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Archive 18: 30 Nov 2006 to 31 December 2006. Chit-chat, vandals, trolls, music recording stuff, Mount Pinos, more vandals, thank you notes, Christmas greetings, lots of other stuff.

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[edit] New section

So I was just trying to get a handle on recording Revecy venir etc., when the effing evensong bells started going off right outside my window. Usually I like them ok, but it's pretty annoying when you're trying to record something. We'll see. Mak (talk) 22:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Revecy_test Image:Revecy test.ogg

Test, to see if you think I should keep going. Let me know what you think.
Problems listening to the file? See media help.

Mak (talk) 23:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I'll give it a listen when I'm home with my own computer and sound (at work still) ... :) Antandrus (talk) 23:32, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I think it works. Pretty. While it would be better to have many different voices, (which can be hard to gather, especially for a volunteer job, unless you have a nearby supply of talented graduate students you can tempt with wine and food) -- I think you can get a pretty good result this way. Antandrus (talk) 02:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Hm. What do you think of the bass? It sounds really weird to me, but I'm unable to be objective. Mak (talk) 03:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
It does sound just a bit odd; not severely, but not quite right. Not sure what you can do about it though. Oh, and whatever you do, don't start multiple versions of that file playing in several Firefox tabs on a Mac. Weird noises and messy crash.  :) Antandrus (talk) 03:25, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
lol, ok, I won't. I'm not sure why I would, but I'll be careful not to. Mak (talk) 03:29, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
My turn - sounds good enough for Wikipedia, though the bass - well, it's echoey. That's the only word. Sort of shallowly cavernous - oxymoron I know, but it's basically all right. How is this done, BTW? I'm intrigued, knowing virtually zilch about recording techniques. Press on! Cheers, Moreschi 15:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Hm. Good enough for Wikipedia? Good enough to bother doing 40 more measures? (That was just one measure!) That's my real question. I agree with you on the bass. It's hollow and boomy sounding with no core, and the vowels are really off. I tried to do it so that if it weren't transposed it would be really bright, which helped a little bit, but it's still decidedly not right. I'll experiment with that part a bit more, see if I can do anything.
As for how I'm doing it, this is my first attempt at such things. Since I spent all my spare money on a lovely new Mac, since my PC died a horrible and untimely death, I didn't have extra money for, say, a good mike or fancy editing software, so I'm just using the computer's mic and GarageBand. I think it worked reasonably well for A Chantar, but I don't really think the mic is good enough for when I get into my high range and let loose, but perhaps it'll do. The tuning is difficult to get right, though. When I sing completely alone in a dry room, especially out of my range, I tend to drift a little bit, since I don't have perfect pitch (I think most people do drift a little), so it was really difficult to get the first tracks in tune enough. I was trying to match pitch with my crummy keyboard at first, but that didn't work very well, since it's in a decidedly equal temperament, which is my least favorite thing to sing such music in. Once I got a couple of the voices laid out it was easy enough to stay in tune, but the tuning could still be better, I think. I'll keep playing with it. Mak (talk) 22:14, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Trade you my perfect pitch for the ability to sing.  :) I just laughed out loud at the thought that you may be well the first person to record Claude Le Jeune using GarageBand. Don't know why that is so hilarious ...
It's definitely worth pursuing. I agree with Moreschi. Have fun! Antandrus (talk) 23:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I just uploaded a new version (same link). It's a bit ragged, and has already drifted up a semi-tone... argh. Not sure what to do about that, I'll probably have to record it all again, but I think the bass and tenor sound a lot better. Mak (talk) 00:18, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
It's a worthy project. Reminds me I could be making musical examples too, instead of whacking vandals with a blackjack, which seems to be what I spend too much time doing these days. Antandrus (talk) 03:09, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Sounds better, though, right? I'm trying it with a drone now, to see if I can stop the drifting, but 1) I'm tired now and 2) it sounds a bit straitjacketed, but that might just be because of 1. Mak (talk) 03:33, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

(arbitrarily de-indenting) It does sound better, indeed. Are there times of day you prefer singing? Weekend coming up ... :) Antandrus (talk) 03:36, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I like to sing on a day when I've slept in just a little, about an hour after a good brunch. For some reason those seem rarely to occur. I generally like to sing in the afternoon best, when I've properly woken up but am not exhausted yet. Yay! Weekend! Although I have to sing ungodly early every Sunday, which kinda cuts into the weekend to an unreasonable degree, but at least it's singing for money, so that's good. Mak (talk) 03:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Me again - it does sound a lot better, specially the bass. Definitely worth persevering with. The only I would say is that whatever equipment you're using does rather have a panic attack when your voice climbs up to hit whatever high note that is on "saison", though "Le courant" sounds fine. Cheers, Moreschi 13:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 1 December 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Miserere (Josquin), which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

