Talk:Anti-Catholicism in the United States

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[edit] NPOV - whole article, especially introduction

First of all, should anti-catholicism in the US gets its own page seeing as NPOV policy warns against splitting off a sub-topic in order to present a biased view without balance? Perhaps this should just be under Catholicism, in a criticism section? I'm not sure why Anti-catholicism in the US is such a special case it should be separate to all discussion of anti-catholicism. Is this undue weight?

Anyway, working on the assumption that one can have a neutral anti-catholicism article, as is being worked on for the antifeminism article, the introduction instantly implies that all anti-catholocism is always bigotry. Arguments aside whether it is or isn't (I'm not saying it isn't or is never), this is not NPOV. Is all criticism of various beliefs or ideologies necessarily bigotry? If you are antiterrorism, are you a bigot against terrorists? If you are anti-abortion, are you necessarily a bigot against abortion?

The editor who's written this introduction has tried to sneak in the bigotry POV by enclosing it as a quote from someone, but this sort of quote, an opinion rather than a definition from an unbiased source, belongs in the body of the article, not as the introduction, because it implies that this is the mainstream or factual explanation of what the topic is. Also, it then substitutes "anticatholicism" with "bigotry against the roman catholic church".

The entire article has a similar pejorative tone and fails to "write for the enemy" in presenting the justifications of anticatholicism. Some of the language used, such as discussion of the failure of Al Smith's bid for presidency, is not what one expects of a NPOV encyclopedia.

Some balance is needed surely. If others agree, we should move to re-arrange and re-write parts of this article to be in the spirit of NPOV policy. - and you will know know me by the trail of dead. (talk) 22:16, 27 May 2008 (UTC)