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[edit] ScubaVenture

I removed this as it's not an Apogee game. George Broussard did write the game while in the employ of Apogee, but it was never intended to be an Apogee title. It was written and published by Softdisk. The reason for this was that they'd let id Software out of their contract with them so they could do games for Apogee instead.

I should know, I work here at Apogee - this is Joe Siegler, webmaster for the company.  :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dopefish (talk • contribs) 9 February 2006.

[edit] Grammer

Sorry Teklund for my wording, i'm dyslexic and tend to write very convolutedly, however I did include new information with my contribution such as;

  • Emphaisisng Apogee's role in the wide spread adoption of Shareware.
  • The small list of large publishers that quickly adopted the model and for the most part utitlised the same BBS.
  • Inclusion of Software Creations BBS, a staple of Apogee for many years, and the primary method of distrubution used by many people in the day (before Shareware CD's).
  • I also wanted to remove the term "Spin-off" when describing Apogees two subsidiaries, 3D Realmas and Pinball Wizard.... it was rather unencyclopedic.
  • Include an introduction that says immediately what they are known for popularising Shareware, Wolf3D, Keen, Nukem and a quick note they operate as 3D Realms.

Now I have spent about 2 hours going over my new new alterations to make it seem less convoluted. Your welcome to revert my alterations as long as you include the above 5 points yourself. Oh btw, as for my headings, Shareware and Background, you can remove them if you want.. I just felt that their was two logical sections that may at a later date be expanded. But, by all means remove them, just keep the facts.

Thanks, im flexible though, if you dont like any/all of my 5 points we can discuss it :). - UnlimitedAccess 9 July 2005 15:20 (UTC)

Sorry for being ignorant. The article is much clearer now with the addition of headings and a better introduction, and I agree with all five of your points above. I did remove id Software from the list of shareware distibutors similar to Apogee since as far as I know they distributed most of their games via Apogee... but I don't know much about that, so I might as well be wrong. So if I'm wrong, you may want to put that back in. Teklund 9 July 2005 18:10 (UTC)
Nice work their! About the id/Apogee thing their earlier stuff like Wolf3D was released as an Apogee title, but their later titles like Doom were released under the id software name.. I will stick it back in, and see how it goes. Thanks again. - UnlimitedAccess 9 July 2005 18:19 (UTC)

[edit] Quiz games

Are The Computer Quiz, The Astronomy Quiz and The IBM BASIC Quiz also Apogee games? Or are those Softdisk games / Scott Miller games? 81.70.123.72 11:41, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

MobyGames says they are all Softdisk games. [1][2][3] — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:39, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Mobygames is wrong. What a shock. Star Trek Trivia was an Apogee game. Star Trek: TNG Trivia was originally a Micro/FX game (George's company before Apogee), and when he joined Apogee, it became an Apogee game, and then Paramount stepped in and stopped both. Dopefish 16:30, 15 August 2006 (UTC) (Joe Siegler, Apogee/3DR).

I'm talking about The Computer Quiz, The Astronomy Quiz and the IBM BASIC Quiz, not the Star Trek trivia games. 81.70.123.72 10:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, as I said, MobyGames, the best reference I have, say they are all SoftDisk games. If it is wrong, so be it. You can also try Home of the Underdogs if you like. — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
OK, I'm a doofus. You did say the pre-Apogee stuff. Dopefish 01:44, 18 August 2006 (UTC)  :)

[edit] Vandals

Bleh, sorry for the vandalism earlier. I'm kind of the caretaker of the dorm IP address and some people think it's funny to edit entries for fun and get everyone banned from contributing. Shadowrun 05:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge Apogee Software into this page

Why do we need two different pages for the same company just because they changed their name? The Apogee Software page should be merged into this one as soon as possible. -- Grandpafootsoldier 02:15, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Fully agreed. The current state is very confusing. --seifip 14:17, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok, merged. Sega381 16:14, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree with the merge but it is a little more compelx because Apogee Software is the parent company which owns the labels, Pinball Wizard, 3D Realms and perhaps others. 3D Realms just became the dominant label and all others fell away including the parent company's brand Appogee. - UnlimitedAccess 22:48, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I've been thinking about it, and though the merge is ok, probably the article should be called Apogee Software, as it is the real company name still, even though it may be known by other names...Sega381 00:12, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Technically the on paper name of our company is Apogee Software, Ltd. 3D Realms is a dba, as is Pinball Wizards, although we "use" the name 3D Realms, despite it not being the actual legal name of the company. (Joe Siegler from 3DR) Dopefish 16:09, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

So which is the "proper" name for the company then (and the correct name for this page)? As you are probably the only Apogee/3D Realms employee on here you would naturally be the best person to make such a decision. ;) -- Grandpafootsoldier 08:44, 30 June 2007 (UTC)