User talk:Anorak2
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[edit] PAL
You may well be correct about PAL not specifying frame rate, but as it is strongly associated with the 625-line/50Hz system, it would be more helpful to touch on the subject and point out the situation anyway.
Fourohfour 11:42, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- Hi Forohfour, the article in its current state explains that already in the first paragraph:
The term "PAL" is often used informally to refer to a 625-line/50 Hz (principally European) television system, and to differentiate from a 525-line/60 Hz (principally USA/Japan) "NTSC" system. Accordingly DVDs are labelled as either "PAL" or "NTSC" (referring informally to the line-count and frame-rate) even though technically neither of them have encoded PAL or NTSC composite colour.
- I think that states the association in current terminology clear enough, while it also makes clear that this usage is "informal", which I think is important. But it would be factually wrong to actually _define_ PAL as "delivers 625 lines at 50 half-frames per second" in the first sentence, as did the version I reverted. That would give first time readers a completely wrong idea. IMO it is important to distinguish scan lines/frame rate from colour system, and to make the distinction clear to anyone curious enough that they visit the page in the first place. :) Regards Anorak2 12:55, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
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- Yeah, the current version is good enough for me. Sorry, I should have checked closer; I thought you'd taken out the only reference to it. Fourohfour 17:06, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] PAL
Hi,
I've been removing the "tag" you've been adding to the top of this article because this is completely non-standard in Wikipedia articles. There are a bunch of "otheruses" tags that may be appropriate for this purpose; see {{otheruses}}. Beyond that, a description of the confusion should be left to the normal prose of the article.
Also, requests such as "To editors: Please put information about resolutions and frame rates in more appropriate articles if avoidable." should be left to the talk page, as it goes against WP:ASR.
Regards, Oli Filth(talk) 11:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- The "otheruses" tag would not exactly say what the box is supposed to say. PAL does specifically NOT mean picture resolution, so it's not just about different usages but about "wrong" usages. The problem is that many editors confuse the issue as well and clutter the article with a mix of both meanings which leaves the reader confused. The talk page has been widely ignored. What solution do you suggest for this problem? Anorak2 (talk) 10:11, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
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- Note that this is by no means the only article that contains or attracts incorrect or misleading material! The solution is always the same: remove incorrect material, and discuss the problems on the talk page. If a particular editor ignores the talk page and continually re-adds wrong material, bring it to their attention on their own talk page. If they still continue to do so, then it may become a disclipinary issue (i.e. it's tantamount to vandalism).