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[edit] Order of Members

Is there any kind of order to the list of members, 0.2? It's not chronological or alphabetical, whatever it is. If no one objects soon, and I don't find a rationale in the history, I'll probably do it chronologically. Or maybe alphabetically. But somehow. ;-) -- JohnOwens 00:50 Mar 27, 2003 (UTC)

Obviously, this was fixed long ago... Just placing this note here so no one wastes any time double checking. --(Mingus ah um 01:19, 26 April 2006 (UTC))

RASD¿?¿? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.32.82.253 (talk) 10:59, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Official Language

Could anyone tell me what the official language or languages of the Arab League are? Obviously, one must be Arabic (a specific dialect?), but given the range of mutually unintelligible dialects, I thought English or some other language might also conceivably be used. I didn't get a response from the official website in answer to this question. - Brettz9 00:53 Mar 27, 2003 (UTC)

Arabic is the official language. Every Arab nation has its own slang and accent, but formal arabic is the language used in the meetings. Even if slang arabic is spoken, other arabs will comprehend it easily. -- Mostafa Hussein

Excellent. Thank you. A few things further, however, if you don't mind...Would you know if there is a webpage source I could cite which says that Arabic is the official language (preferably an official website)? Is formal Arabic quite a bit different I assume than classical Arabic? Also, I could swear reading in a linguistics course that although some dialects can be mutually understood (especially by speakers in nearby countries), that the "dialects" (at least when spoken) are so different at the extremes (like maybe between Iraq and Morocco), that they could not be mutually understood. If the latter is the case, I am curious whether the differences are mostly just pronunciation, or whether the grammar, vocabulary, etc. is varied to the degree that the speakers couldn't understand the written language of each other as well. Thanks! - Brettz9 15:39 Mar 27, 2003 (UTC)
OK, ... formal/proper arabic is tied with lots and lots of grammar.Its also very rich in vocabulary. Its used in written documents. It is funny to speak in formal/proper arabic with my friends, but if I am giving a speech, it is the other way round. Well, in algeria and morroco they speak very fast, but if they speak a bit slowly, all arabs can understand them. Almost all dialects are derived from formal arabic. The differences are mostly the accent and a little vocubulary that deals with very intellectualy low stuff, like food, dress and household objects. Casual arabic is just an easy way to speak with others, to avoid lots of grammatical stuff. Illiterates might have a problem comprehending formal/proper arabic.--Mostafa Hussein

Thanks very much for your help...But do you know an official source I could cite which stated that Arabic was, as you say, the only official language? I would like to include this information on a webpage, and it would help to have an official source. Thanks!

Nope, sorry :( --Mostafa Hussein
One website you could use would be the official site of the Arab League, www.arableagueonline.org. Though it doesn't say anywhere that the official language is Arabic, the entire site is in Arabic and there is no other language available for it to be translated into, so that should give you some clue as to the languages used. Audancer1993 18:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: the Iraq-Iran War

Since members are forbidden to attack each other, should we mention the 1980-1988 Iraq-Iran war? Seems to me that Iraq's attack on Iran would be a violation of the Arab League charter. Did any Arab country take note of this? --Uncle Ed

Iran was never in the Arab League; among other things, they are of the hated despicable Persian race and speak Farsi even (OK, I'm exaggerating a little :-) ), so they're not in any sense Arab. Indeed, note in the article a mention of support for Iraq against Iran in 1987. Muslim brotherhood only goes so far I guess. Stan 23:54 Apr 3, 2003 (UTC)
Well, not precisely 100% "they're not in any sense Arab". There is an Arab minority in Iran, concentrated along the Iranian shore of the Persian Gulf - an area at least informally called "Arabistan". PML.
Most interesting! I love Wikipedia... BTW, Iran mentions an Arab minority, but I don't see a ref to the geographic concentration... Stan 01:55 Apr 4, 2003 (UTC)

Whether Iran is or isnt Arabic is a very contentious issue, but they aren't part of the Arab League. Dietary Fiber

