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There's simply too many, or at least too many in one area. They're even crowding out the headings (though even if they didn't, it's annoying to have half a screen taken up purely by images). Can we at least cut one off? Preferrably a couple, as multiple blurry images of the same thing don't really add anything. 24.76.169.85 (talk) 07:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Y Done - I've made the images smaller (290 to 150px) and forced them over to right side to avoid interupting the text headings.[1] David Ruben Talk 12:03, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Don't think it should be added

I was going to replace the following, but after a bit of research there doesn't seem to be much use of the compound - there's only the one study on pubmed, wikipedia doesn't have an article, and the pubmed abstract is 10 years old with no follow-up. Ergo, I don't think there's much point. WLU (talk) 17:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Some dentists precribe the drug for recurrent aphthous ulcers. Debacterol is a liquid mixture of sulfonated phenolic compounds and sulfuric acid that work as a topical debriding agent that forms a natural barrier over the ulcer site.Rhodus NL, Bereuter J (December 1998). "An evaluation of a chemical cautery agent and an anti-inflammatory ointment for the treatment of recurrent aphthous stomatitis: a pilot study". Quintessence Int 29 (12): 769–73. PMID 10196853. 

[edit] Treatment section tidyup

<copied over from User talk:Davidruben> I ended up re-writing the treatment section, thus, which deleted your reference to UK treatment options. I basically removed everything that didn't have a source, unfortunately that included the text you inserted here. My WP:PROVEIT approach tends to be a bit scorched earth, I think most of the information is still there in a more general form. I'll be adding a bit of text back, but after that edit I think I'm done; feel free to re-insert. I ended up with an edit conflict and over-wrote (worst collaborator ever!), I don't know if you prefer my more generic version, or your more specific one. Please feel free to expand if you'd like. WLU (talk) 17:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm done, earth is scorched, feel free to replace. WLU (talk) 17:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
No problem, I approve of the tidyup :-) I had only reinserted topical soothing agents, which in turn had been a past sort-out of multiple brand-name articles which I converted into redirects. So see 11 March 2008 overall work on article and then 17 March 2008 as the brand name articles made into redirects.
I've reordered your well sourced material to give a step up through treatments (vs tetracyclines being mentioned near the top). Your WP:PROVEIT approach spurred me to try and find links for the OTC management of oral ulcers, which forms by far the greatest treatment of this common condition, albeit out of the oversight of us doctors and with very little formal supportive evidence ("lack of evidence of effectiveness" of course not being "evidence of lack of effect"), still I managed to come up with some official and well respected UK links (as well as NEJM) refs to confirm usage.
Let me know what you think :-) David Ruben Talk 03:19, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Looks good, I re-wrote it some more and tried to chunk the information a bit as well as adding some more involved references on the evidence for some OTC stuff. One thing I did change was to remove the brand names of medications - if the sources name them that's OK, but they're not going to be useful world-wide. In my mind the active ingredient is the important information (plus I dislike putting up brand names if I can avoid it because of a generational knee-jerk anti-corporate sentiment). Is the weasel word tag still needed? I haven't read through from top to bottom.
I love PROVEIT for it's ability to kick-start sourcing and expansion : ) Also a great shortcut title. WLU (talk) 15:02, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Vast improvement in structure and clarity of description - well done - I must remember to consider asking you to review some of my future convoluted article edits :-). David Ruben Talk 19:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Not a problem, I like copy-editing when I've got the time but finding the time is difficult these days. --WLU (talk) 19:41, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Stress and fatigue not proven as causes of outbreaks

Doctors use these 'causes' whenever they can't find a cure. They make the same unproven claims for herpes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.193.144.79 (talk) 18:44, 3 June 2008 (UTC)