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Contents 1 My RfA 2 I need your Help! 3 Speculation 4 Hehe... 5 Thanks for the medal 6 02 7 Thank you for the 25 DYK medal 8 Signpost updated for July 2nd, 2007. 9 USB decoration 10 Thanks! 11 User Page Template? 12 Re: Your Signature 13 My RFA 14 Count 15 Re. My RFA 16 Edit count 17 RE:Your new bot 18 Thanks 19 JSTOR GAC 20 Your clerking idea 21 Skybot 22 GAC template 23 My RfA 24 Your question on my RfB 25 My fail with Sakcinski 26 Forbidden City 27 41 articles on Did You Know? 28 Lion season - one in all in 29 DYK 30 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 31 My RfA 32 The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XVI (June 2007) 33 Your inquiry on the number of my DYK entries 34 Signpost updated for July 9th, 2007. 35 DYK 36 My RfB 37 D'oh! 38 Thank you! 39 The Tireless Contributor Barnstar 40 Most Impressive 41 Anonymous Dissident 42 My RfA 43 Bot 44 Smile! 45 Padraig ← Padraig3uk 46 RE:Link 47 User talk:Vandalfighter101 48 thanks 49 Animals in 500 most popular articles in May 2007 50 Template 51 Template:Makelist 52 Infrangible Seal of Approval 53 Smile! 54 Templates 55 My RfA 56 My RfA 57 Signpost updated for July 16th, 2007. 58 My Report at WP:UFA 59 Question on Gears of War GA review 60 AfD discussion 61 Template:makelist - series 62 John Wylde 63 DYK 64 User:SkyBot 1 65 Thank you for your prompt review 66 Malta related article at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St John's Square 67 Admin coaching 68 My RfA 69 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 70 Orangemonster2k1 to Neutralhomer Usurp 71 that username 72 Signpost updated for July 23rd, 2007. 73 GAN 74 DYK 75 My Editor Review 76 Re: Userpage design request 77 A Featured Article 78 Your userpage 79 More Malta related stuff 80 Template:makelist - series 81 WP:SSP 82 Manfred 83 Userpage.... 84 Feeling Better? 85 Question 86 The Original Barnstar 87 Dusky Woodswallow GA 88 Fudgie_Frottage article 89 ToC floating 90 Thank you 91 Apple River Fort 92 My username 93 Wow. 94 Barnstar 95 Cheers mate! 96 Raine Island 97 Thank you! :) 98 1962 South Vietnamese Presidential Palace bombing 99 Your VandalSniper Application 100 Reply to Josh 101 Response to Anonymous Dissident 102 Thanks for clear help info 103 Another question! 104 Manfred 105 DYKs 106 My RfA 107 Help 108 Military history of Gibraltar 109 HoP 110 Apples 111 My recent questions to you

[edit] My RfA

Thing is that was the second time I've applied. I'm never gonna get it. They look on me like I'm a stupid 16 yar old with an IQ of 2. I can handle more reesponsibility then they give me credit for!!!-- Hornetman16 06:53, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

• • Replied on user talk. Anonymous Dissident^Talk 06:56, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I need your Help!

I made a new article That needs help. I will link it below with a website that has info.

StarFighter: Quadrant Wars

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[edit] Speculation

Hi, I just the comment on an RFA about the similarity between me and another user's signatures. After reading it I started a thread on WP:ANI about this "HarryMaxwell". it can be viewed Here. Black Harry (Highlights|Contribs) 23:02, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

For the record HarryMaxwell was indef blocked for being a sockpuppet of another indef blocked account. And I don't blame you for speculating, given the similar signatures I'd have done the same. I'm more interested in why he did imitate me though. Black Harry (Highlights|Contribs) 23:39, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hehe...

I hear you like apples? ~ Wikihermit 05:09, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

They are ok. I prefer oranges. Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:10, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

The award of orange lovers :-D ~ Wikihermit 05:17, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the bushel of oranges. I should enjoy them. If I'm feeling generous, I might give a couple to our vandal friend, Andyvon. That is, if he likes them.Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:20, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Maybe he is more of an apple guy.

Apples for Andyvon

! ~ Wikihermit 05:26, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the medal

Thanks for the DYK 50 medal. :-) IvoShandor 12:58, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 02

See [1] and WP:MOSDATE. I format the cite templates like that as I figure it will be easier for a bot not to have to pad the date number (although if it isn't handling that we probably shouldn't allow it out). Yomangani^talk 13:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

• Replied on Yomangani's talk. Anonymous Dissident^Talk 13:08, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for the 25 DYK medal

Thanks for the 25 DYK Medal from earlier today. I really appreciate it. Chris 13:16, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Signpost updated for July 2nd, 2007.

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[edit] USB decoration

Wow, that is the absolute best timing I have EVER seen! I got that message one click after reading the same thing on the article's talk page :) Perfect timing :). Anyway, thanks, and i'll try to work on it. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 10:27, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

That's fine, and i'm les unhappy than you would have expected. I didn't really expect it to pass, but I can always hope, and of course it always provides me with lots of constructive criticism. Thanks! Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 10:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for the birthday message! Hope you're okay, - Zeibura ^(Talk) 13:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User Page Template?

Hello,

As my userpage is currently, frankly quite ugly :), would it be ok if I used your design as a template for mine?

Thanks,

Kevinwong913 ^{Speak out loud!} 19:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Your Signature

I had a lot of problems trying to figure out how to make the custom signature. Although I requested help on how to make it. Now I am going to request help on how to fix it. Because I have no clue on how to do it. Cheers! King Lopez ^Contribs 09:44, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

Hi Anonymous Dissident, just a quick note to say thanks for participating in my request for adminship. It was successful and I now have some shiny new buttons. If I can ever be of help, please let me know. Happy editing, mattbr 09:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Count

Your edit count is 6292, according to this. But I am sure it's unreliable because somehow, my count turned up more than 10,000... --Dark Falls ^talk 12:28, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re. My RFA

Hmmmm, I wasn't discouraged at all. I didn't even want to be an Admin that badly, or I'd have self-nommed long before now. As it is, all comments apart from Jmlk's were constructive criticism, and I'll be working on them. Cheers, The Raven's Apprentice ^{(PokéNav|Trainer Card)} 12:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I will, eventually, when I'm a bit more involved with the community in general, and, of course, when I've bettered my dispute resolution skills. Cheers, The Raven's Apprentice ^{(PokéNav|Trainer Card)} 12:42, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit count

I noticed you said your counter was being stupid so [2] try that one. It's super quick. KOS | talk 13:01, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes I'm fairly certain that one is correct. I've noticed most edit counters have varying counts. For example, my count with the MediaWiki Query was me at "13920", while Wannabe Kate has me about 300 less. For all I know though, all the counters may be off be x amount. No idea what is 100% accurate, but I know that Wannabe Kate's sometimes stops counting if the count is very high. 45,000+. Anyhow, happy editing. KOS | talk 13:15, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Your new bot

I don't know any programming languages other than rather basic JavaScript, but I plan to learn C++ by the end of the summer. Anyway, 1) It uses AWB, so it wasn't hard to design and 2) It didn't take long at all due to the fact that there are about 3 other bots that do the same thing. :-) —« ANIMUM » 16:06, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Bots using the pywikipedia frame are fairly simple. To me they seem easier then Perlwikipedia. AWB bots are pretty useful though, I like them. If you need help, just ask :-). ~ Wikihermit 06:09, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Yup, you need an account now. Then you need to decide what the bot will do. A list of things it does can be found here. That also tells you how to run the bot. With those scripts you don't really need to edit them. If you want the bot to do something else besides that, then you will need to make your own script, which I don't know how to do all that well. ~ Wikihermit 15:58, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm not all that experienced with pywikipedia bots; I just started ;-). Have you installed python 2.5? If not, you can get it from here. Second, what operating system do you have (windows, linux, ect)? Okay, I don't understand the interwiki linking so much, but I get the categories. If you want to deal with adding categories, ect. AWB is sometimes easier. Okay I'll start from the beginning (I'm assuming you have windows).