No, it's not a contentious issue at all lol. Iran is as Arab as Ireland is Slavic. The Arab pop in Iran is probably smaller than in France, a country about the same size. Note that Arabs often refer to the Persian Gulf as the Arab Gulf. It's also got the highest percentage of Shia Muslims in the world which further sets it apart. Marskell 16:33, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
Oh, so it's all right then: they're only Muslims and therefore not brothers. --Uncle Ed
Are you implying something? --Dejitarob 23:10, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Voting Confusion

Does anyone know how it is that, if there are 22 countries that have ever been members, and Libya withdrew in October 2002, there was a 21-1 vote in March 2003? Did Libya not withdraw immediately but after a period of time (at least 6 months) from the announcement, or did they rejoin, or what? -- John Owens 00:34 Apr 4, 2003 (UTC)

Yes, it seems like this could use some updating. Does anyone knwo the actual status of Libya as it stands? If they rejoined, why? And shouldn't that be added to the timeline? —thames 18:32, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Amr Moussa is working hard to change the voting system from unanimous to majority. I will keep my eye on that and tell you(or edit the article). Eventually, this might improve the current role of the league.-- Mostafa Hussein

[edit] Re: the Political Nature of the Arab League

Is the following a Wikipedian opinion, or an advocate's opinion, or what?

It is similar to the Organization of American States, the Council of Europe or the former Organization for African Unity, in that its aims are primarily political; all of these organizations can be considered to be regional versions of the United Nations [emphasis added by Ed Poor]

What is a "regional version of the United Nations" supposed to mean? Is it intended to suggest (a) that the UN is neutral and objective; and thus (b) that the Arab League is neutral and objective?

My assumption is that the League of Arab Nations exists SOLELY to advance Arab interests, and probably at the expense of other countries like Israel. --Uncle Ed 14:30, 26 Aug 2003 (UTC)

And why would the Arab states form an organization to advance the cause of someone else? Did any organization ever? Was the OAS formed to benefit the bushmen in Africa, or the EU to help Zimbabwi? Even the UN was formed to further the interests of the 5 permanent Security Council members. As for Israel, it is not the Arabs fault that Zionists choose, freely, to colonize an Arab land and turn the area into hell for its natives.A.Khalil 03:10, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)
And by the way, it is "The League of Arab States" and not the "League of Arab Nations."A.Khalil 19:40, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC)

Maybe a mention should be made of the rather 'tumulteous' atmosphere of some Arab League meetings? For instance, the one before the second Gulf war [1]

For your information A.Khalil, you are just thinking like most mainstream Arabs, brainwashed by the media. The Jews (Zionist is a derogatory term) did not colonise any Arab land. The British Mandate of Palestine was divided into two by the British, not colonised. Many other previous colonies were also divided in various ways. As the current rulers of the land after the Ottoman Empire collapsed, the British have the right to give the land to whoever they want. Get that right please, and don't be racist towards Jews. "Giving them hell" is your opinion and is not a fact. For your information, it was members Arab League who incited the war (and therefore, the tension) immediately after the creation of Israel, and not the other way round. Arab leaders at that time were racist and didn't want a new race of people in the area. Please get your facts right and do not be so obviously racist, A.Khalil. --Terrancommander 12:58, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[offtopic] So it's Ok for a colonial power to do with the captured land what they want? When the Otteman Empire collapsed more than 90% of the population was Palestinian. --Ramy "Giving them hell" is a fact and you can go to Gaza or west Bank and test it yourself...