(on behalf of Sandstein) BigHaz - Schreit mich an 07:45, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! I had no idea anyone even noticed articles I wrote.  :) Antandrus (talk) 03:33, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Music of the Netherlands

I once wrote a gripe on the talk page of Music of the Netherlands about the complete lack of historical perspective. I wonder if you, with your interest in early music, would be in a position to do something about that.  --LambiamTalk 08:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] thanks for reverting vandalism of my userpage

--BostonMA talk 03:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! Where do they all come from ... Antandrus (talk) 03:10, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Two things

1) How do you feel about infoboxes on biographies? 2) um, I forget. Oh yeah, I have no clue who the person is who's vandalizing my userpage. If they're trying to make a point, they're failing miserably. Mak (talk)

1) Personally I don't like them. I think they're great on lizards and frogs and rock bands, but on composers? eh. That's just my preference though. 2) I noticed too, but that one's not interesting enough to bother with. When I scent hard-banned users or other long-term nuisances it's another matter.
It's a nice day here and I'm thinking of walking on the beach instead of editing Wikipedia. What a thought... :) Antandrus (talk) 19:54, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
How was the beach? I've been playing with the puppies a bit. Mak (talk) 22:32, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Actually never made it there; went to the hills instead. Now I have to go to a party in a few minutes. Pfffft, office parties. I'll want to talk about Josquin and they'll want to gab about golf. Antandrus (talk) 22:34, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Office party? On a Saturday? Isn't the whole point of office parties that you get paid to socialize with your co-workers, during working hours, which is what compensates you for having to socialize with your co-workers? Mak (talk) 22:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Guess what I got for my birthday :] Mak (talk) 22:54, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Another puppy? The complete works of Francesca Caccini, in a box set? Tickets for two to Ferrara for a week, and a case of fine Chianti?  :) Antandrus (talk) 22:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
A real microphone! Mak (talk) 23:03, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
YES!! That should be fun. Btw, you've got mail. Antandrus (talk) 23:05, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
You have mail :) Mak (talk) 00:50, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Hey, thanks!! Did you ever notice it was in Hypoionian?  :) (been a long day, about to go out for Indian food in a bit) Antandrus (talk) 00:54, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Nope, I never noticed that. Have fun! Mak (talk) 01:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting, you beat me to it :) Mak (talk) 16:34, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anonymous 4

I'm all excited: I get to see / hear Anonymous 4 *in person* for the 1st time tomorrow night out at UCLA!! This newbie's happy! Just wanted to share it with someone who would appreciate my excitement... I made a couple little updates to their article, but maybe after I've heard them I'll have some more! Laurie Fox 03:57, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, indeed, it was truly wonderful! Somewhat surprisingly, though, there wasn't a single "early music" song on the whole concert! It was all "early American!!" Their sound is unearthly, regardless of WHAT music they're singing - it just transports you to another sphere somehow. Amazing. I succumbed & bought both of their "early American" CD's. Ran into a guy who I'd sung shape-note music with, who I hadn't seen for ages. That was kind of neat - he's going to come to one of OUR concerts soon - I'm always recruiting! I want to add a couple of lines to their article about their branching out into American music, but not tonite!! Mpwrmnt 10:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for your support with my RfA. My nomination succeeded. It's an honor to join the admin ranks and I can only hope that I do as good of a job as you. I appreciate all the times you've blocked vandals I've reported and the user page reverts. Thanks again! =) -- Gogo Dodo 05:45, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] How to Revert?

Talk:List of choirs is on my watchlist, so I'll know if /when someone answers my question there. So this morning I discovered a question there by Afil. I checked out Afil's concern & it's clearly junk, so I wanted to revert it. My question is, is there a "revert" button somewhere, or do you just have to go in and manually take out the offending addition?

Also, the same user made a change a day later to another choir, but I can't figure out if it's something that should be kept or not... Could you take a gander at it? Thanks! Mpwrmnt 19:07, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I had done everything up to the last 2 steps (edit/save). That's easy - I'll just do it myself next time. BUT it looks like at the same time they were vandalizing one choir, they were adding a link to another choir with an existing article, which was lost with your revert. How can a vandal be destructive AND constructive at the same time?!?!? Puzzled, Mpwrmnt 19:29, 4 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Thank You for Watching My Talk Page

Hello Antandrus, thanks for keeping a lookout on my user talk page :). I appreciate it.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 04:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dresden Orchestra Characteristics

