Talk:Anton Karas

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If the theme is not too long, producing an image with notes of the theme would be perfect.--Hun2de Correct me! 16:06, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether this would not be copyvio (rather:yes) A very small copy of the notes is on http://www.antonkaras.at/english_thirdman.htm -- WeHaWoe (talk) 08:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

According to Bruce Eder All Music Guide, Anton "spent the rest of his life a beloved celebrity" in Vienna. Opposite to the impression given by this article. I am inclined to change the article (in the absence of any sources supporting its claim). DrVon2 19:27, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Totally agree. I did a considerable edit on the article just now, and would like someone to proofread it, as my English is "somewhat less than perfect". My main source was the PDF in German quoted under "references", so I did not see much use in referring to single pages of it. In case someone wants some special statement to be referred, please use the "quotation needed" template. -- WeHaWoe (talk) 08:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] On edit: 22:52, 16 May 2008

Thanks for improving on the text so quickly. Maybe on my old days I'll learn to write better English this way ;)

I want to ask about a few things, most of them minor, however:

  • Could the spelling grammophone have been correct in 1949? I quoted from a "third-level source" (the PDF quotes a book which quotes the newspaper) by copy+paste. However, this is a minor issue ;)
  • On his bar and the retreatment (retirement?):
    It imo slightly shifts facts to say that "he still was not satisfied", the point is that he was not satisfied as an artist feeling to prostitute.
    The age of 60 was the earliest a man could retreat at that time without loosing money from his annuity pension, and that's what he did. That he retired "Because..." seems POV to me. He just closed his bar at the best time (it was actually never a true "Heuriger", but a touristical bar/restaurant; "Heurige" would only be allowed to sell wine from their own production, but have to pay considerably less taxes than bars or restaurants).
  • You removed "For sure he will have experienced envy, an emotion said to be not uncommon among Viennese confronted with outstanding success. There were lawsuits on Karas' authorship of the theme which was claimed by others without success, and it is true that of the very few compositions Karas ever did later, none reached any remarkable popularity." which I had put there for not totally neglecting one aspect of this one-hit-wonder, which is, that the authorship is not as sure as nice biographers like put it. It is a point biographies just omit: I however remember a newspaper article some time ago (probably in 2006, on occasion of Karas' 100th birthday), mentionning the man who sold him instruments, and repaired them, if needed, who had claimed that someone else had given the melody to Karas, the great performer (in 2006, I did not think this information would be of any value to anybody, therefore I can not quote, because I just remember that I've read it somewhere). So, I at least want to leave a note on this here.
  • Last: I feel uncomfortable with categorizing Karas as a composer. To me, it seems like categorizing Big Bill Broonzy as composer. I however will not interfere on this. WeHaWoe (talk) 07:27, 18 May 2008 (UTC)