Talk:Apology (Plato)

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[edit] NPOV?

The language in this article needs a lot of cleaning up. Statements like "Socrates proves to be a master rhetor who is not only eloquent and persuasive, but who plays the jury like an impresario" just shouldn't fly. 128.239.47.74 (talk) 13:59, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Renaming proposal details

More can be found at Category_talk:Dialogues_of_Plato, but essentially the gist of my proposal with regards to the topic is that this page should be renamed Apology and then have an Otheruses-type template at the top linking to Apology (disambiguation), which has already been created. I believe that the philosophical/historical work by Plato is the most prominent of the disambiguations, and should be placed at Apology, as well as receiving the redirects from variants such as Apologia and The Apology.

Comments welcomed. --Girolamo Savonarola 03:27, 2005 May 16 (UTC)

The problem I see with this proposal is that Apology is not specific enough to Plato. Apology should be a disambiguation itself. Whig 08:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
I agree. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 13:48, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. violet/riga (t) 14:31, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] bullet

Does anyone else have a problem with this entire article being written in bullet form? User: ThomistGuy

Yes — it's ugly and unencyclopædic. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 19:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Major edits finished; more to come.

Okay, I just made a lot of edits. I may have deleted more than some would prefer. If anyone feels I went overboard, feel free to replace the missing paragraphs. Most importantly, I got rid of those festering bullet points! It was like reading bad class notes before!

[edit] Requested move

Please debate this move on Category talk:Dialogues of Plato in its full context. Thank you. --Girolamo Savonarola 21:21, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sophists

The word «σοφστής» had a variety of meanings, but its original meaning was certainly "wise man" (the Seven Sages were called «σοφσταί»). In the context of Athens the word was used to refer to what would in mediæval Europe be known as professors; although they fell into disrepute, they were originally highly regarded — the term «σοφστής» was tarnished with their reputations. At the time of Socrates I think that it's fair to say that «σοφστής» meant "wise man", but that its use as applied to the sophists was tinged with more than a little sarcasm. (I mistyped "wise man" originally, and nearly left in the mistake; "wide man" would have had a certain accuracy...) --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:56, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jury vote?

I remember hearing from my philosphy proffesor that more voted for the death penalty than for guilty but what was the actually vote count for death?

September 17, 2006

[edit] Information about Apology

Hey guys. I came here looking for information because of citations in an essay for school. And the particular information I wanted was missing. It could be that no one knows, but here are some ideas for the article. Maybe a circa date of the writing of the story. Also maybe a place for the writing? Just some ideas for the article. Other than that it looks good! Deflagro C/T 19:33, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, although I don't believe either of those pieces of information are known more accurately than "sometime between Socrates' death and Plato's" and "somewhere in the Eastern Mediterranean." RJC Talk 20:11, 21 January 2008 (UTC)