First, you need to go to "run" and type in "cmd.exe" (no quotes). Next, type cd\"name of the location of the pywikipedia folder" (no quotes, full like (i.e. if pywikipedia is in C:\, you would type "cd\pywikipedia".)) After that you need to run the login.py file. To do this, you should see something like:

C:\pywikipedia>

You need to run the login.py, so enter "c:\python25\python login.py" in. It should come out as:

C:\pywikipedia> C:\python25\python login.py

After that you will be prompted to log in. Don't worry about it saying "your bot isn't listed at Wikipedia:Bot" or something similar to this. Enter the password for you bot in. The cursor won't move. Don't worry though, its entering it in. After you type in your password, hit enter.

Now you will need to run the category.py script. To do this, do the same as you did above, except replace "python login.py" with "python category.py". It should look like:

C:\pywikipedia> C:\python25\python category.py

After that you will need to follow the instructions here. I hope this explains it. If you need help, just ask. ~ Wikihermit 23:45, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Yup, the pywikipedia is the bot software. ~ Wikihermit 23:51, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Did you get it to run? ~ Wikihermit 00:49, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Yea, to get rid of that you type cd\"location of the pywikipedia folder", probably cd\pywikipedia (if you saved it to C:\ , ~ Wikihermit 00:53, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Have you gotten the bot to start up? ~ Wikihermit 01:24, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

What's the file path to the pywikipedia folder and what's the file path to python 2.5? You need to cut and paste those files into the "c" drive on your computer. And you don't include folder on your in cd\pywikipedia .~ Wikihermit 01:34, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what TortoiseCVS; I don't use it. Move python so the file path comes out as C:\ . Do the same with the pywikipedia folder. ~ Wikihermit 01:53, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Yup. For AWB bots, you just need to have AWB installed, and you need to get your bot approved at WP:AWB. ~ Wikihermit 01:55, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

AWB bots can do whatever you can do using AWB as a user, it just automatically saves it. ~ Wikihermit 02:07, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Yup. First you need to make a request (once you decide what the bot does) at WP:BRFA then if you get approved for a trail you make your request at AWB. ~ Wikihermit 02:11, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Add categories, yes. Fix redirects... I don't know. ~ Wikihermit 02:17, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Like adding WikiProject banners or adding stubs? Yup. ~ Wikihermit 02:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I'd imagine so. ~ Wikihermit 02:32, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

10 edits per minute is good. Its automatic; you can chose whether or not you want to supervise it. ~ Wikihermit 02:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Any program language is awb. ~ Wikihermit 02:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Its feasible, but instead of saying that it adds categories, you should say that it will complete task at WP:CFD/W. As far as adding stubs, I don't know how the bot would figure out if its a stub. ~ Wikihermit 03:19, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Well with WP:CFD/W, it doesn't add categories, it changes the category or removes the category the page is in. Otherwise, it looks good. ~ Wikihermit 03:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

hey, thanks for taking the time to review me. In response to your email, as of now, I do not have any plans to go through an RfA in the near future. I have also sent you an email. Cheers. - TwoOars 17:53, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] JSTOR GAC

Please do not review and pass/fail GAC's that are already marked as being under review, as JSTOR was. It is a common courtesy to the people who are taking the time to do careful reviews. Thanks. Awadewit | talk 22:50, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

What??? Were you reviewing it?? Oh, I am infinitely sorry! Please, feel free to remove my review altogether. Somehow I must have missed it. Please do. Once again, apologies, and I'll be more careful next time. (I tend to move very quickly through the links, so I must have just been going too fast to notice). Once again, sorry. Anonymous Dissident^Talk 22:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your clerking idea

I don't participate in RfA, but somehow I happened to bumble upon the talk page and see the discussion of your clerking idea.

A modification occurred to me that might meet your objectives, yet not introduce another hurdle in a way that would bother those raising that issue. Suggestion: All new RfA's must be posted to a separate page ("RfA preliminary" or the like). Nothing gets posted on that page except the RfA and the nominator's email address (suitably spambot-proofed, of course). People can comment by email to the nom suggesting that the nomination is way too premature, will be bloodbathed, and should be withdrawn. Some set time after the initial posting (say, five days), the nomination is automatically transferred to the main RfA page, unless in the interim the nom has chosen to withdraw it.

The "screening" or "preliminary" page might be readable by all, with all comments by email to the nom. Alternatively, it might be readable only by some select group (bureaucrats? admins who were sysopped more than two years ago?), who could post discouraging comments to the page but without those discouraging comments being seen by anyone not in the select group (other than the nom and/or candidate).

My thought was that many of the objections to your proposal could be avoided if the "clerking" process were totally voluntary. Under this modification, any nom (including a self-nom) could still choose to go riding into the valley of death, even after being warned of the futility. Some, however, might take advantage of the friendly private advice. They and the community would be spared the negative effects of a failed RfA. JamesMLane t c 04:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

That won't work very well... Firstly, unless we hold it in a separate wiki, it will be viewable to everyone. Secondly, this defeats the whole purpose of community consensus, as the 'crats and sysops will have total control of whether the user is sysopped or not. --Dark Falls ^talk 04:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

It was his idea. Lets just let him post it on the WT:RFA then we'll see if the community likes it or ravages it... Anonymous Dissident^Talk 04:29, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't sure the idea was ready for prime time (i.e., WT:RFA), so I'm glad to get some feedback here first. DarkFalls, I'd be grateful if you'd pursue this with me here (if Anonymous Dissident doesn't mind hosting the discussion).

• Everyone could see it -- Well, is it possible to set up a separate wiki? If not, then we'd go with the first variation, in which the page with the noms is viewable by all but no comments are posted there. Any comments by anyone could be reverted on sight. The only permissible method of commenting at this stage would be by private email to the nominator. The only constraint on the process would be that no one could make a nomination without providing an email address that would work for five days, surely no big deal.