Hello Antandrus, you've answered some questions for me before, and now I need your help again. I was told to write an essay on the origins of the orchestra, and my teacher sugested to include information about the king's 24 violins of Louis IV (of which I've found plenty of information) and also of the Dresden orchestra. Of the latter I have only found that it was created in the year of 1584, but i need to know more about its characteristics, what intruments it had, how many were they, what was their repertoire, what were their stylistic characteristics, etc. Thank you very much for all your help, sincerely, Charly. --Cha daniels 04:05, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

It's an interesting assignment! I would also strongly recommend looking at the history of the Venetian school, since they used a lot of instruments at Saint Mark's. Many people who trained and worked there moved elsewhere, especially Germany, and doubtless influenced what happened at Dresden (Hans Leo Hassler, possibly, as well as others). A lot of the action in early large instrumental ensembles was in north Italy and Germany, especially before the 30 Years War shut everything down for most of the early 17th century. Look also at the orchestration for Orfeo for a good bit to write about (Monteverdi was at Venice for a while too...) Fun, Antandrus (talk) 04:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
The article in the New Grove on Dresden gives some good information; I see that the court of Saxony employed a lot of instrumentalists; indeed they may have been consciously competing with the Venetians some of the time. Antandrus (talk) 04:17, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 64.222.111.230

well again, i am now very impressed with the speed and efficiancy of wiki. d***. well hey, passed my tests, and i didn't think i would get an acutal response either, though yours wasn't exactly personable ;)

i wonder if this will be considered vandalizing too.....-_-

ps, i didn't know how to make another section so i jsut wrote here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.222.111.230 (talkcontribs).

[edit] Peatbog Sergeant

Do you have any memory of this matter? [1] It may be a sock account, and he appears to be referring to another account you blocked. Thanks, -Will Beback · · 06:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the report. I was thinking he might have been another LTA that I'm familiar with but you've made it clear that they're different folks. Cheers, -Will Beback · · 20:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikifying

Hey, Antandrus! I'm working on wikifying Carlos Salzedo, just because I stumbled across it the other day & there's SO much work to be done on it!! I'd appreciate it if you could take a gander at what I've done so far & make sure I'm going in the right direction &/or give me any suggestions to simplify the process. Thanks! --Mpwrmnt 08:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for reverting vandalism to my page:) — Lost(talk) 19:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! Happy editing, Antandrus (talk) 19:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Withdrawn

I appreciate your support, but have decided to withdraw from consideration for a position as an arbitrator. The community has overwhelming found me to be too controversial to hold that position. Thanks again for your support.--MONGO 19:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thankyou for reverting vandalism to my userpage- I really appreciate it! CattleGirl talk | e@ 03:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! I don't know where they all come from .... sigh ... :) Antandrus (talk) 03:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks from me too!. After a long period of calm, my user page is now being regularly attacked, but I won't resort to protecting it. jimfbleak 06:55, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Area 51

Area 51 isn't a copyvio; the "source" cited is infact a mirror, and a particularly lame and uncompliant one at that. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 20:26, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

I know you were just doing routine vandal patrol. Still, I want to offer a humble and appreciative thank you for deleting the vandalism to the Langston Hughes article. You and other vandal patrol members keep me and others contributors to WIKI from getting discouraged and giving up. Thank you so very much.TonyCrew 22:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

"...it's kind of fun swatting vandals, in an odd sort of way." I really love that comment. It's funny and sounds like a great way to reduce stress. Again, as always, a very sincere thank youTonyCrew 17:13, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome again! I think the reason that article, as well as Harlem Renaissance, get so much vandalism is that they are the focus of school assignments. It will stop as soon as kids are out of school for the holidays. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 17:25, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thank you for blocking Willb285. Unfortunately, he will be right back as 68.106.64.117. I reported them both a half an hour ago and 1568 and I have been reverting their blankings since then. IrishGuy talk 00:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Willb285 got creative. He installed pop-ups so he could revert to blank pages rapidly. I've never seen a vandal do that move. Crafty. IrishGuy talk 01:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yet more Thanks!

Thanks very much for continuing to protect Richard Wagner from vandalism. As you say, where do they come from, and what possible pleasure can they get from this stupidity? Thanks again!--Dogbertd 15:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

My pleasure! Well, using the term loosely.  :) Antandrus (talk) 15:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Apologies

Very sorry. Lol, I left to take care of something, and I had a DNA page open ffor work on an assignment. My little brother must have done something, I didn't know anything had been vandalised. Won't happen again ;] peace-<

Mattjblythe 18:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sense of humor

