Talk:Anthony Eden hat
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Picture of hat added IXIA 21:47, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] GA nomination on hold
This is a charming and generally well-written little article that, in my opinion, richly deserves GA status. There are only a couple of improvements necessary. There are a few too many parenthetical statements that make the article flow less smoothly than it could, and it would be good if the text could be rewritten to eliminate these. Also, while citations are present, they aren't as full as they could be. Do Brief Lives, Anthony Eden and The Eden Legacy have authors, for example? You may find Wikipedia: Citation templates of use in fixing this.
Once these issues have been dealt with, I will be happy to pass the article. MLilburne 10:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- I must sadly concur. In the single section that I've just twiddled with, Vicky's characterization of Eden isn't made more striking by our knowledge that it was Vicky who invented Supermac: this is the kind of aside that's entirely right in a printed book but rendered unnecessary here by the hyperlinking of "Vicky". Also, Betjeman's couplet about Edward VIII is, well, about Edward VIII and not about Eden: there's something worth saying here about the fact that the famously hatted Eden was actually unhatted back in the days (or three years after the days) when such an act merited mention in a poem, but the article overdoes it a little. However, I must add that like MLilburne I greatly enjoyed reading this. -- Hoary 11:05, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
It also seems to me that there might be a little more about the fall from popularity of the Anthony Eden hat. As it is, the article ends with a quote from a Kinks song. I like the Kinks as much as the next person, but the article just trails to a halt rather than being concluded properly. MLilburne 11:10, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Have tried to improve the flow and have added some context, while remembering that this is primarily about the hat, rather than the man. I think the Betjeman ref, which I have amended, is relevant as the best known observation about hatlessness in the 1930s - relevant too because Edward VIII was another man with perceived star quality. Don't like the large quotation marks too much and so have removed. Hope this doesn't cause offence. IXIA 13:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- No, that's fine, the large quote marks are a matter of taste. The article is looking really a lot better--excellent work. However, I've noticed that there are still a lot of parenthetical statements floating around. Do you think you could do something about those? Cleaning up the parentheses would give it that final push into GA status. MLilburne 13:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I confess I tend to take a differing view. If you don't have the quotes, it's difficult to pin thoughts on anything. There is no really objective view about much of this, but, in my view, the observations of individuals offer do offer some insight and impressions: for example, Thorpe's comments about the Moscow photo seem to be to create a real image. I'll think about it! I'm intruiged how an article that started almost with an element of tongue in cheek has aroused such interest. Many thanks. IXIA 14:46, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- Just checking--were you replying to me? Because I agree that the observations of individuals are excellent and very interesting. What I was after were all of the phrases in the article that are in parentheses (like this) and just read awkwardly. MLilburne 14:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, yes, you and the world. Is this any better? Forgive me, I do understand what parentheses are, but somehow got the wrong end of the stick. (Long air flight yesterday!) IXIA 16:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- Looking better, but the removal of the parentheses has still left a few sentences that are run-ons. (I know, I'm being picky, but the article deserves to be as good as it possibly can!) The worst examples are:
- In one episode, when Wilson was told by Captain Mainwaring (Arthur Lowe), who, as manager of a bank, wore a bowler, that his hair was too long, Wilson replied that "Mrs Pike [his lover] says it makes me look like Eden".
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- In the period after his resignation from Neville Chamberlain's Cabinet in 1938 and the outbreak of war in 1939, when he returned to Government as Dominions Secretary, Eden and his acolytes, who, broadly speaking, favoured a tougher stance against Hitler and Mussolini, were often referred to as “the glamour boys”.
- Once these are taken care of, I think we'll be there. MLilburne 22:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, I've had another go. Maybe this is better. IXIA 21:59, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Right. I think that's do. Congrats. MLilburne 18:38, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. IXIA 19:45, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Anthony Eden Hat.JPG
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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
The removal of this image, which is fairly esential to illustrate what has been judged a "good article" is frankly bizarre. Why does Wikipedia so often shoot itself in the foot? IXIA (talk) 06:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