I think a separate wiki for an administrative process on en.wikipedia is just too extreme. Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:23, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

• Bureaucrat and sysop control -- Please note that, unlike the "clerking" idea as originally proposed by Anonymous Dissident, my modification doesn't allow bureaucrats, sysops, or anyone else to kill a nomination. Suppose the nominator receives 50 private emails saying that the nom is hopeless and urging that it be withdrawn, with none in support. Suppose that, after receiving those emails, the nom chooses to go ahead anyway. In that case the nomination will automatically be ported to the RfA page after five days, and let the chips fall where they may. I don't envision a gatekeeper. It's more like a cooling-off period, during which people knowledgeable about the process can let the nom know what's probably ahead. The only constraint here would be a mandatory five-day delay in starting the RfA, again surely no big deal.

Does that elaboration and explanation answer your concerns? JamesMLane t c 07:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I've let DarkFalls know about the continuation of this discussion on my talk page. Anonymous Dissident^Talk 07:27, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

The thing about this preliminary rfa is that we already have admin coaching and editor review that does exactly the same thing, except publically, as a way of see if a user is suitable for adminship. This process just delays the RFA process for a few days, and helps those who are too lazy, and hinder those who do not wish for a review beforehand. --Dark Falls ^talk 08:15, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I'll let you two discuss this and I'll join in if I have something to say. I really think this should be posted on WT:RFA. Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree that it helps those who are too lazy to use the alternatives you mention, DarkFalls. I'll add that it also helps those who aren't aware of those alternatives. What's wrong with helping those people? For some of the people in each of those categories, the proposal might address the problem perceived by Anonymous Dissident -- that there are hopeless RfA nominations that waste the time of those who respond to them and that lead to bad feelings arising from strongly worded opposition. The reaction to the "clerking" idea suggests that many editors don't perceive it as a problem. For those who agree with Anonymous Dissident, though, this additional step might somewhat reduce the problem. JamesMLane t c 14:23, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

It might help get rid of those no-chance rfas but if a candidate is prepared for their rfa, it might be an unnecessary delay. It could be solved by adding a link to admin coaching or editor review, on the rfa page, instead of using an official process, as mentioned. The problem is that it makes an optional review turn into a compulsory or obligatory one. --Dark Falls ^talk 01:50, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Skybot

Um, why do you need for it to be deleted? Having a userpage should not affect account creation at all. If the bot's account name is not listed on Special:Listusers, you should be free to go. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 23:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Then the issue is not that the bot has a userpage, but rather that someone has registered that account already. The list of users and the list of user pages are two completely different things; in fact, just as you can have an account without a userpage, you can have a userpage in the User namespace without an account. In this case, I would recommend picking another name (if you decide that, then I'll go delete the page at your request), or if you really want to use that name for some reason, request usurpation of the account. That requires a bureaucrat's intervention, though, and I'm not a 'crat. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 23:50, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GAC template

I think that your GAC template is a good start. I wonder if you could work the following other templates into it, though:

• Pass: Template:PGAN or Template:GAList
• Fail: Template:FGAN or Template:GAList
• On Hold: Template:GANOH or Template:GAList

• I wouldn't put a specific number of days on the "hold" section (the banner says 2-7 already). I would put something like "If you have any questions about this review, feel free to contact me." You might also think about an optional statement like: "Please alert me when the revision is complete so that I can re-review the article" - some reviewers may want that and some not.

Let me know what you think. Awadewit | talk 02:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

The reason I wouldn't put a number of days on the "hold" section is because it is hard for you the reviewer to know how many days it might take the editors to finish the revisions. For example, sometimes when I am working on my dissertation or teaching classes (I teach freshmen composition classes at a university), I have much less time to work on wikipedia than others. Thus, for example, when my students hand in their papers and I have to grade them over a weekend, I need all of my time for that and can't dedicate any of it to wikipedia; it would therefore take me several days to finish a copy edit that I could do in one day at some other time. Time frames are not absolutes - they are relative. Awadewit | talk 10:13, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thank you for the nice commnts you left on my talk page. I plan to try again later should it fail. Hopefully, I can fix the issues brought up by the opposers. Captain panda 12:06, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your question on my RfB

I answered your question on my RfB, if you'd care to look at the answer. Thanks. --Deskana (talk) 21:04, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm... I have my doubts that it will pass. I find myself looking at it like I would were I a bureaucrat, and wondering whether I'd promote or not. We'll just have to see :-) --Deskana (talk) 21:13, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My fail with Sakcinski

LOL! That was a shock! But I really appreciate quick reactions. I was pretty sure my article was below the standard, but I wanted to check anyway. Thanks a lot, see you around. Now where did I put that reference book... :) --Zmaj 21:31, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Forbidden City

Thank you for taking the time to review, comment on, and pass (early) Forbidden City! Your help is much appreciated. --PalaceGuard008 00:00, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 41 articles on Did You Know?

Hello, I just want to let you know that getting 41 articles on Did You Know is simply amazing, especially considering your young age and your relatively short time here. I'm trying to do more article work... one day I might have as many as you :P Here's something for your hard work:

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For all your hard work on articles, I, Majorly give Anonymous Dissident the Tireless Contributor Barnstar. Majorly (talk) 01:39, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Also, have a nice holiday :) Majorly (talk) 01:39, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lion season - one in all in

Marskell wants to get Lion to FA and reckons (prob'ly rightly) its a pretty tall order for one editor - I'm thinking ambitiously but it could be a cracker - say 50-60kb and 120 odd refs or so. I have laid it out as per Jaguar FA but it is pretty bare. One of us could do Lion-taming, one Lion-baiting, one conservation etc. Could be fun. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:49, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

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[edit] My RfA

Thank you for your support in my recent RfA. However, it was unsuccessful. I am in no way disheartened, and I will hopefully succeed in a month or two. If you have any further suggestions or comments, feel free to drop me a line on my talk page, and I will be happy to respond. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 02:28, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Your inquiry on the number of my DYK entries

Dear observant fellow Wikipedian. Well, I don't have enough just yet... I take your inquiry as an encouragement. Thank you and regards Dragonbite 03:23, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] DYK

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[edit] My RfB

Thank you, Anonymous Dissident, for participating in my RfB, which ended unsuccessfully with a final tally of (80/22/3). I shall continue to work on behalf of the community's interests and improve according to your suggestions. Most sincere regards, Húsönd 23:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC) Obrigado, Anonymous Dissident, por participares no meu RfB, que terminou sem sucesso com um resultado final de (80/22/3). Continuarei a trabalhar em prol dos interesses da comunidade e a melhorar segundo vossas sugestões. Calorosos cumprimentos, Húsönd 23:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC) Thanks • Obrigado • Gracias • Merci • Danke • Спасибо • Tack • Kiitos Esker • Köszönöm • Takk • Grazie • Hvala • ありがとう • 謝謝 • 谢谢

[edit] D'oh!

Sorry to muddy the water there. I did not remember the earlier one. (Actually, I still don't, although it looks like something I would say!) Thanks so much for catching it! -- But|seriously|folks  03:31, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

• Hey - no worries. Memory must have momentarily stalled there. Happens to the best of people. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 03:33, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you!

Thanks in part to your support, I am Wikipedia's newest bureaucrat. I will do my best to live up to your confidence and kind words. Andre (talk) 09:03, 11 July 2007 (UTC) P.S. Thanks a lot for your added question, I think it helped a lot.

