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Contents 1 Merge 2 Germanization rather than germanization 3 British public people... 4 Vandalism by 194.9.5.10 5 It needs to be separate 6 Fawlty Towers 7 wrong information 8 Robert Graves 9 Showing point of view 10 Quality 11 Quote: Anti-German sentiment has endured in some countries, particularly Poland.

[edit] Merge

During the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Organised persecution of ethnic Poles the consensus seem to to merge this article into anti-Polish sentiment; the German versions are used as an example in discussion and there are several suggestions they should be merged as well. Comments appreciated.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  12:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Soap operas are about sentiments. Rename all sentiment articles before you merge anything.Xx236 16:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

No, I do not think that merging is a good idea. For example, Antisemitism and Persecution of Jews are two different topics. Anti-German sentiment and Organised persecution of ethnic Germans are also different. Former is about sentiment and propaganda, later is about real action, such as imprisonment, execution, etc. However, there is some overlap here. The article about "persecution" includes anti-German sentiment and rightly so. This is because any action (persecution) requires first to convince people that such action is necessary (hence the "anti-sentiment"). Still, I think it is perfectly fine to have some degree of overlap in articles about different subjects if it makes articles more readable.Biophys 20:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I think the two are quite inter-related (for instance regarding WWI), and sometimes the line between sentiment and persecution is a gray one. However, as Biophys points out, we have two articles for Jews, and now for Poles, so I'm not vehemently in favour of merging (though I do think readability will ultimately improve if we do combine the two). In either case, let's aim for some consistency across ethnicities - that's paramount. Biruitorul 03:34, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Germanization rather than germanization

Xx236 16:19, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] British public people...

The quote should be removed or supported with other sources.Xx236 14:54, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism by 194.9.5.10

The Wreschen repressions are described in the linked article. Maria Konopnicka existed and wrote an anti-German poem. What shall I prove more? I don't even know why do you protest - as German or as Polish?Xx236 12:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] It needs to be separate

This is of particular signifance to the expulsion of after World War 2. Harlowraman 09:28, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fawlty Towers

No mention of the 'Germans' episode from Fawlty Towers! A quote from this comedy show: "Don't mention the war" has become a common catch-phrase here in the UK. Colin4C 19:53, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] wrong information

Germans sometimes complain of stereotypical associations of them with acts and a regime of more than sixty years ago, such as the use of anti-German sentiment in headlines by parts of the British press, recent examples arising when German Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger became Pope Benedict XVI, though Ratzinger had been a member of the Nazi party and in the German army during World War 2, so the tabloids had some legitmacy rather than just relying on a stereotype.

Hi, I'm going to change this because as a short click on the Benecict XVI link shows, it's plain wrong. Ratzinger was never a member of the Nazi party (hey, he was just 18 when the war ended). He was a member of the Hitler Youth but it's not as if any german boy had had any choice about that. The same is true for the short time of military service that followed. So the tabloids didn't have any legitimacy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.109.222.60 (talk) 10:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robert Graves

I've requested an additional source to support the claim that in 1919 the anti-German sentiment started to diminish in Britain. The only reference given is a quote from a writer of German descent and thus he may have had a POV to express. An anti-French POV it seems. Was his view the common view in Britain as is implied in the article? A reference other than Graves is needed. 125.7.44.167 21:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Furthermore, Graves isn't considered an authority on this subject and the book from which the quote is taken is not a referenced scientific publication but an autobiography. Autobiographies are not a recounting of facts but a recounting of perspective. I will remove the quote if it remains unsupported by other references. 125.7.44.167 12:25, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

From you logic one could also argue that as Graves's father was Irish he may have had anti-English bias as well! He is reporting on the bias as he found it at Oxford which he was well qualified to express. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 13:34, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

From your logic any statement made in an autobiography is without POV and objective. His opinion means nothing Without external sources backing his POV. Shouldn't be difficult to find if his view was the common one. LuciferTom (talk) 00:47, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Showing point of view

As a member of WikiProject Germany, I have begun to neutralizes this article. I advise others to do so. --Alien joe (talk) 21:26, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quality

This article needs a lot of work. Many sections are incomplete, examples are patchworked together, and the tone is inconsistent. While not perfect, the Anti-Italianism article shows many ways in which this article could be improved.Udibi (talk) 01:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quote: Anti-German sentiment has endured in some countries, particularly Poland.

Why particularly Poland? This is absolute non-sense. The country that - by far - is the most anti-German is the United Kingdom. The Polish are much more anti-Russian than anti-German.

well, watch this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/euro2008/article-1024469/Germany-star-Ballack-caught-decapitation-row-ahead-Poland-clash.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.164.253.111 (talk) 19:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)