I think the only thing racist is that terracommander seems to think that the UK has the right to devide lands that aren't theres in the first place. You seem to be very protective about Jews but what about the Arab's rights. It was an Arab land before the British tought they could give away a piece of land to the Jews as a gift for all the suffering they had been trough. So why didn't they give them a piece of Germany? They occupied that too, didn't they? Arabs can't be held responsible for what happened in WWII. So maybe you shouldn't sound so obviously racist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.244.192.78 (talk) 05:31, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

ZIONIST is not a derogatory term for Jew. It CAN be used as such, but no matter WHAT your view on the Israel/Palestine issue, Zionism is still a contemporary political movement, not a slur for all things Jewish. Jews can call themselves "Zionist" or "Anti-Zionist". I am Jewish and I have friends who I would describe as both. Terrancommander, if you're a Jew, you're letting your political sympathies get the best of your ability to discuss rationally an admittedly intense issue, and if you're NOT Jewish, I would say that you need to talk to some more Jews before you decide what is and isn't inherent to our culture/religion/etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.147.0.30 (talk) 09:15, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Libya

I don't understand why on the map, Lybia is not considered as an arab country? 500LL 22:05, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I think the issue is if Libya, as a state, is a current member of the Arab League of not. As a nation they are Arabs.

For the last time people. Libya is an arab nation. Twice it has threatened to leave the Arab League in protest. The first time it made the announcement on the 24th of October 2002 and it would have been effective one year later (i.e. the 24th of October 2003) but this decision was cancelled on the 16th of January 2003. The second time Libya threatened with withdrawl was on the 3rd of April 2003, but again was cancelled. This time it was cancelled on the 25th of May again before the one year deadline. Got that good.

[edit] Current Member States

According to the official web site [2] these are the current members: About the Arab League >> Member States • The Hashemite Kingdom Of Jordan • United Arab Emirates • Kingdom Of Bahrain • Republic Of Tunisia • Democratic And Popular Republic Of Algeria • Republic Of Djibouti • Kingdom Of Saudi Arabia • Rebuplic Of Sudan • Arab Rebuplic Of Syria • Republic Of Somalia We currently include (I've asterisked the countries that match):

  • Algeria | *Bahrain | Comoros | *Djibouti | Egypt | Iraq | *Jordan | Kuwait | Lebanon | Libya | Mauritania | Morocco | Oman | State of Palestine | Qatar | *Saudi Arabia | *Somalia | *Sudan | *Syria | *Tunisia | *United Arab Emirates | Yemen

Thoughts? May 5, 2005

Take a look again and notice the "Next" button in the lower-right corner. The countries all match. --rob 20:09, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Timeline

I think the timeline should be improved, to drop some lessor points, and add bigger ones. For instance, in 1967 it mentions South Yemen joining (already stated in article), but says nothing of what the League did regarding the war. Without turning this into a "conflict timeline", I think some improvements could be made, by those familiar with the role of the League in the different wars. --rob 20:05, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Uncle "Kraker" Ed

To the lazy editors of this Page.

WHY IS THIS RACIST BEING ALLOWED TO SPEW HIS HATRED ON THIS WEBSIT. IS THIS AN OFFICIAL WEBSITE FOR ARAB BASHING AND MUSLIM HATERS IF SO THEN RENAME IT ACCORDINGLY. IF NOT THEN THIS IDIOT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO FURTHER HIS DISGUSTING POLITICAL AGENDA HERE. THIS WEBSITE IS MENT FOR LEARNING, UNBIASED AND FREE OF PERSONAL HATREDS.

You have broken Wikipedia's no personal attack policy here. Please sign your comments too, or no one will take note of them. --Terrancommander 14:45, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

will arabs and persians never become friends ? (officially, no taazi and ajami shit)

I highly dout it.Cameron Nedland 04:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Western Sahara

I removed the recently added mention of Western Sahara state as it is very NPOV at best. 1) The issue is very disputed, and 2) this AL's page definitely isn't the place to talk about this dispute anyway.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.55.91.188 (talk • contribs) 14:19, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Western Sahara has been added to the map as a blue "disputed area." --Kralizec! (talk) 04:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Somalia

Can anybody explain why and how Somalia is a member of the Arab League? I can away from the article sadly unelightened. --Quintucket 23:33, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

From Somalia Demographics and languages: "As early as the seventh century, indigenous Cushitic peoples began to mingle with Arab and Persian traders who had settled along the coast. Interaction over the centuries led to the emergence of a Somali culture bound by common traditions, a single language, and the Islamic faith." In other words, Quintucket, Somalians are viewed in much the same way as North Africans; they may not be entirely Arab, but they have been assimilated into the greater Arab nation. --(Mingus ah um 20:15, 28 April 2006 (UTC))

The question is a good one, since the Somali people are not predominantly Arab in ancestry and still speak non-Semitic languages, and is one best posed to the Somalis themselves. I've wondered this myself. This may be a matter of cultural identification, because Somalia's African neighbors are not as heavily Muslim.---Heff01 04:59, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

The main reason Somalia is part of the Arab League is because during the Barre regime, he had close allies to Arabia and the rest of the Arab World. To build on that, he applied to join as Somalis share the same religion as the Arabs, some culture similarities, Arabic as a second language of Somalia and a script for the Somali language, and Somalia's strategic location. FAH1223 02:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

To add to that, East Africans on a whole are from Arabia and are MORE Arabia thant those peopleS called arabs in North Africa r even SW Asia. Just look at Haile Salasee.



WHEN YOU ARE ENTERING ETHIOPIA YOU HAVE TO PASS EITHER SOMALIA OR ERITREA SPECIALY SOMALIA IS THE EASIEST WAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GEOGRAPHY OF ARABIA SO THEY HAVE BEEN THERE BEFORE ISLAM. ANY WAY I AM STUDENT OF GENETIC STUDIES AND NEXT YEAR I WILL GO TO AMERICA FOR SIMINAR OF GENATIC DISEASES AND PHARMOCOTHERAPY.I AM QUITE SURE THE Y CHROMOSOM OR SOMALI MALE IS SAME AS THE Y CHROMOSOM OF ARABS.OTHERWISE MAKE RESEARCH OF GOOGLE IN GENETIC SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SOMALI MALE AND ARAB MALE

That' what I heard about the Y chromosome of somali males being the same as the Y chromosome of arabs, you could look it up on google ppl and find varies sites saying the same thing, it has being proven before so theirs no point in denying it.

"Only 15% of Somali Y-chromosomes are of Eurasian origin, and only part of that belongs to haplogroup J*(xJ1) which is a signature of Arab intrusions. "Hisham —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.138.100.207 (talk) 05:06, 16 December 2007 (UTC)


With regards to Hisham's comment "Just look at Haile Salasee", I hope Hisham is basing those classifications and groupings on something other than limited observations. African people have the most diverse genetic make-up on the planet. Why is this? Outside of recent genetic studies:

MSNBC article by By Maggie Fox, "Gene studies confirm ‘out of Africa’ theories"

If we are to believe Africa is the cradle of man as some proclaim, then other distinct ethnic groups around the world are adaptations of other African groups. So Salasee doesn't look like anything except African. And his features are not foreign to me or other Africans. Certainly East Africans have lighter features than others. And certainly there has been trade and ethnic mixing with Arabs. However, someone wouldn't claim African-Americans as European because of ethnic mixing with other Non-African ethnic groups. Likewise in this case.

Spencer leon (talk) 05:40, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Court?

In reviewing (briefly) various Islamic and Arab intergovernmental organizations, I've noticed an absence of judicial organs. Neither the OIC, the Arab League or the Gulf Cooperation Council seem to possess a sitting body to mediate or adjudicate disputes among member governments. Is this reflective of some aspect of Arab or Islamic culture? Tfleming 18:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


... well my dear friend, it is because Arabs never fight, and never have problems.... umm... no thats not it, oh, ok, the Arab League actually has a security council that discusses tensions, and inner Arab problems, and im working on it in the Life in the Arab League project, but its moving slowly because im having my midterms...

--Arab League User 19:55, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eritrea

Is Eritrea still part of the Arab league?

It was never a part of the Arab league, but it has been an observer since 2003, I believe. — ዮም (Yom) | contribs • Talk 22:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Facts

I dont think the per Capita GDP of the Arab League is 28,100 dollars. This is simply not possible. Germany's GDP for example is 2.504 trillion dollars and its population only 82 million and its per capita is 30 thousand dollars. So how an area with a LOWER GDP and 300 million people have roughly the same per capita? This would put the League on par with the EU which is illogical as the Arab League is dominated by developing and lower-income states. Simply Divide the total GDP by the population anf you get 4 thousand dollars which sounds more reasonable, so Im changing it, it must have been a typo or something. --Doge120 15:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

well... Doge, im not sure if the figure 28,100 $ is accurate, and i also doubt the german figure too, but the average Arab GDP is around 16 to 14 thousand $, you must not forget that around 40% of the Arab population live in rich oil producing countries like Saudi Arabia, Libya, Algeria, Kuwait, and UAE, and also there are non-oil producing rich arab countries like Jordan and Lebanon, and Tunisia...

--Arab League User 19:59, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Map of the Arab League

I recently noticed that Israel is included as part of the Arab League. I can understand it being included as the Arab League likely considers it part of Palestine, but i'd imagine that Israelis would not consider themselves a part of it for obvious reasons. I dont have any sort of axe to grind, but i think that the map should either be changed to reflect Israel not being a part of the Arab League, or Israel highlighted in a different colour to denote it as disputed.

Xeolyte 22:17, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Israel was likely not intended to be depicted as an Arab League Member, but it is small enough to begin with and very narrow to boot that it blends in imperceptibly into the included map, which is a small map of a quite extensive area. The best solution would be to use a map large enough to distinctly show Israel as present and a non-member.---Heff01 04:59, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Along with Western Sahara, Israel has been added to the map as a blue "disputed area." --Kralizec! (talk) 04:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eritrea on Map

As Eritrea is an observer shouldnt it be included on the Maps ? Not in solid green of course but maybe striped/hatched ?Xerex 13:40, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

In the new map, I noted member nations as green, and observer nations are light green. --Kralizec! (talk) 04:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arab League Flag

Does anyone knows whats its written on the flag?--201.52.207.180 02:00, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Yup, it says league of Arab states (جامعة الدول العربية‎ - Jama`at-u-d-Dawlaat-i-l-`Arabiyyah).[3] — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 03:54, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Somalia, once again

Somalia is still part of the Arab League. When did it go into observer status?

The people aren't Arab, but the membership has been there since 1974 and that membership still stands with the Transitional Government still representing it to this day. The new map needs to be changed, until then, this one stands. FAH1223 01:53, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

The map has been updated and zoomed in on the region to better show the individual countries. Thank you to you and 66.250.190.114 (talk · contribs) for catching and correcting the fact that Somalia is a full member and no longer and observer state. --Kralizec! (talk) 13:55, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] India

When did India become an Arab state? I find this very strange especially that there is no mention of this in the official website of the Arab League. --Maha Odeh 07:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

The article does not say that India is a member of the Arab League. --Kralizec! (talk) 11:15, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Neighter an observer !! , i'll post the {{Fact}} template. Ammar (Talk - Don't Talk) 16:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

India is not arab country —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.138.159.136 (talk • contribs) 11:46, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Who said it is? --Kralizec! (talk) 18:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

India is not Member of Arab League —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.138.224.79 (talk • contribs) 15:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

  • India is not Member of Arab League —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.138.224.79 (talk) 15:45, 17 July 2007
Who said it is a member? I believe the article states that India has been an "observer since 2007." --Kralizec! (talk) 22:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup of History section

I cleaned up the History section to remove errors in punctuation, capitalisation, spelling, etc. I think I succeeded in doing this without changing the meaning, but somebody should read it to make certain. EmmetCaulfield 15:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

The History section is quite problematic, it incorrectly asserts that Arab nationalism began by British imperial intervention, primarily after WWI. Modern Arab nationalism more accurately dates to the late 19th century and the intellectual movement known as the Nahda, or Arab renaissance, and not to British manipulation, intervention, or colonialism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.230.136.145 (talk) 19:56, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Largest cities

why Riyadh is not included although it is 1,554 km² (600 sq mi) this mean it is bigger then Baghdad who is 204.2 km² (78.8 sq mi) and bigger then Cairo who is 214 km² (82.6 sq mi) and Damascus 573 km² (221.2 sq mi) and i did not find the area of Alexandria or Khartoum but i think Riyadh is also bigger then them so why it isn't in the largest cities Arabian soul 22:05, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

It means in population, not area. Zazaban 02:08, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Zazaban, i would really like to know where you got your information from, because according to your Information, Riyadh city is thrice the size of the Entire Kingdom of Bahrain..

and as for Cairo's Size, i recall that it was around 400 km² a few years ago, i doubt it has Shrunk..