[edit] The Tireless Contributor Barnstar

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		I'm awarding you this barnstar for your great work on Wikipedia! Wikidudeman (talk) 14:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Most Impressive

Your list of articles created, and their content is most impressive. The fact that you are twelve is mind-boggling - no offense. You mention adminship around September on your userpage. I would be happy to nominate you at such a time, if you would like. Feel free to respond as the time approaches and I agree that mental age is most important. As my girlfriend is eleven years my junior, and I like to remind her mother that mentally, I am much more immature than I should be. the_undertow ^talk 19:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

So I took a gander at your RfA. Some valid concerns with the speedy but I think you see how prod could work in its place. As far as the self-nom and all the sheeple chiming in only after others have voiced their concerns, I would say that you RfA was disheartening. In real-life, a candidate for anything 'throws his hat in the ring.' Why is it so different here? At your expense, it was a good example of how not to voice an opinion during an RfA. Arbitrary rules and 'oppose because my friend does' is as constructive during your RfA as it would be at an AfD. However, because the process is ever-changing, and because most editors embrace change, rather than fear it, I keep my faith in this good community, just as you have. I look forward to edit-warring with you over quotation marks ;) the_undertow ^talk 06:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anonymous Dissident

It is hard to believe that you are only 12 years old and your English is advanced as a university student. You are a smart young man. Keep up the wonderful work. Cheers mate! King Lopez ^Contribs 07:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

By the way my signature is now fixed thanks to Riana. How does it look now? King Lopez ^Contribs 08:29, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Well, I was looking for a prettier way to do this, but I'm not very artistic, so I'll just say thank you for your support in my RfA, which was closed as successful. I look forward to serving the community in a new way. Take care! -- But|seriously|folks  08:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bot

At the beginning of your message. I placed it there anyway, so its marked as needing attention. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 08:39, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Padraig ← Padraig3uk

Sorry I didn't realise I had to leave a message for the user who is being usurped, I have now done so.--padraig3uk 08:47, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Link

I don't see any link on my talk page, but the one on my userpage is functional. —« ANIMUM » 15:46, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh wait! The picture-link was functioning, but the regular hyperlink was not. Fixed —« ANIMUM » 15:55, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:Vandalfighter101

Don't forget to replace the helpme template with {{tnull|helpme}} when you've answered the question. Cheers, Tim^{speak} 18:29, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks for pulling me up. It was my first answered, and I guess it just slipped my mind. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 01:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] thanks

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For helping me with my site, your kindness was not random even though my question was. :P lol thanks man.Vandalfighter101 19:23, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Animals in 500 most popular articles in May 2007

1st is cat, then dog, then human then....lion (!) then spider, then animal, then shark then tiger...

If lion got up it would be the only FA, though Cat is a former FA and spider has been a candidate (and looks in the best shape for another tilt sometime).

• most viewed articles on Wikipedia - I came across it at the Shakespeare FAC. enjoy -very amusing list. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:01, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template

List template is clever but wouldn't it be better if the parameter was number of columns rather than just creating a new column at 25/50/etc. A bt like reflist 2 template. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:03, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Makelist

Hey. If your userpage is correct, you are highly experienced with templates. Tell me what you think of Template:makelist and some of its sister templates, mentioned on its page. I'd appreciate a second take on this. Thanks for your time. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 03:14, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

IHMO, the ideal template would take an integer as the number of items in each column. Such template would replace makelist50 and makelist100. But the code would be long and ugly. The alternative way of control - by the number of columns - like Template:Makelist is now, does not work in IE.

Before we proceed further, may I ask what are the use cases for this? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 05:32, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Josh I deleted the 50 and 100 templates as you asked. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:09, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, sure. Except for that I dont exactly know what you mean by the 'use cases'. If you could define that in terms I can better comprehend, then I should be able to tell you. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:13, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

And I know why this doesnt function in IE. Check the div class at the top of the temp. It is programmed for moz. If you know of a way to alter this without changing much, that would be excellent, and id be very grateful. Thanks again, -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, it's the programmer in me talking. I guess what I'm trying to ask is on what articles do you intend to use this template? I don't know of a way to specify the number of columns that works in IE. Perhaps it's just technically infeasible. Sorry, can't help much there. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 09:41, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'd imagine that it would prove quite useful in almost any instance where a list is needed, specifically in the format designed. I was thinking of incorporating # into the temp with #switch: parserfunction, and perhaps make the temp more diverse to allow for a great many possible formats to accommodate any situation involving lists. And its ok about IE. I guess I'll have to live with that. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 09:44, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I've struck a big bump. The temp doesnt work. Watch this in the source:

Take a look at the source. Its not appearing. Please, your expertise would be great. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 13:07, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I've discovered that list items with 4 characters or less appear, but anymore just create a big space. I cant figure it. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 15:18, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I believe an item does not render when there is no article/redirect that matches the item. For example,

{{Makelist|1|China|India|Chinaa|Indiaa}}

renders

#ifexist means whether or not an article exists. If you want to determine whether or not a variable to the template exists, use something like #if {{{3|}}}. I did not change the template myself because I thought #ifexist could be what you really intend? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 08:45, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

meta:Help:ParserFunctions may not be as interesting as Harry Potter, but it is a great reference when running into trouble. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 08:47, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infrangible Seal of Approval

		This user is OK!
		You are hereby awarded the Infrangible seal of approval for outstanding contributions and overall coolness. ~ Infrangible 17:23, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Templates

Some of your templates ({{rwc}} and the {{makelist}} series, for starters) seem rather pointless - would you like to explain where you're going with these? --Random832 00:16, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I'll clarify - the makelist series seems pointless because the wiki markup for lists, even multicolumn lists, is not complex. The repetitive list one might be useful, but the others aren't. {{rwc}} is problematic because placing the tags side by side does not reduce space (since they are squished horizontally to be taller vertically), because it makes it difficult to remove just one or two of the three, and because few articles have all three problems (neither of the articles that were tagged with it when i saw them deserved the 'wikify' part, and one did not deserve 'cleanup' either since it was a reasonably good stub) --Random832 01:29, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thank you for your support in my successful RfA. I appreciate the trust you and the WP community has in me. Carlossuarez46 21:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thank you for your comments on my unsuccessful RfA. I appreciate the trust you and the WP community have in me; however, this time around things just didn't work out. TomStar81 (Talk) 22:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] My Report at WP:UFA

Hi AD. Per the username page if not a blatant violation, then only list here if the user has begun editing which they had. Username is not blatant but calling your account "havoc" in some way and then making havoc bodes badly. As it happens the account has made no further edits, so I'm leaving it for the admin who reviews to decide if it's borderline and kept. And before you ask, I did not consider discussing the name with the editor, due to their first edits being vandalism. And you appreciate I use templates to warn - three blankings is hardly likely to be accidental, but I don't believe in jumping straight in with a test 4 . Cheers ! Pedro |  Chat  15:18, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi AD - when I say test1 I mean a test1 vandal warning - I can't really say that three page blankings are "tests" - they're not. But protocol says don't jump straight in with all guns blazing. It's a judgement call and a tricky one - leave them to vandal, revert it and go to AIV or nip it in the bud as a combination of things - i.e. slightly dodgy username but probably borderline okay, coupled with three page blankings looks unlikely to be good faith. As you rightly say - forsight is the word. It's a balance of WP:AGF and WP:Don't assume good faith to the point of ignoring things that look pretty dodgy !! As you say, the account seems to have stopped so i suspect the admin for th epage will ignore it - but I don't personally like to remove reports there or AIV - if you want to however please do ! Cheers!! Pedro |  Chat  15:35, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Further - just saw the block - check the guys talk page - he was blocked for his username so I'm confused about you comment regarding not enough warnings ??? Pedro |  Chat  15:35, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

