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[edit] old talk

That article I added said that the tapes were found: "Recently, NASA managers scrambled to respond to reports that the agency had lost the original tapes of the historic 1969 moon landing, when Neil Armstrong set foot on the lunar surface. The tapes eventually were found." Is the article wrong? Bubba73 (talk), 04:38, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

The latest article added has some innacuracies. That the tapes were lost was something acknowledged by NASA itself, this is not an urban myth. On the other hand this new reference just confirms that that NASA is still looking and hopes the tapes will have the info they are looking for.(NASA hopes archives have map to moon)--tequendamia 04:44, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
The fourth paragraph from the end of the article in the link says that the tapes were found. Is that wrong? Bubba73 (talk), 04:47, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Somebody can email John Sarkissian and find out.--tequendamia 04:51, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
I emailed him and the author of the article. The author of the article says that it was some other tapes that were found, and he got confused. So it wasn't the missing SSTV tapes. Bubba73 (talk), 14:38, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
There you are! There is always people in the media who are confused about things or who are trying to confuse everyone.--tequendamia 00:53, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
A new pair of eyes (mine) was also misled by the referenced article. A close reading reveals that the tapes found in Perth are not thought to contain the slow scan video. So, to avoid misleading more Wiki readers, I clarified the description of the discovery. 75.100.81.4 jmatxx 18:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
It is still not clear to me. The article talks about EASEP data. The slow-scan TV signal was recorded on the same tapes as the telemetry from the lunar module. If these tapes are EASEP data only, then they probably don't have the TV. If they also contain telemetry from the LM then they should contain the TV. So I hope we know soon. Bubba73 (talk), 20:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Apollo Moon Landing hoax accusations#Missing_data also talks about this. I just updated it over there. Bubba73 (talk), 21:11, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Any news on this? It seems like NASA is getting away with it. Did they close Goddard? Have the tapes turned up? Is anyone still looking? Gravitor 21:17, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
The silence is deafening. Some things you don't want to know, eh? Gravitor 19:50, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Confusing. Be clear as to which tapes are missing.

I found this article to be a bit confusing (yes I know that it is still not much more than a stub). In essesnce, there are probably millions of "data tapes" related to the Apollo missions, and it is not clear if this refers to all of them, or just the Apollo 11 footage. I think that it would be best to give each type of tape its own section.

As an example of why this should be better categorized, consider the following story: I was involved with re-analyzing some data that was obtained from an experiment on one of the Apollo CSMs. However, back in those days, the archiving requirements were not the same as they are today (there was no PDS). Now, with this experiment, the PI lost over the years about 10% of the tapes containing data from this experiment. There is also about two years of data from the ALSEP experiment that was never archived. Should these example be in this article? I say NO, because they are non-notable. Lunokhod 10:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

This article should reflect the best knowledge available about the disposition of all the tapes. It's very unclear right now which ones are missing, and what the standards for retention even are. It's interesting that you seem to portray 10% loss as normal - it would be fascinating to know if that standard of care was normal across the whole program. Gravitor 16:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone know what is happening with the tapes? The machines? Gravitor 04:04, 13 February 2007 (UTC)