Arab League User (talk) 13:07, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I doubt all these numbers are accurate - or they may be refering to different things. I've been extensively to both Baghdad and Damascus and I can say for sure that Baghdad is at least two to 3 times as big as Damascus, yet the numbers say something else. There is defintely something wrong.

--Maha Odeh (talk) 10:32, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ...New Map...

The first map of the Arab League in the World, with Observers, and possible Members... i was thinking of changing it to a normal Arab League's location in the World, then another map showing observers and possible members in the Enlargement Section...

ill be changing it within a week if no one has problems with it... thank you..

Arab League User (talk) 13:11, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Two comments:
Kralizec! (talk) 19:28, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
On April 20, 85.48.33.205 (talk · contribs) changed [4] the primary map listed in this article from Image:AL.GIF to Image:Map of League of Arab States countries.png. On April 7, Arab League (talk · contribs) changed the map back [5] to the one he created, Image:AL.GIF. However as that map does not address either of the issues previously raised above, and as Image:Map of League of Arab States countries.png clearly and legibly shows the individual countries in the League, I have reverted it back. --Kralizec! (talk) 13:11, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

ummm Krazlizec, with all due respect, but you can decide and put regulations and Issues and standards for a map upload... any map can be included in Wikipedia, as for the watermark, it credites the efforts of the creater of the map, nothing more..

back to the point, the map you prefer to include shows the arab league in North Africa, rather then the organization's world location.

also your kind of map is only used for the Arb League, while all other regional organizations, such as the EU, ASEAN, AU, etc... show the location of the region in the world, rather then in a slightly bigger regional map... --Arab League User (talk) 21:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Your statement "all other regional organizations...show the location of the region in the world, rather then in a slightly bigger regional map" is incorrect as both the Organization of American States, Rio Group, Commonwealth of Independent States, and several dozen others under Cat:International organizations all show regional rather than world maps. Regardless, Wikipedia's official Image use policy clearly states that images should not be watermarked. --Kralizec! (talk) 22:48, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

the Organization of American States doesnt show a Map in its primary template, and the Rio Group, isnt as significant as the Arab League, as for the CIS, it needs to be changed, the Arab League, which is a significant Organization in the region, like the AU, ASEAN, EU, etc... and other major regional international organizations should be shown its location in the World, rather then in a region, even the organizations mentioned by you above...

other similar maps of your desire are shown later on in the Article, including the demographics, provinicial, linguistic enlargement maps, which i agree with you dont need to show the region's location in the world, since it will simply be irrelivent, but in the primary infobox, i find it a neccessity to show the organization's location within the world..

as for the watermark, Wikipedia allows a water mark under certain licsening. but i dont mind removing the Watermark, i mean, it not like ill sue Wikipedia, anyways if it is found uncomfortable i dont mind. And rasd?¿?

--Arab League User (talk) 10:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ethiopia - Axum

The Geography section listed Axum as being within the modern borders of the Arab League Members. This is incorrect. Ethiopia is not a member. And Axum is within the borders of modern & ancient Ethiopia. In fact, Ancient Ethiopia's terrority extended farther north and west.

Please reference existing WikiPedia entry for Axum to maintain consistency.

Spencer leon (talk) 18:55, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

a great part of Aksum Kingdom was in Sudan, and it sometimes reached Djibouti, South Yemen and Jizan in KSA...

--Arab League User (talk) 22:56, 17 May 2008 (UTC)