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Contents 1 User:TR5000 2 RfA thanks 3 The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXI (November 2007) 4 User page 5 Signpost updated for December 3rd, 2007. 6 ~*Yay*~ 7 A quick question for a pointer 8 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:S43.jpg 9 The Death of Hyacinthos 10 User:209.7.38.1 11 IRC 12 Unprotect 13 Just so you know... 14 Request for page protection 15 Voisin-Farman I 16 The Great Day of His Wrath 17 Obliged to ask about Jeff Wilson (cartoonist) 18 WP:LOTD 19 Deletion of article "Mehrunes Dagon" 20 Quick question 21 Signpost updated for December 10th, 2007. 22 Stephane Grappelli 23 Query 24 Quick question 25 why are you reverting my input on Nyngan? and calling it a test?! 26 Article work 27 Speedy! 28 LOL! Catching up with me, eh? 29 Merry Christmas 30 Reichspost "logo" 31 Wael abbas DRV 32 Signpost updated for December 17th, 2007. 33 Barnstar 34 RCFN 35 DYK 36 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 37 AfD closure of Lucy Hannah 38 Break 39 DYK for Wilhelm Ohnesorge 40 User talk protection 41 RfA Thanks 42 Email 43 DYK late 44 Global Warming 45 ==Season's Greetings== 46 RfA thanks 47 heh 48 Signpost updated for December 26th, 2007. 49 Volapük again 50 RfA thanks 51 DYK 52 Early aircraft 53 Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka 3

[edit] User:TR5000

I noticed you warned User:TR5000 a week ago after he vandalized my user page. He is responsible for the hoax article Path unseen, which was previously deleted several months ago after I tagged it, but which was apparently recreated by TR5000 shortly afterward. This time he has packed it with authoritative-sounding print references, but actually reading the article makes it clear that it is a hoax. I recommend that this editor be blocked indefinitely, as this is the most subversive and dangerous variety of vandalism (quite unlike his "poop" vandalism to my userpage), capable of surviving for remarkable periods of time and fooling many people. Everyking 07:32, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Hilariously, Conservapedia is hosting another of his former hoaxes, Markwel Scott. As you can see, the initial version of his hoax was not nearly as cleverly done as the current one. I am inclined to let Conservapedia keep the hoax, since it fits in nicely with the rest of their content, but we have to do something about it over here. Everyking 07:41, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Blocked. I assume the lot of his hoax pages are now removed? And yes - hoax pages seem to fit quite well in Conservapedia. Regards, -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 03:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

Dear Anonymous Dissident, Thank you for supporting in my recent RfA. Words nor pictures can express my heartfelt appreciation at the confidence the community has shown me. I am both heartened and humbled by this confidence. I will carry the lessons learned from the constructive criticism I have received with me as I edit Wikipedia, and heed those lessons. Special thanks to Pedro and Henrik as nominators. Special thanks to Rudget who wanted to. A very special thanks to Moonriddengirl for her eloquence. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 17:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] User page

Hello AD :) I was pointed in your direction by Daniel. I'd like a good looking userpage: I'm rather new and not very familiar with wikitext (although I'm getting better as I go). I have looked at yours and Riana's, and was wondering if you had any tips for me. Thanks. Redrocketboy 22:49, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

If you were to sort of give me an abstract idea of what you are looking for, I might be able to help. However, please be aware, I'm not really the designer of my userpage - that's User:Qst. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 06:37, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll add some more stuff to it so more can be done with it. And I'll speak to Qst. Redrocketboy 12:16, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] ~*Yay*~

Welcome back! Ariel♥Gold 05:22, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

How was camp? Got any pics you might be able to upload to show us? bibliomaniac15 05:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Unfortunately, no pics. I forgot to take my camera :( -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 06:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A quick question for a pointer