Excellent blocking reason, at least you know how ot have fun with this place...perhaps we can discuss my original account being unblockedSeeMoreDoMore 03:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Why don't you try being a good contributor instead of a vandal? You're right, it is fun here. Antandrus (talk) 03:14, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
B/c there are plenty of people who have pissed me off...its petty, yes, but as I have been unable to reason w/ anyone I have gone to vandalism to fulfill an ultimatumSeeMoreDoMore 03:16, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the revert on my userpage. Wow, I made this guy mad; usually the nonsense page creators aren't as bad as the normal vandals. — BrotherFlounder (aka DiegoTehMexican) 04:51, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Doorbell" article

While giving the article "Doorbell" a routine copy edit, I found that the version I started from—the latest version at that point—showed vestiges of vandalistic attention that had been lavished on it at different times. I looked into "History" and found, for instance, that "inside the building," which makes sense in connection with doorbells, had been changed to "inside the turkey," which does not, and had then become "inside the turnkey," which also does not but may have been provided by a well-meaning person.

A parallel sequence went like this: "In most wired systems..." to "In most sex positions..." to "In most set positions..." In both places, I've restored what I think should be there. I don't know much about doorbells or wiring, however, and I wonder whether the rest of the article is all right.

I'm posting here because your name came up in History as a dedicated reverter (sorry, but them who has gets, you know). The dates in History suggest that the Doorbell article may not be on anyone's watchlist. Do you know who the local doorbell expert is? Someone with technical knowledge should check this article. Cognita 04:51, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Comparing Yuckfoo's version and mine, and assuming that Yuckfoo knows doorbells, it seems that the only remaining question is whether the last word should be "light" or "horn." Another part of the article says deaf people use a light as the signal.
As for the need for copy editors, yeah, I noticed. Cognita 05:32, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Speaking of recordings....

Guess who is linked to in this link? Mak (talk) 20:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Very fine!  :) Antandrus (talk) 22:00, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar!!!

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
well deserved! I've seen you around tirelessly reverting vandalism to articles, well done! Keep up the very good work- CattleGirl talk | e@ 02:58, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Why, thank you!! yeah, RC patrol is what I do when I'm feeling lazy... click, rollback, click, rollback, laugh, rollback, snort, rollback, snarl, click, rollback, groan, roll eyes, rollback ... :) Antandrus (talk) 03:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the thankyou! :) Nice description of RC patrol... but yes, I noticed a very accurate and quick batch of reverting in there, and I thought it deserved an award- CattleGirl talk | e@ 03:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Andy Warhol

What do you think of having a double photo of Andy?

You know, of course, that that's one of his inventions??
Yours truly,Yours truly,Ludvikus 05:04, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Can you discuss it with me on Warhol's Discussion page?? Thanks. Thanks. (I don't really, really, statataterrrrr)!! --Ludvikus 05:07, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for your comment. No I have not seen any double portraint of Andy - its my own (obvious) idea. And the EMPTY SPACE in the article WITHOUT HIS 2ND IMAGE is HORRIBLE!!!

i'M SURPRISED A NATURE LOVER LIKE YOU LIKES ANDY!!

Anyway, can you support me on this "goofy" idea? I do not think it goofy at all - unless you think him goofy! It's also, obviously, from FILM - Motion Pictures are merely slight variations of highly similar images! And Andy asleep, seems to wake up when we have a DOUBLE of him - one for each eye!!

No, I,m not goofy myself - except for the fact that I think him a Media Genius, perhaps second only to Marshall McLuhan! ! --Ludvikus 06:18, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know?

Updated DYK query On 13 December 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Harmonice Musices Odhecaton, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--GeeJo (t)(c) • 01:04, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank's a lot!

Hey Antandrus, thank's for anwering so fast on the orchestration article, I posted another comment about expanding the article with basic things of Orchestration and some quotations from orchestration books. I'll give it a shot myself so please tell me what you think! By the way, thank you also on the Dresden Orchestra stuff, it really helped me!--Cha daniels 04:51, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! Yup, the orchestration article needs expansion ... one of thousands of things that do. It'd be fun to do.  :) Antandrus (talk) 04:52, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for reverting the userpage vandalism before I even caught it. I appreciate it! Mytildebang 19:14, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome: my pleasure!  :) Antandrus (talk) 19:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Verdi

Next time, I will wait for a few seconds before saving! ;-) --Al Pereira(talk) 20:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for the warning Antandrus. I will no longer make personal attacks per your request. However, I trust that you will monitor the Talk:Barrack Obama article and ensure my comments are not deleted ever again. 68.163.135.90 03:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] THEY WERE JUST DELETED AGAIN.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Barack_Obama&action=history

I'm sorry if I'm coming off as a SPAZ, but HOLY SHIT. Wikipedia is seriously run by anti-Islamic bigots. They just delete all my COMPLETELY VALID comments on the talk page for no reason at all. Well, only one reason, because they are anti-Islam and anti-Arab and do not want my comments to be given the light of day. Fuck wikipedia, why should I even bother registering at this site in which a contributor cannot even have his comments on a talk page seen before being deleted with no reason given. FUCK THIS!!!!!!! 68.163.135.90 03:29, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

It appears you made three changes to the talk page.
1) [2], is still there.
2) [3], is still there.
3) [4] was a deletion of Bobblehead's comment, by you. What exactly are you referring to? No one deleted your comment. You deleted his. Antandrus (talk) 03:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for catching the vandalism on my userpage. 23skidoo 03:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! Another day, another five hundred vandals.  :-/ Antandrus (talk) 03:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wow. You're quick.

Yeah. You really are good at stopping vandals. Okay. No more vandalism from me. I was actually about to edit out my 'contribution' whenever I noticed that you had done it...within five minutes of it being made. Nice work! I'll be good now.

[edit] Thanks for VRR revert

Thanks for reverting my user page "Vandal Return Reciept"  :) Did you notice that the vandal actually left an edit summary?? That just cracks me up. -- ShinmaWa(talk) 04:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

No way! When did that start? That's a great feature! :) -- ShinmaWa(talk) 04:58, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How kind!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
I had no idea that anybody ever watches my Poetry Corner! I hereby award you this barnstar for doing such a kindness and reverting the nonsense that was put on it... ¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 20:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] American Suite (Dvořák)

Latest semi-translation from the French. Revue et Opine, SVP. ~Kylu (u|t)

Nice job! I was going to suggest translating either the French Suites or the French overture from here to there just to be parallel, but alas, they've already got them.  :) Antandrus (talk) 04:43, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
You may want to check the contributions of User:JBarrett, who is a sockpuppet doing similar other-language-to-English translations. There are a few good original works in there also. JBarrett would absolutely love to do a collaboration if you're willing. :) Kylu@Work. 207.145.133.34 01:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Ah, excellent: I'll keep that in mind!  :) (We need a barnstar for "Sockpuppet of Virtue and Good Works" -- the very idea makes me dizzy, LOL) Antandrus (talk) 02:21, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Louis XIV

Someone keeps vandalizing the Louis XIV page (your bot is fixing, but it is presently vandalized).

[edit] What a Unblock Message

Hello Antandrus, I noticed you issued an indef block to another Willy on Wheels sockpuppet. I just wanted to alert you to his unblock message. Surely that will also go out on wheels.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 21:19, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Hey, many thanks for keeping an eye on my user page. Much appreciated, especially when I'm not around to revert it. WHeimbigner 21:35, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! Remember if a vandal takes the time to vandalise your userpage, it's a reliable indicator you're doing something right here. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 22:31, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you...

I've been reluctant to do any blocks lately, so glad you took care of that situation.--MONGO 06:29, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

I have but a cloudy crystal ball...but best wishes anyway.--MONGO 06:37, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:74.96.105.51

I'm glad you just blocked that user there. He was continually blanking the Soil article and replacing it with abusive comments, he did it 3 times, I gave him a final warning and he altered it so it said, it was his first warning. I was just about to report him but thanks for helping me out. Nitro calibur 16:27, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Block that user

Block the user who blanked my page. They're going wild and have blanked 3 more after it. Nitro calibur 17:01, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

'tis done. Antandrus (talk) 17:05, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bad username

Block this user: User:Big black penis has a very bad username. Nitro calibur 17:27, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

here's the proof (User creation log) 17:26, 17 December 2006 Big black penis (Talk | contribs) New user account.

[5] Martinp23 took care of it. Antandrus (talk) 18:20, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I know, you weren't here so I told him. Nitro calibur 21:12, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Preference?

Do you have a preference between

Image:A Chantar.ogg

and

Image:A Chantar2.ogg

? (I won't bother putting them in the player thingie since the browser player is broken right now) Mak (talk) 21:59, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Help me

Martinp23 is going to block me for being a sock, but I'm not a sock, and I've made no bad edits, can you persuade him to stop?? Nitro calibur 21:13, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Restore

For historical purposes please restore the user and user talk pages for A Man for the Glen, Dirkenstein, Danielle Cunio and Jake Remington. I could do it under my only admn account, Curps, but I lost my password to that account.Daygoe 00:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

LOL, "Curps," you made me choke on my beer. I must say you do have a good sense of humor. Seriously, the only way to get things undeleted is to go through Deletion review -- I won't do it unilaterally, since it would break site policy. The only time I will violate policy is if I need to invoke WP:IAR to defeat a serious threat to the encyclopedia (that's why I list myself as a Rouge Admin). Antandrus (talk) 02:26, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-protect Mauna Loa?

