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Contents 1 assorted questions 2 Photographs 3 Fred Archer 4 Fiat Lux 5 Possible semi-protection 6 why no pictures of him? 7 The making and dating of Moonrise 8 Note # 44 9 fomatting error

[edit] assorted questions

I would really like to see a picture of Ansel Adams. :) Goodralph 12:32, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Why isn't there a picture of Mr. Adams? He is famous for his photos but surely the article should also show what he looks like.

I am having trouble finding any documentation for Adams' supposed advocacy for nuclear fusion. The CCP does not list any fusion photographs or negatives in their archive. Unless someone pipes up I'm going to delete that reference. Will McW 23:56, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I can't find any either. Sure he was an environmentalist, but that doesn't mean he advocated nuclear fusion. So far as I can see, there are no documents to back up this claim and I'd remove the reference until something is found that can accurately support such a statement. — Aurora (Say hi!)[[]] 14:43, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)

Need to mention that he was a regular contributor to Arizona Highways Magazine since 1946

Edit of 5 March 2008 by 70.101.172.8: “... next to his uncles photos Ansel Easton ...” This edit had no comment and seems to make no sense; moreover, I'm unaware that Ansel Easton was ever a photographer. Barring some explanation, I think this edit should be reverted. JeffConrad (talk) 22:09, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Photographs

I've added an Adams photograph which is public domain, but not particularly representative of his work. Other Manzar Relocation Centre photographs can be found by going to http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query and searching for Ansel Adams. Some more characteristic National Park photographs are at the end of the list, but these are only shown with a very small thumbnail and a link indicating that they are probably copyright.

A more attractive image of 'The Tetons an Snake River' can be found at http://www.inkjetart.com/2450/48bit/page4.html That photograph was also obtained from the US National Archive from work Adams did for the US Department of the Interior. They make the claim that it is also in the public domain, but I was unable to verify that. If someone else can confirm it, it might be a better image to use. -- Solipsist 12:45, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Actually a better source is from the US National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) Picturing the Century exhibition at

http://www.archives.gov/exhibit_hall/picturing_the_century/portfolios/port_adams.html

but I still can't find much copyright information on these Adams photographs, though they were taken for the US gov. -- Solipsist 19:02, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

OK, I've finally solved this one, and uploaded a good version of The Tetons and Snake River to the Commons, with a source link indicating unrestricted use. Good introductory information on NARA's Adams collection can be found here. -- Solipsist 07:17, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

How about putting up a picture of the MAN HIMSELF?!!?!?

And why are none of the notable photgraphs shown? Are they all copyrighted? --62.216.23.119 12:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

There are at least two common titles given for the image of the Tetons and the Snake River: The Tetons and the Snake River, used elsewhere in WP and by Adams in Ansel Adams: Classic Images and on the Adams web site, and The Tetons — Snake River, used by the National Archives. Since the latter doesn't really make sense, I changed the text and the image caption to the former. JeffConrad 00:49, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fred Archer

Ansel Adams says in his autobiography that he and Fred Archer created the Zone System in 1940, so this could not be the Frederick Scott Archer previously linked from Fred Archer's name in this entry. The Fred Archer Ansel Adams refers to was a teacher at the Art Center College in Los Angeles, it seems, where Ansel Adams also taught. Everything is a bit confusing, however, since Ansel Adams didn't teach there until 1942.

Oops, that's my bad. It looked like a good fit (though I missed the dates). Thanks for catching it. -- Mwanner | Talk 01:13, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

No problemo SteveHopson 01:42, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fiat Lux

I saw the Fiat Lux exhibit at UC Irvine, sometime in 1989-91. I seem to remember that the photo collection was not published in 1967 or in 1968 (the actual centennial year) but was shelved as dissent swept the campuses. Only when the tour I saw occurred did Nancy Newhall supervise the creation of a companion book.

Also, Verne Stadtman (sp?) did put together a UC centennial history, with an Ansel Adams photo of the UC Berkeley campus on the dust jacket.

Am I close?

[edit] Possible semi-protection

This article seems to get a lot of vandalism - more even than some featured articles. If you look at the history, its almost all vandalism or tests for quite a long time. Perhaps this article would benefit from being semi protected? --Ozhiker 09:32, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] why no pictures of him?

Should we not post a portrait of Ansel himself somewhere? 70.176.230.110 06:19, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

It would be great if we could, but no one has found a free photo to include. Everything so far has been copyrighted. ·:·Will Beback ·:· 07:05, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Does this same concern not apply to the photographs shown in the article? 70.176.230.110 03:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, we searched hard to find images which are free. These were produced for the U.S. government, hence they are public domain. ·:·Will Beback ·:· 03:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

this web page gave me perfect information on Ansel Adams, which i needed for a school project. the only thing that i dont like about thit is, that i need sources. i needed to site this page but couldnt. it might make it easier for some students if the source is shown like other web sites, or if there is one, then it'll be better if its easier to find. sorry if this seemed rude, it was not intended to be rude. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.94.237.137 (talk) 06:20, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The making and dating of Moonrise

The current description of the making of Moonrise is misleading (and probably incorrect). Although it agrees with Adams’s later descriptions of the process, it is quite at odds with his contemporaneous description that appeared in U.S. Camera annual for 1943; that description is repeated in Reece Vogel’s post at the end of this thread on photo.net (accessed February 25, 2008). I have the same book, and the quotation is accurate. I certainly wasn’t there, but all other things being equal, a contemporaneous description is more likely correct than one written 40 years later. The calculation of the exposure mentioned in the later description also has little validity (that said, Adams’s chapter “The Moon and Moonlight” in the 1952 edition of Natural Light Photography remains a definitive treatment of the subject). One approach would be to mention both the early and late versions, but I don’t know if it is of sufficient importance to merit the additional space. A simpler approach might be to eliminate the description; yet another approach would be to use a note.

The note I added on the dating of Moonrise is long to the point of being distracting, but I’m not sure there is a good alternative. I don’t think the material belongs in the body of the article, but avoiding documentation altogether leads to some ambiguity, especially because the incorrect October 31 date is arguably the one in more common use (e.g., several of Adams’s books published in the early 1980s, and the web site for the Ansel Adams Gallery). JeffConrad (talk) 21:45, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Note # 44

There is a date of November 31 - should probably read November 1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.49.24.79 (talk) 02:42, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] fomatting error

There is a formatting error in the first paragraph, where the "Edit" option for the sections "Life" and "Childhood" doesn't show properly - they appear in the middle of the first para, at least on my screen. This may be due to the size of the photogrpah of Adams pushing text to the left of the page. I do not know how to correct this. PatrickHadfield (talk) 17:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Done (I hope). Wikipedia:How to fix bunched-up edit links has some how-to's. In this case, moving the photo a bit seemed to have fixed the problem. Pete Tillman (talk) 18:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC)