Talk:Apache Wars

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Frederick W. Turner III in his introduction to "Geronimo" says "Let us be blunt. Let us say with respect to the wars...we are dealing with an irreconcilable conflict between an aggressive, war-minded colonizing group which could not tolerate differences and divergences from its rule and an aggressive and war-minded group of people for whom the raid was the most important and ligitimate of tribal enterprises and for whom the war of vengeance was the inevitable consequence of the raid. Only when we understand the natures of the opposing cultures can we begin to ask what it might mean that one destroyed the other."--Rcollman 16:15, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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These are notes to myself (chris collman). The Apache page has a better history outline (conflict #4 section) and explains that Navajo are part of Apacheria to many non-native americans. Do the Apache wars include the Spanish/Mexicans or start with Americans? If with Americans, then it they might start around the time of the killing of Magnus. Another issue is that Apacheria was made up of different groups, without a unified leadership or history of joint operations together against outside foes. This was/is often misunderstood (or ignored) by non-native americans.

Reorganize the page. Keep most of intro paragraph, define area and timeperiod of Apache Wars. Give an overall timeline depending upon defination of Apache Wars. Arrange facts in timeline order. for example: Magnus, Carleton, Carson, Manuleto?, Crook, Victorio, Miles and ending with capture of Geronimo.

Tucson is not part of Rio Grande watershed, however mining and cattle interests from Tucson to Santa Fe did seemed to stir up the Southwest (my opinion). I have to research a common defination of Apache Wars.