Hi, wondering if you could point me somewhere in connection to an edit you made to Philémon (comics), a while ago, a tweak to the reference area that nicely combined the sources:[1]. I have taken to use this "phrasing" when it seems appropriate, but although I've looked around quite a bit, I can't see anything MoS-like that justifies this format if someone were to disagree with it. Surely this wasn' a presedence.. Could you point me to something like that? Cheers, MURGH ^disc. 11:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Uhh, let me see - Johannes Rebmann, The Battle of Alexander at Issus, Göttingen Seven, Dusky Woodswallow.... all of which are GA, all of which use this technique. Cheers, -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 23:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Thats what I hoped for. MURGH ^disc. 13:36, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:S43.jpg

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Y Done AD, I've added a FUR, but I also requested on the article's talk page, that an editor in Germany get a picture that can replace this. Since this structure still exists, replaceability is an issue, as the FU policy states that no reasonable reproduction could be created. So, in this case, it would be best if an editor would go there, and take a photograph. Hope you understand! Ariel♥Gold 06:03, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! I'm not sure I can go to Germany though! ;) Hopefully someone else can, or can somehow get a photo. Thanks again! -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 06:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Death of Hyacinthos

Could you help me de-stubbify this article about a painting? I'm having trouble finding sources to cite. bibliomaniac15 02:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Sure. I'll try and get to it in a few hours, if that's ok - I'm about to go out in like 10 minutes. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 02:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll be out for a few hours too. bibliomaniac15 02:46, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I couldn't really find anything either... -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:18, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

There was one book source, but it only encompassed what we already said. I'm thinking what we could do would be to talk about the subjects and the painter some more. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:209.7.38.1

36 hours, 32 minutes, 1 second? LOL. Corvus cornix_talk 00:10, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I was feeling creative :D -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 00:14, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] IRC

What's your IRC nick, dear? :) Ariel♥Gold 05:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

AnonDiss :D -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Okay, find me next time you're around IRC (ArielGold, naturally lol) Ariel♥Gold 05:18, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unprotect

I'm wondering why you did this. There was such discord over this some months ago - what harm is there in keeping it as a protected redirect? Just wondering. Tvoz |talk 07:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, hopefully the discord is over and no-one will alter the page. If it is editable, and no-one changed it, consensus will be apparent, not only achieved. If it is changed, then an agreement hasn't really been found. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 09:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps so - but please watch for vandalism there as well, as I will, based on past history. Thanks for the reply - I wasn't challenging your decision, just perplexed. Tvoz |talk 17:23, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Just so you know...

I'm not stalking you! LOL. I do, however, of course check your talk page now and then, and somewhere along the line, I saw you had a FAC up. I hope that you won't be upset that I left some comments, and I realize they are very small issues, but I hope that you know the reasons behind them, and know me well enough to know that it has no bearing on your editing. In fact I would never have read the article, were it not for you! So, thank you for that article, even if none of my comments matter! (My first foray into FAC, so I hope I didn't overstep any bounds) Ariel♥Gold 07:43, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Your comments were excellent. If you could, please check back there, and read my reply. I believe everything is fixed, but I'm not 100%. Thanks, -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 10:12, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks so much for understanding. The only remaining issue is the forced oversizing of the images, which I made note of. However, some articles don't go by the recommended format of the MOS, so if you choose not to, the MOS is, after all, just a guideline. ~*Hugs*~ Ariel♥Gold 00:51, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I've fixed that. So - the article has your support, then? :) -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:58, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Looks awesome. I've offered my opinion, but I am not sure how much weight that carries, as I am not a regular participant at FAC. I still think it is an excellent article, very nice, dear! Ariel♥Gold 07:30, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your expression of support. Your comment caries just as much weight as everyone else, if not more, because you offered issues that needed to be addressed before support. Thanks again! :) -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 07:34, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request for page protection

Hi, just wondering if you could please re-evaluate my request to have Jason Collins semi-protected? Take a look at all the recent vandalism by unregistered users. Thanks. Somno (talk) 07:44, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Replied at page. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 09:59, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Apologies - I was under the impression that you were asking for the page fully protected, and, thinking there was an edit war (why I thought that even I cannot fathom), I protected. You were asking for semi-protection, however, it was only one IP, who has now been blocked. If more vandalism from multiple IPs continues, then sprotection will be necessary, but, now, for the time being, considering that the disruptive IP has now been blocked, things should be ok for now. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 10:25, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Voisin-Farman I