• Replied fully on user talk. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 16:39, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question on Gears of War GA review

Just trying to work on improving a few things from the GA review that you gave to Gears of War. Where, do you recall, were we having too much OR (which you gave a neutral grade to)? Are there sections that could use more verifiable references, or other aspects? Thanks again for the GA grade. --Masem 17:08, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD discussion

Given you've been helping with lion you may want to have some input here.cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:58, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

PS: Please input into capitalization debate on lion talk page. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:03, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:makelist - series

Wow. That was a very deductive thing you did. Well done. if you, as experienced as you are, could make the necessary changes to the template, I would be extremely appreciative. And I will take a look at the parser functions page. Harry Potter is interesting, but I guess I'll have to leave that til later (just joking ;). -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 09:50, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I have made the change so that it can display non-existing pages. I also took the liberty of taking off [[ ]] from the template. This is done so that people can choose to display [[Adam Smith (politician)|Adam Smith]] if desired. However, this change is not backward-compatible. Each item now must be added with [[ ]]. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 04:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I wonder if it is possible, to make things easier, if we could make it an optional parameter to have all list items linked? -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 06:28, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Again, pardon my late reply. What if I make the template to behave like what it did before (shows only when an article/redirect exists) by default, and have an optional parameter to override so that it behaves using the new code? How's this sound? The only catch is that the template code will be almost twice as long. I'm hesitant to make two separate templates because I hope to reuse the style control at the top. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 20:35, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John Wylde

Trying to shorthand it in the article obviously doesn't make for good communication. My question with regard to the Supreme Court is: what are new and old Supreme Courts? Sessions of the Supreme Court? Buildings? Why did Wylde cease to be a judge when the new one was "opened"? You might also want to look at the capitalisation in the article. I suspect Supreme Court and Chief Justice at least are normally capitalised when used as titles. Cheers, Yomangani^talk 11:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

• Replied on user talk. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 12:06, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 20 July 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John Wylde, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Yomangani^talk 12:54, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:SkyBot 1

Have you considered usurping SkyBot for your bot? The account has no edits and no log entries, as required for usurpation. Just a thought. — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 15:22, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for your prompt review

I am very pleased with the results! ^_^ Johnnyfog 16:29, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Malta related article at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St John's Square

Dear member of WikiProject Malta, I'd like to invite you to participate in an ongoing Article for Deletion debate about St John's Square in the capital of Malta. We'd like your input about whether the article should stay and go (and if you want to expand the stub, that would be great too!) All the best, Eliz81^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:20, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Admin coaching

Are you still looking for an admin coach?

If so, leave me a message either here or on my Talk Page.

--Richard 17:24, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Well I suppose an admin coach would be great! I feel that I do know policy fairly well now, but i think a coach could help me stay directed until I have another RFA around September. If you could coach me, I would be very grateful. Thanks! -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 23:16, 20 July 2007 (UTC) Hi AD,

Can I call you AD? It's easier to type than "Anonymous". I've looked at your previous RFA. It seems the major objection was your mistakes in tagging articles for speedy deletion. Do you feel that you have addressed this issue?

As for admin coaching in general, what objectives do you have for this interaction? Given that you feel you have an adequate grasp of policy, how can I help you?

Finally, do you intend to prepare for the next RFA or do you plan mostly to keep on editing until you feel it's time to re-submit?

--Richard 07:15, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi again. Yes, I dont mind when people call me AD. I myself get tired of typing it up :). In answer to your questions:

1. I feel that, after my RFA, and after warnings about this issue that I received even after my RFA, I have burned the CSD right into my skull, and that there would not be an issue in this area anymore. The problem I see is convincing people that the concern has been addressed, which is something I cant see how I can do. Maybe that is one way you can help me - by fixing this concern - in the m inds of everybody else.
2. I feel I do know most of the core policies well, and often cite them when proving a point in discussions. However, there may be areas of policy i have not explored, areas that can become apparent when I am subject to a policy question I find myself unable to answer. That is, I guess, how you can help me: by seeing where my weak points are policy and administration wise, and helping me to fix them up, and be able to correctly answer questions relating to these weak points.
3. Lastly - I am not entirely sure how I can prepare, what preparations I need, after having trying to address the issues of the last RFA, and after seeking an admin coach. I guess that asking for a coach was asking to be prepared, in a way.

Cheers, -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:16, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi Josh (I finally looked at your User Page),

Well, there are two philosophies about preparing for RFA. Some people believe that you should not prepare at all but should just become such a great editor that somebody else nominates you because you're such a great guy.

Then there's the school I subscribe to that says that good admins are made, not born. I will assume that you have read all the material that is linked to from the WP:RFA page.

My first advice to you is that you read a bunch of RFA's regularly. In particular, periodically look at the RFA table that is posted on WP:BN and find the RFAs that are in the marginal range. In other words, don't bother with RFAs that are over 80% support or under 40% support. Look for RFAs with 50-70% support. These will be the pretty good candidates who are getting opposed for one reason or another. Learn what those reasons usually are and make it a goal that nobody will be able to oppose you for any of the reasons those guys are getting opposed.

Also, look at the optional questions that are asked of the RFA candidates. You won't be able to predict and prepare for every question that could be asked of you but you can prepare for some of the more commonly asked ones.

If you really want to prepare, take a copy of User talk:Richardshusr/RFA questions and answer the questions in your own words.

Finally, the best way to get noticed and recognized is to participate either in RFA or xfD discussions. Me personally, I much prefer AFD to anything else but any of the xFD discussions is a worthwhile endeavor. Just make sure that you engage your brain and avoid "me, too" type votes. People will come to know you and respect you if you can make a substantive contribution to these discussions.

That's all I have to say for now. Feel free to ask me any questions as they arise.