Hi, Antandrus. Can we sprotect Mauna Loa for a while? An entire section of the article was destroyed back on November 21, and no one noticed for a month!! This is crazy: one of our featured articles is being trashed under the weight of vandals.

Thanks! hike395 05:24, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I've noticed that there is something about volcanoes that attracts wacko anon vandals. Are they volcano-phobes? I don't know. If it were up to me, I would leave all FA volcano articles permanently sprotected. This is less radical than making all articles (in effect) be sprotected. Just a thought. hike395 05:35, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Maybe it's the Xenu effect. LOL (and you know, I'd never heard of that until I came to Wikipedia ... ) Antandrus (talk) 05:36, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
I hadn't either! I only learned about it with the discussion around Image:Puu oo.jpg. The things you learn editing WP! hike395 05:42, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mt. Pinos Picture

About me changing the location of where you took the picture, I'm almost 100% sure that you took the picture from here...

http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=34.81201&lon=-119.13985&size=m&u=4&datum=nad27&layer=DRG

I took a hike to the top yesterday actually and took a picture from the exact same spot. I know where I took the picture for sure. I took it before I reached the top, so there's no way I was looking from the west. I think the pictures look the same, here it is...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/Cygnus/test598.jpg

Are you sure you're not mistaken?

Cygnus 00:07, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clarinet reference desk-Thanks!

Thanks for your quick response regarding the tenor clarinet question. I wasn't expecting a response for a couple of days, but in minutes you had a pretty thorough answer. Thanks a lot! -Kevin 06:17, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thanks for the support! MONGO 09:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New page: Parthenia (music)

Antandrus, may I ask you to have a look at my new page: Parthenia (music). This is my very first entire contribution to Wiki, and I would like to ensure that it 'conforms'. As a lover of this music like myself, and an experienced editor, I am sure you can improve on the layout or whatever is missing. 'Parthenia' was a serious lacuna in Wiki, and I'll now link the mentions in John Bull etc. to the new page. Any editing, comments, criticism, will be gratefully received. With many thanks. Nick Michael 22:54, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I think there should probably be a 'disambiguation' page involved, as entering Parthenia alone brings up something completely different, but I have no idea how to create such a page. Nick Michael

Very many thanks Antandrus for your sage editing. The article looks far more respectable now!
I will bear in mind the subjects you mention that require articles (don't know if I'm really qualified to write some of these...).
However I would like to prioritize enlarging the article on Farnaby, and also want to make a new article on Daniel Hopfer (no musician - the engraver). I'll see if I get time over Christmas.
Thanks a lot again, all the best Nick Michael 16:17, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for blocking 24.208.81.207 and for your help with the reverts!

You're welcome! Kids must be out of school with nothing to do ... Antandrus (talk) 18:45, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
A second thanks from me, for the same block. Yup, the kids are out of school for the holidays; we can probably look forward to higher levels of vandalsim for the next couple of weeks. Doc Tropics 18:59, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
A second "you're welcome". Yes indeed: and unfortunately it is likely to coincide with many of the regular vandal-patrollers being away for the holidays. Sigh... Antandrus (talk) 20:12, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Michael-adams01

Thank you. User:Zoe|(talk) 23:53, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome; had a hunch it wasn't about to become one of our better editors. Antandrus (talk) 23:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Revamp of Giles Farnaby

Antandrus, as announced, I have entirely revamped and enlarged the Giles Farnaby article. My source was mainly the bio in MB XXIV. May I again ask you to have a look and add any necessary edits. Hope this meets with your approval. Thanks a lot. Nick Michael 23:53, 21 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Regarding 69.140.31.136

Thanks for blocking this guy. I really couldn't be bothered to WP:AIV such a poor troll. :)


[edit] Need a little help please

Hi! I was just wondering if you could help me block an unregistered user who is angry about the edits I have made to his page and has thus decided to go to my talk and profile page and blanked them! I have reverted all this, but I think he/she should be blocked. His IP is 66.21.220.86. His talk is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:66.21.220.86. Thankss!Ashu just worked hard. xD 03:17, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ashuduff (talkcontribs) 03:17, 22 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Socks

Thanks for confirming my suspicions re: the socks at Don Lorenzo Perosi. You might want to have a look at the suspected sock page I set up for them.--Dmz5 09:35, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree about LorenzoPerosi. Funny enough I have come across at least two other users who, in my opinion, are both a) very knowledgeable musicians making some excellent contributions and b) contentious and somewhat incivil editors. It is too bad! As for the Paulus article, I have set up a little project for myself to create/improve articles in that sphere, i.e. American composers/musicians I am fond of for one reason or another, like Dominick Argento, Ellen Taaffe Zwilich, & Elliot Forbes. It's remarkably easy to create a good article in ~15-20 minutes using the Grove & Newspaper archives.--Dmz5*Edits**Talk* 18:18, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sneaky spammer

