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Contents 1 Wikipedia Reference 2 Bull vs. Cow 3 Casablanca Reference 4 Two-time running gag 5 Music

[edit] Wikipedia Reference

I remember the following from last night's episode about Wikipedia about 6 minutes into the episode (from when my DVR started recording, so it might be not be synced properly):

Bart: "But Wikipedia said he was passionate about rehearsal!"

Homer: "Don't you worry about Wikipedia. We'll change it when we get home. We'll change a lot of things."

Wouldn't this be noteworthy on the article? - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ contribs} 13:10, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

No, it's not noteworthy. We had the same problem in Funeral for a Fiend when Wikipedia is mentioned. Just because this is Wikipedia doesn't mean we need to mention every time they say it on The Simpsons or any other show, unless it is a main plot detail, which it isn't. Ctjf83Talk 17:08, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Not even on the "Cultural References" section? I think Wiki's a culture... wouldn't you think? ;) *nudge nudge* - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ contribs} 17:31, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't really have any opinions on Wiki anymore, so add it if you want, other people, who I won't name, will probably delete though, so do what you want! Ctjf83Talk 17:37, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

• Actually, this episode is different than those episodes, as the wikipedia reference is longer and more detailed (I think I remember it was part of another conversation Bart and Homer had). I would allow the reference to be included because it's not just a mention like to other two. Rhino131 (talk) 23:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

(ec) Don't be dramatic Ctjf83 :) I personally don't think we should reference every cultural reference, because if we mention everything that was mentioned it'll turn into a long unsourced list. I think we should keep it at parodies, though the Rocky and Wikipedia things are kind of borderline. If you want to add it, meh. The Dominator^Talk_Edits 23:08, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

• Of course it should be mentioned, it is fun curiosity! Since when does Wikipedia have rules against mentioning too many things? What matters is mentioning them the right way. The first thing I did after seeing the episode was to check Wikipedia to see if it was mentioned - which it was, to my delight! Now, a couple of days later, I check in again only to find out that someone removed it. Personally, I think removing references just because they are connected to Wikipedia is a very boring attitude. I'm quite confident I'm not the only one checking for that reference right after seeing the episode. SBIT (talk) 18:25, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

  The rules for Wikipedia mentioning too many thing is here and this and this and even this apply. The Dominator^Talk_Edits 18:28, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

  To be honest, I think none of those guidelines apply here. I don't see anything in WP:NOT applying here and the reference should of course be properly sourced (eliminating WP:V and WP:RS) and as goes for notability - I suggest you read WP:NNC. SBIT (talk) 18:41, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

  I think that WP:TRIVIA applies the most here. Although, the Wikipedia reference was somewhat prominent and I would include it. It doesn't even need a {{fact}} tag because it was actually said in the article. The Dominator^Talk_Edits 19:48, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bull vs. Cow

Why one earth are they calling a bull a cow throughout this episode? How come that no one has said anything about this? This is just terrible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.177.46.34 (talk) 20:11, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

• I think it just looked like a bull. Rhino131 (talk) 00:10, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Lou was definitely a bull. Mary tells Bart, "You do realize that's a boy, right?", to which Bart responds, "Oh, I thought she was just peeing out her nipple". Seansinc (talk) 03:12, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Agreed a bull, but is it a notable enough error to include in the article? Possibly a passing mention in the plot summary? The Dominator^Talk_Edits 03:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Error and error... I think they call it a cow for the sake of the episode name. It just wouldn't work with bull. Don't call it an error unless you can find a source where the creators confirm that it was an error. SBIT (talk) 18:29, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Casablanca Reference

I think that the scene where Lou get's on the plane is clearly a reference to the scene in Casablanca, where Ilsa get's on the plane. The words in Casablanca are: "If that plane leaves the ground and you're not with him, you'll regret it. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life." In this simpsons episode, Bart says: "Lou; if that plane leaves the ground and you're not on it, you'll regret it. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow, but soon, and defenitely after they kill you." And when Lou actually get's on the plane, Bart says: "Here's looking at you, cud!" which is obviously a reference to the famous line "Here's looking at you, kid." from Casablanca. A different reference to the same scene was already in the episode Natural Born Kissers, by the way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.56.88.107 (talk) 12:55, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

This was included in the article, it might have been accidentally removed. Please add new sections to the bottom in the future (just click the new section tab at the top) and sign your posts by typing ~~~~ which will automatically convert into a signature. The Dominator^Talk_Edits 14:28, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

They also play La Marseillaise (the French National Anthem), maybe it is another reference --24.116.241.14 (talk) 04:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I added it to the cultural references section although it's clumsily phrased at best. Cat-five - talk 03:27, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Two-time running gag

It seems there are two instances where the name of a certain voice actress is mentioned: 1)Bart finds the CD "Anguished Animal Noises" by Tress MacNeille (like Frank Welker, seems she can also do animal noises) in the radio under his bed, and 2)while Homer is in the slaughter house, he hears a mechanized woman's voice and merrily says, "Hey, that sounded like Tress MacNeille." You don't suppose this episode pokes fun at the fact that Tress is the most common voice actress heard compared to the other voice actresses for the show, do you? --Secret C (talk) 15:07, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Music

The score for this episode is written in the style of Aaron Copland, best known for Appalachian Spring and Hoedown. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.180.254.11 (talk) 12:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)