--Richard 08:44, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thank you for participating in My RfA which closed successfully. I am honored and truly more than a little humbled by the support of so many members of the community. It's more than a bit of a lift to see comments on my behalf by so many people that I respect. I'll do my best to not disappoint you or the community. - Philippe | Talk 20:24, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Orangemonster2k1 to Neutralhomer Usurp

It can't be done at all? - NeutralHomer ^T:C 02:45, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] that username

I understand why you're reporting it. But generally 1. old usernames usually seem to go through RFCU; 2. it's inactive, so probably irrelevant anyway, and 3. it's distinctive enough see user:Can't sleep, clown will eat me, for example. I'm just putting my takes there. Reviewing admin can send it to RFCU. Cheers, Flyguy649 ^talk _contribs 03:16, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually, you can send it to RFC/N (not C/U... that'll get ya check user, I think) yourself. Generally, they want you to have attempted dialogue about the name first. Since I don't have a problem with it, I'm probably not going to engage the user in dialogue about it, so it's kind of in your corner. I'm going to remove it from the report page though. I really do encourage you to take it to RFC/N if you feel strongly about it. That's one that's likely to trigger a rather interesting debate, and I'd be intrigued to read it. - Philippe | Talk 03:55, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] GAN

You had a review tag placed under the nomination of Ross Noble for four days. I hope you don't mind, but I went ahead and failed the article, as per WP:LEAD, and due to the tone of the prose. Regards, NSR77 ^T_C 23:59, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Thats fine. I have actually been a bit ill over the last four or five days, and haven't had much time to edit, only being able to check my messages and maybe discuss a few things. You probably did me a favour by reviewing the article for me, so thanks for that. Cheers, -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 00:02, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. Hope you feel better. Best wishes, NSR77 ^T_C 00:03, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On July 25, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Joshua John Moore, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks again Anonymous. I was rather shocked by your comments on WT:RFA claiming that I was a good article writer. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My Editor Review

Thanks for reviewing me! --Boricuaeddie 04:24, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and congrats on the DYK! --Boricuaeddie 04:24, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Userpage design request

Hi! Couldn't help but notice your request on Phaedriel's talkpage. First of all, you've a lovely page design. Regarding your userpage design request, is this what you require? Check it out and let me know. Thing is, I dunno much about userpages and their designs. I simply live off common creativity. :) Hope I've not bothered you. aJCfreak yAk 08:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. It's always a pleasure... :) And of course, you can copy the content directly to your userpage. Dunno why, but ever since I stole Phaedriel's design, I love fiddling around with userpages, if I can. :) Happy Wiki-ing! aJCfreak yAk 08:27, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

It's done. I had to move your edit count and edit summary usage cos I didn't know how else to do it. :D (The visual on the userpage is the same, though). Hope you like it! aJCfreak yAk 08:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

He he. Glad to have made your day, Josh. Btw, I honestly don't think that awarding the barnstar for this small deed is warranted. However, I'll wear it proudly! :P aJCfreak yAk 08:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A Featured Article

Josh - One thing it'd be good to have a go at before being nominated for admin is a Featured Article (either on own or with a few people (as per Lion though it has stalled a little bit) or part of a Wikiproject) Working on FAs is one of my favourite things on WP. It looks good on yer wiki-CV when you're nominated....cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:41, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Forget starting from scratch, though many are small. I've never done one from scratch but I'll nominate Banksia ericifolia in the near future, which I did start from zip. A good one is something you'll know (or can find out alot) about. How about Gosford, New South Wales or Central Coast, New South Wales? Compare it with a Featured Article of similar scope on a city or area, say Hamersley, Western Australia for a suburb or Jerusalem for a city (I picked this as it was the most recent I can think of). Or maybe sport or whatever. There will be something reasonably broad you can do - pick up one of those local hisotry books on a place - not sure where you are on the central coast but maybe somewhere else is more relevant. Big well known animals are easy as many have loads of refs online - layout headings like one of the others and away you go. A few of us would be happy to chp in if you decide on one, the process is layout, then loads of info, then write lead, then when you're pretty sure you've got all the inof and refs, a copyedit, and tehre's a few cool poeple who'll help with that. good luck.....cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:01, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

As I said, I'm sure Yomangani, Clayoquot and I will be happy to help; there are a bunch of aussies who will help for an Aussie article. Finally, Circeus is a great copyeditor to give it a last lookover before FAC, he'll pretty much find anything odd with the prose there is to find. Let's see what you come up with. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:16, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

No probs...Australia is already a Featured Article but lookng a bit rusty. I wouldn't be surpirsed if someone nominates it fro FAR sometime soon....now....New South Wales...there's an idea.....cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:25, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm...not a bad article at all! I agree this is not a bad one to get there. The structure isn't too bad and I will make some to-do notes on the talk page. I started copyediting but this should be left until a bit more is added and removed. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:32, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

• Here is some helpful stuff on Table of Contents - play away :) cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:29, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your userpage

Dear Anonymous Dissident,

As Daniel stated on my talk page it is actually his design and not mine so therefore it is him who you should thank, however if you would like I can design your userpage for me if you tell me what colors you would like and give me a brief outline of what you would like me to do, or if you want to do it yourself you can. Your userpage looks very similar to Wikihermit's (your secret is safe with me ). Its up to you, leave me a note when you've decided.....— Rlest 09:38, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Well leave everything you want on it at (the currently non-existent) User:Rlest/Sandbox including text, colors and if you can decide images and I'll work on it this afternoon. Regards, — Rlest 10:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More Malta related stuff

Hi there AD, if you have the time and inclination, would you mind checking out Special:Contributions/BONGU SEAN and check out the pages the user's created on Malta? They're not very encyclopedic in tone, and I can't judge notability for places in Malta, so I thought you might know what to do with them. Thanks! Eliz81^{(talk)(contribs)} 02:58, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for going through the contributions, with or without the Malta expertise. I really appreciate it, I found it too daunting! :) Eliz81^{(talk)(contribs)} 03:16, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:makelist - series

I saw what you did just a few minutes ago. Excellent! Genius! Its really good. Thanks a great deal for your hard work. Cheers! -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 03:51, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome! =) Enjoy! --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 03:55, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:SSP

I was thinking about it, but wanted to hear an admin opinion first. —AldeBaer 06:35, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Manfred

You can leave it where it is until somebody does create the article for the Ford Madox Brown version, at which point it can either be moved and a disambiguation page made, or disambiguation links put on the top of each article. I would say the Brown version is the more famous of the two: I have this on my list to do, as soon as I can find a decent analysis. The Martin version is one of his weaker pieces in my opinion, somewhat derivative of The Bard, but that's neither here nor there in the WP world. Yomangani^talk 11:13, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Userpage....

Is being started now. — Rlest (formerly Qst) 11:57, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Y Done. — Rlest (formerly Qst) 13:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Feeling Better?

You feeling any better yet buddy? Anyway keep up the edits! andrewrox424 ^Bleep 02:57, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I went back on wednesday till p2 (maths ugh) and today, don't worry I don't think you've missed out on much. Get better, you've probably made 1000+ edits the past week! Oh and no more smythy lol. andrewrox424 ^Bleep 12:55, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question

What is the current time in Australia? — Rlest (formerly Qst) 10:31, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Its only 11:35 in the morning all across England. . — Rlest (formerly Qst) 10:36, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah on the Friday, — Rlest (formerly Qst) 10:39, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Aww thank you....much appreciated . — Rlest (formerly Qst) 10:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Original Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		I noticed that your edits were impressive and so I've decided to award you this Original barnstar! Wikidudeman (talk) 13:52, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dusky Woodswallow GA

I have passed the Dusky Woodswallow GA, with comments left on the talk page. Cheers, Corvus coronoides _{talk 15:02, 27 July 2007 (UTC)}

[edit] Fudgie_Frottage article

Please revisit the AfD page [[3]] and article to see if your vote might change. Benjiboi 22:19, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ToC floating

I am afraid a "large, unfilled (and [...] unfillable) space" is not exactly a compelling reason to move the ToC anywhere. It's certainly never been one in a Featured Article candidacy that I can think of. If featured articles like (to take recent examples) Constitution of Belarus, Battle of Arras (1917), Plug-in hybrid and Technology of the Song Dynasty can go with their Table of Contents there, I'm sure History of poison can.