Regarding This User and his contributions. If you notice the links he posts in articles concerning weight loss and models, they all lead to similar websites, with similar templates. You will also notice that in the top right corner of all the sites there is a link to the same amazon site selling diet pills etc. I suspect that this user is doing nothing more than sneaky advertising, but am unsure how to deal with him, having only been here a short time. I'm passing him on into your capable hands. Thanks! :)

Examples: 1 2 3

Update: Found a sockpuppet, Wilkinsj

Tkenna 14:18, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] albuquerque trivia

those edits were done by me, i forgot to sign in. i moved it in its own section. i do believe, however, that much of that trivia is nonsequencial or can/needs to be moved into other categories. Urban909

yes i totally agree. that section, in general, probably should just be deleted. actually, its taken me a week thus far to go through and move, edit, change, sub-catergorize, etc albuquerque's page. its an absolute mess!Urban909

[edit] mail.

You have some. Mak (talk) 02:48, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] .

You know, removal of false aligations from my talk page that isn't even posted by a Wikipedia personel is totally within my rights. And, subsequentally, I demand that it is removed. Demand because

A) It is a false allegation that was made by non-wikipedia personel B) You protected it in the first place C) I don't want it there

And, quite frankly, both locking and banning me was uncalled for.

At any time YOU COULD HAVE checked the validity of the claim (and I don't act like I understand how the notifications work, all I know is that placing a tag can put a page on a list). Isn't it your responsibility to verify a claim before making an action? Anyone could take an existing notification of ban and post it on another persons talk page. User:72.187.119.195

<<trolling removed>>

The warnings on your talk page are quite appropriate, considering your unproductive and disruptive behavior. We are a project to build an encyclopedia, not a free-fire zone for trolling. I have no patience for trolls and will block them on sight; take that as a warning. Instead of bothering us, I suggest you go have nice Christmas and happy new year. And please troll no more. Antandrus (talk) 15:58, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merry Christmas!


Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays Antandrus! | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 01:04, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
May you and your family have a Merry Christmas, as well as any other Holiday you may celebrate. I hope that warmth, good cheer, and love surround you during these special days. May God bless you during the Holidays. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 01:04, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
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You're welcome, and thank you. :-) As for my contributions, it's not much to be proud of. :-( | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 21:05, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New project

The beginning of a new project I thought you might be interested in, partially in response to the whole J.S. Bach mess: Wikipedia:Requested recordings. Cheers, Mak (talk) 07:02, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

That's a great idea. There are probably quite a few competent performers around Wikipedia who might be able to contribute. Hm ... Antandrus (talk) 16:01, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, now the question is how to get it all pretty and attractive, so it looks well-organized enough that people will bother signing up, and where to put information about it so that people will sign up. The difficult thing about a project like this is that you have to get something rolling at the beginning, or people won't want to bother with it, and will assume it will just fizzle out in a couple weeks. Which it might, if no one requests anything and no one signs up. (pokes all the musicians and recording engineers who read this to sign up). It seems like Wikipedia:Requested pictures is going quite well. This can do the same, it just takes a few more volunteers and a bit more organizing. Mak (talk) 17:01, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Looks to me like you're going about it the right way, putting notice in all the right places. (I can't currently join as either violinist or pianist -- I haven't been practicing enough recently to play to my own standards.) Antandrus (talk) 22:10, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
<weeps>But Antandrus!</weeping> Alright. Well, hopefully the right people will find it. I hope it doesn't just die an ignominous death. Mak (talk) 22:13, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my user talk by User:Wheelspergers syndrome SUBWAYguy 02:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! That particular troll is now blocked. Antandrus (talk) 02:45, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks too! --SunStar Nettalk 02:46, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikibooks

Hi, Antandrus.

I've returned to actively editing Wikipedia, which you might or might not have noticed from some edits I've been doing recently. Sorry I didn't post a wikibreak message or anything. It's nice to see that you're still active and doing an excellent job in the fight against vandals.

I was wondering if you had any interest in venturing over to Wikibooks and working on some material there, specifically musicology, although there are a lot of possible topics to cover [6]. I don't really know a whole lot about Wikibooks, but maybe it's worth looking into? I would be willing to assist with the musicology section, and possibly write a guide to playing the organ--except that those both seem like dauntingly huge projects to cover well. There's certainly enough around here to keep me busy, anyways. —Sesquialtera II (talk) 03:02, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, welcome back!
I haven't given the other Wikimedia projects a close look; might in the future though. Working here is job enough for now. Maybe once all the Renaissance composer articles are written up to a high standard ... but that seems like a long way off.  :) Antandrus (talk) 03:05, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, I just went and had a look at your links. My first comment is: oy. that's frightening. It does need work, and a lot of it. Antandrus (talk) 03:13, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] For you.

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For blocking that Blixagon dumbass. oTHErONE (Contribs) 03:07, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New page for cleanup?

Hi there! Hoping your solsticial event has been restful, or exciting, or profound, or whatever it is supposed to be. (How much more PC can I get?) Now, on to business: This article (Brian Ganz) just appeared, which I noticed because of the link to Leon Fleisher. I have tagged it as needing cleanup, but you will know better than I if it's the proper tag for the press-release article that it is.

I am having some people over tonight to read through some Obrecht (Missa Rosa Playsante), and if there's time Dufay (Nuper...), Josquin (Nymphes...), and maybe even Tallis (Lamentations); and also if there's time, some things I've written, so's I can at least hear how they sound. It promises to be a good evening, depending on how many actually arrive. We shall see... --Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 17:06, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

<hrmrhoom> Please excuse me, but if you happen to have a microphone of some sort, you might put it out and see what happens. I'm guessing it won't be a super-brilliant recording, but I don't think those works have any recording at all, and perhaps a passage could be gotten out of it which would be a good illustration :) Just a thought, because we don't seem to have enough free recordings of music which could be free. Mak (talk) 17:21, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your thoughts?

Hi Antandrus: If you happen to have some time, I'd greatly value any comments you might have on this discussion, since I know you have a great deal of experience with the project. Thanks, Heimstern Läufer 18:50, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

No problem, and thanks for weighing in. Talk to you more later. Heimstern Läufer 00:30, 28 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Help Please!

Hi there, I was recently contacted by a user who I'd like to keep anonymous who says that his/her edits are being reverted unfairly, and the reason being that an admin is saing he is a sockpuppet even though I assume his edits were perfectly fine and not against Wikipedia Policy in any way, I've emailed him and he says he is going to send me links of these examples of unfair reversion shortly and that he believes that this particular Administrator is picking on him unfairly, I'm not saying that he is right or wrong and that the Admin is right or wrong. At the minute I have no evidence except for his email, but hopefully he/she will shortly send me the evidence of this matter. I also provided links on the email about administrator abuse and a link to send a message directly to Jimbo Wales, but I told he/she that this should be a last resort. This user also says that he/she has contacted other Admins to investigae this, but he is asking for my help so I am trying to do my best (he also pointed out that he noticed on my User Page I would like to be a admin some day and that he would happily nominate me if I could help him - but I'm not doing it for that, I don't even think I'm experienced enough to be an admin!). Anyway I would just like some adivce on this matter. Also the user claimed that he had to create a new account to lose the watchful eye of the Admin who he believes is treating him unfairly, and that he was an experienced user. But please do not add this user to the sock puppet page as he is not really a sockpuppet and not vandalising Wikipedia at all, please could you help me to help him and if you will need the links to these unfair reversions, I will send them to you as soon as I get them (but please tell me if you will need them or any other data). I'm not taking sides with anyoe over this matter as I do not know the facts so I'm just trying to help this user get to the bottom of this so he can continue editing Wikipedia! Please Help soon and please reply on my talk page.

Respectfully... TellyaddictTalk 17:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] In respone to your response

Hi there, No no, you were not the one tagging this person as a Sock puppet and sorry if I accidentaly made you think you were, but I just chose you at random from the list of administrators and it was purely just to get your adivce on the matter, I hope you don't mind if I ask you any more questions on this matter at a later date, even though I've been here for a few months I won't know half as much as you do about that sort of thing. Thanks

Respectfully.... TellyaddictTalk 18:39, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Extending Jacob Peters (talk · contribs)'s block

See this. Would you object to me extending Jacob's block? Jacob has been a serial block evader. -- tariqabjotu 03:19, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

No objection at all ... I wasn't fully familiar with the history. Looking now at how he's been behaving on Ukraine and Holodomor-related articles, I think it's probably a good idea. Antandrus (talk) 03:21, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:Pulmonaryarchery75

Thanks! I was just about to try submitting him to WP:AIV as a vandal-only account. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 05:07, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What's the deal with User talk:64.107.0.195?

That didn't seem like a big deal to me...he made some very minor uncited comments, and I removed them as a matter of course. No big deal, really, and of course I was already aware that various commentators have made comments to that effect...my only issue was with including them uncited in the article. I explained my concerns on his talk page...and for some reason, he chose to be obtuse and added a citation for the fact that 6am is, in fact, morning. FWIW, I don't provide a link for it, but my email is enabled. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 05:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

See email. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 05:30, 31 December 2006 (UTC)