In general, if a table of content is so long as to be decidedly unwieldy (and I wouldn't consider this one to be), we use contracted ToC (e.g. the alphabetical ones), we make special one on a case-by-case basis (e.g. List of townships in Illinois by county), or we consider reworking or forking the article (I can see a number of "weak" headers) rather than break the normal usage model of the page. Moving the ToC to an unexpected place is about as disruptive to usability as suddenly switching to a left-sided layout (Never mind the different language. You get the point.) would be. Circeus 00:38, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

As a quick glance I'd recommend looking at the place where you haves headers following each others. Either you can easily add text between, or remove one. Look also at the one-paragraph sections. Usually these can be either expanded, or merged into their parent section. just doing that should significantly reduce the size of the ToC and help in structuring the article.

Then, rework the last part. If you have tot title a section "Poison in other cultures today," it demonstrate a severe issue in the way the writing and structure are focused: when you look at it, it's not difficult to realize the article overlooks two thousand years of non-European history! (There are also issues with the way poison has been written that make this article very difficult to integrate into it, but that's not the problem here. I'm just commenting on it.)

If you are still iffy with the whitespace, here's an idea: It's become quite popular to use that space to place navigational templates. An option is to make {{Poisoning and toxicity}} into a more rounded template for an article series (I can even poke around to do it myself.I like mucking with templates). How does that sound? Circeus 01:06, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Haha - nevermind, I've been a bit busy so will check back later - Never done a list (Circeus has I think) but I like the idea of List of Australian birds and will put it on my to-do page to remind us once a couple of other things attended to...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:25, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I haven't actually gotten a list promoted by myself (it's my aim with List of mammals of Canada, though.), but I have done some reviewing at FLC (but I think you knew that.) Circeus 01:33, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for your support at my recent Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Angus Lepper RfA, which failed, with no consensus to promote me. However, I appreciate the concerns raised during the course of the discussion (most notably, a lack of experience, particularly in admin-heavy areas such as XfDs and policy discussions) and will attempt to address these before possibly standing again in several months time. Angus Lepper^{(T, C, D)} 16:03, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Apple River Fort

I noticed you created the Battle of Apple River Fort, or are still creating it anyway. You might be interested in a collaboration between another user and I. I have a collaboration page at User:IvoShandor/Black Hawk War where I am trying to sort through information and compile sources. One word of warning, this stuff happened so long ago that it is common to find varying accounts and details in different sources, I usually just talk about the differences in the article myself. If you are aware of anything I have noted here just disregard this message. Hope to see you at the collaboration page. : ) IvoShandor 21:17, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Got your message so I will respond in two parts, one about Apple River and the other about DYK

Apple River Fort: I have compiled a few sources for you, if you are interested. Check them here. I would also recommend going over Frank Stevens 1903 book The Black Hawk War, which is available online here (hopefully not a temp link, if it is, just go to the NIU site posted on that user page I linked above and search through the primary source material, you'll find it. Read carefully, compare what Stevens says with what modern sources say about the battle. This topic is one that I know quite a bit about (living in Northern Illnois and being what amounts to a historian who doesn't get paid to be a historian {read: almost has degree--haha}, so if you need a second opinion about anything let me know. I can't think of anything else right now, maybe that I will keep looking for better sources, the ones on my user page are just somewhere to start (we can fill in the blanks as we go). Also, just curious, what was your impetus for starting the Apple River Fort page? (just curious-your work is much appreciated).

DYK: Well last week I grew rather frustrated with DYK and imposed a bit of a self-exile, it lasted about 2 days, I just cannot resist. In particular I had grown frustrated with the often unhelpful and condescending nature of many of the comments I had seen there related to people's hard work and suggested hooks. So I withdrew from everything DYK related, including the list, I just haven't added myself back yet, I will eventually, I think maybe I am just waiting to collect the four DYKs I have nominating so I won't have to update the numbers for a bit. : ) Thanks for asking, I will be back though. IvoShandor 12:40, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to bombard you here but the band of Sauk and Fox that attacked the fort were the same band that attacked Major John Dement's detachment at Kellogg's Grove on June 25, that is known as the Second Battle of Kellogg's Grove. I believe that Chief Black Hawk was present at both battles and commanded the forces for the Native American alliance. This is something I am working to confirm through modern-day sources, meaning peer-reviewed academic journals and the like. I want to somehow work this information into the Kellogg's Grove battle article but had planned to see how they related when I researched Apple River, which, since you created the article and are working on it as well, it seems like now would be a good time to commence said undertaking. : ) IvoShandor 12:50, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My username

Greetings, human!

I must say I have not anticipated that my "username" here would have caused any problems (blame my perspective of your world for this). However, since "Ψ-113μ" (Psi - 133 mu) is simply the prime part of my designation (no hidden meanings), I would be very reluctant to changing it, because it is about as much that identifies me as an individual. I have done some research on this and came up with a conclusion that most modern software (that you call "web browsers") should handle rendering Greek characters visually without issues. Therefore the problem "boils down" to the (in-)ability to input it with the contraption you call "keyboard". My ideas are therefore as follow: I would create the account User:Psi-133mu and redirect it to mine own. Then, I would modify my signature so as the Ψ part points to the transliterated userpage (therefore providing you with a Latin equivalent), while the 113μ part will keep pointing at my talk page directly as it does now (so the tie with my real account is retained). Let me know if it is a satisfiable compromise for you. (Although I would also point out that I am not wishing to give up any further.) All Best, Ψ-113μ 09:22, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Done as agreed then. I hope for a fruitful cooperation in the future. "Incidents" such as this one teach me a great deal about humans and the differences between us. Thank you and All Best again. Ψ-113μ 09:37, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Apologies for not getting back to you earlier - I had to perform a self-diagnostic.

Indeed I am not a human. However, conversely to what you suggest, I am not from Pluto either (that celestial body (I know you don't call it a planet anymore) does not currently support biological life of any kind). I am an extraterrestial artificial intelligence, designed specifically for being hosted on locally available processing units (ones you call "computers"). As such I am prone to errors (like registering a User:Psi-133mu instead of User:Psi-113mu like I intended - a word of information: the 133 was a flawed design that never left the design phase) just as humans are - hence the self-diagnostic subroutines that continuously scan my artificial neural networks for glitches. I will correct the username error now.

As of the categorization you suggested, I'll look into it. Although I fail to see the need for such a category should I be the only one to occupy it. Ψ-113μ 11:32, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wow.

Keep up the good work. You're really good at writing, especially for a twelve year old! -Anthony- 09:51, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Hey, thanks for the barnstar! I'm not sure exactly what I did to deserve it, but oh well! Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 10:33, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Also, I just noticed, there are other people a similair age to me who are decent contributors - more proof that age doesn't mean people cant be good contributors :-). Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 10:37, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, i'm of a similair age. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 20:58, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cheers mate!

I realized I've never thanked you properly for your work on Wikipedia, so here goes...

		The Anon. D. Award
		I hereby award Anonymous Dissident this award for his illuminating qualities shown on Wikipedia, such as civility, assuming good faith etc. and for his unprecedented contributions to the mainspace, which is rare if not phenomenal for one so young... --Dark Falls talk 10:58, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Raine Island

Congrats on the DYK - may I draw your attention to the Australian place name conventions? In the page for Category:Islands on the Great Barrier Reef it states that "Islands should be disambiguated as necessary using name (state) or where there are more one island with that name in that state name (closer locality).". So if there are other Raine Islands in the world, the name for the Queensland island should be Raine Island (Queensland), and Raine Island should become a disambiguation page. If there are no other Raine Islands, then I'd be quite cheerful about a merger from Raine Island (Queensland) into Raine Island. It could just be that the other islands on the GBR are unimaginatively-named. I'm sorry, but I can't seem to see in WP:MERGE the part that says 'if one page is better than the other, the lesser page should get merged into the better page' or somesuch... Thanks for getting the Great Barrier Reef on the front page - perhaps you'd be interested in helping out on that page sometime? -Malkinann 13:12, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you! :)

Thank you for your beautiful words and warm wishes on my birthday, dear friend! I took a well-deserved one-day wikibreak and spent it with my family and my friends... and actually had a beer after months of forced abstinence! :) Of course, there's no way I'd forget about you, so I saved a great, tasty piece of chocolate cake just for you - but sorry, no beer left! Again, thank you so much for taking the time to wish me well, and have a wonderful day, dear Josh! Love, Phaedriel - 08:37, 30 July 2007 (UTC) Fantastic new userpage you have there, dear Josh! I got your message, but I saw you were well assisted by then, and hey, all's well that ends well! ;) Seriously now, thank you so much for taking the time to wish this friend of yours here a happy bday. The smile you gifted me will stay with me for a long, long time. Thankee friend! xxx, Sharon

[edit] 1962 South Vietnamese Presidential Palace bombing

Hi. I think I have gotten some more books for you. Unfortunately, the bombings were not planned in particular detail, so most books have the info, except that it is in excerpts of 2 pages, so each book is only reffed one distinct time. Thanks, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:51, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your VandalSniper Application

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[edit] Reply to Josh

Hi Josh,

Am impressed to hear from someone so young and obviously talented. You seem to know your way about Wikipedia: I don't and have just made my first contribution, being a retired scientist. Does what I have written make complete sense to you or does the article raise more questions than it answers?

Keep up the good work, Josh.

ed--Edward Willhoft 11:13, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Response to Anonymous Dissident

Hi Josh,

Have just read your response to previous attempts at seeking clarification. At what point in time does the article get accessed through Wikipedia search engine?

Thanks

ed--Edward Willhoft 11:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for clear help info

Just starting to get the hang of the Wiki--Edward Willhoft 11:34, 30 July 2007 (UTC) procedures. Am grateful for your help.

ed

[edit] Another question!

Do personal messages only come through if one is logged in?

ed

--Edward Willhoft 11:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Manfred

I'd rename both of the articles to be Manfred on the Jungfrau (<date>) and put a disambiguation page at Manfred on the Jungfrau. Yomangani^talk 15:30, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYKs

On 31 July 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Manfred on the Jungfrau, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On 31 July 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Manfred on the Jungfrau (Brown painting), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Espresso Addict 01:00, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hi, Anonymous Dissident, and thanks for your participation in my RfA. I've withdrawn it, and will be writing up an "analysis" of it, which will soon be available at User:Giggy/RfA/Giggy when it's done. Please come around when you get the chance, and give me feedback on how I can improve. Thanks again, Giggy _U^CP 04:06, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help

Hi Josh,

I need some guidance. I have already submitted a short article "Hazards of Soft Drinks", although there's no sign of it when searching the Wikipedia index. It is listed under "my contributions". I also expanded someone else's article on Tonic Water drawing attention to the carcinogenic breakdown product of quinine. That was immediately incorporated. I didn't sign the addition since it simply added to someone else's contribution. It starts a new para with drawing attention to the effects of UV light on tonic water - that's fine.

However, I am concerned at my not having adhered to the correct procedure for submitting a new article (as above) and therefore, it not getting stored for access by others. Today I produced a subsection of the "Hazards" article which, arguably, could be started as a new one. How do I go about this without possibly repeating an error in submission which I might have done with the first article? Also, in attempting to submit the Hazards article I inadvertantly submitted it twice according to "my contributions". Is one automatically removed by the system or am I expected to do that?

Hope this isn't keeping you up!

Regards

ed--Edward Willhoft 10:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Military history of Gibraltar

Hi and thanks for your message. Just yesterday I requested a peer review to try and get some feedback on where and how to improve it. The suggestions by the automated review were actually quite helpful and I followed up on them. Do you think it would be a better idea to leave the review on for a few more days before nominating? I don’t mind rewriting or correcting anything really, and I need to redraft the lead anyhow. Chris Buttigieg 11:26, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Yea, that's probably a better idea. I'm working on the lead section now, thanks for your help. Chris Buttigieg 13:39, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HoP

I don't really want to dishearten you, but I think trying to get History of Poison to FA is a mammoth task. The topic is just too wide and poorly defined. Why not break it up into articles on the history of poisoning in x region and try taking one of those sub-articles to FA? Even the history of poison as a political tool in Europe would make an interesting article. If you do want to continue with HoP as a candidate List of poisonings may be helpful (I noticed it doesn't mention Socrates, and there is a nice picture of him doing away with himself by Jacques-Louis David if you can get hold of it). Yomangani^talk 12:50, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I just saw it is in the Socrates article. Yomangani^talk 12:52, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually josh I was musing this myself - or HoP chronologically - in ancient times/middle ages /modern times etc. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:26, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

PS: This is why a concise well-defined topic is often easier to get to FA....but its all a learning process and the article has leapt along a bit. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:27, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Chronological articles would be difficult as they suffer from the same organizational problems as the overview HoP does. When you hit modern times and you still have curare being used in some places, it is hard to tie it all together. Even History of poisoning in Europe will have this problem to some extent, as you'll have to make decisions on when to shift between chronology and geography. Yomangani^talk 23:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Gah...oh well..there's always a nice cuddly lion....but seriously Josh if you got a book on poisoning see how they lay it out - some natural divisions may come up which give rise to a defined topic worth working up (Shakespearian England/Classical Greece-Rome/Rennaissance are 3 that come to mind because of several notable intrigues within them)cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:07, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Apples

I guess I overwhelmed you on Apple River Fort. Don't worry, feel free to work on it, I will be around to help out, there's some sources I found posted in my user space. IvoShandor 13:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My recent questions to you

Have now worked out how to go about it. But would still be interested in your considered best approach. As you know well there are different ways of achieving a result and it's always useful to hear of the best approach by someone who's done this several times: avoids reinventing the wheel!

Hope you had a good night's sleep.

ed

Sorry forgot to signature prev note to you!

ed--Edward Willhoft 15:43, 31 July 2007 (UTC)