Hi - I see that there's still an "inuse" tag on this article. It's been there for three days now and I was just wondering whether you were still working on it? --Rlandmann (talk) 23:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Yep, I have just had only very limited time on my PC of late, because my "main" one is currently in repair (again :() -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 07:08, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Do you mind then if I expand it a little in the meantime? --Rlandmann (talk) 21:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Not at all. Sorry for the late reply. I should be on the job tomorrow, should you yourself not find the time. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 06:15, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Great Day of His Wrath

Hi Anonymous Dissident,

I found a higher quality image of the painting [2]. Since you are sysop on MediaWiki, could you please remove the older version of the image. Thanks --Aminz (talk) 06:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

No, I can't, because it is a file imported from Commons, and I'm not an admin there anyway. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 07:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks anyways. --Aminz (talk) 07:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

No worries. Sorry. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 07:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Anonymous Dissident, the drawing is really impressive. Thanks for creating the article and adding all the information to it. Can such articles possibly become Good Article (GA), BTW? --Aminz (talk) 08:06, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the recognition :) For it to become GA, I expect it would need to be a fair bit larger in content, and be cited to more references. Although, it does have potential, certainly. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Good! I'll probably work on this though I'd guess you've done most of the job already. --Aminz (talk) 08:12, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, that's great, I might chip in some more too. Good luck in going for GA. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:13, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :) --Aminz (talk) 08:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I realized that the original name for the painting has been The End of the World!!! (cf. Michael Wheeler, Heaven, Hell, and the Victorians, Cambridge University Press, 1994, p.83). I guess there should be an interesting story behind this naming :) None of the academic sources I've seen so far mention the explicit connection with the phrase "The Great Day of His Wrath" from the book of revelation, though they say that it is apocalyptic. Kind of strange! Cheers, --Aminz (talk) 10:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Wow! You have done great work with the article. A little more, and this is definitely GA standard stuff! Thanks for finding the real name - a move may now be needed. Cheers, -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 10:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your kind words. I think it needs some more work. I'd like to figure out how and why the name was changed later. BTW, should we use the original name of the painting or the one that is more common (though I don't know which one is more common really)? Cheers, --Aminz (talk) 10:24, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

It appears to me that the later name is more famous because the three sources that mention the previous name all mention the original name in parenthesis. But I am not sure. --Aminz (talk) 10:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

The earlier name should probably be used as article title, because it was the paintings first, true title, and is therefore the encyclopedic choice, I think. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 09:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Would you please take a look at the article and let me know if the article is ready to be nominated for GA. Thanks very much in advance. --Aminz (talk) 00:11, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I think it's ready. :) -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 06:00, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!! --Aminz (talk) 06:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Obliged to ask about Jeff Wilson (cartoonist)

I noticed a few cases of "Removing backlinks to Jeff Wilson (cartoonist) that has been speedily deleted per WP:CSD#G1" on my wachlist, and since no other trail of reason is clear, I can only assume this correctly linked, G1- unsalvageable non-content gibberish? I have absolutely no connection with this article, but looking at the neglected The Avridge Farm, sources turned spam etc, but still, unsalvageable? [3] I'm just curious to what the compelling evidence was. MURGH ^disc. 11:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

If you feel the cartoonist is notable, and you can convey this, then I encourage you to create the article one again. The last version of the article was, in fact, merely slander against him, and so was, indeed, unsalavageable. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, as I indicated above, I have absolutely no knowledge of the person, and since you put it like that, thousands of other articles I'd sooner wish to to start. Having googled the clues enough to feel certain I'd argue for deletion at an AFD, there aren's sufficient/any RS for an article, so the notability requirement isnt met. MURGH ^disc. 13:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:LOTD

You are the nominator of a WP:FL that was promoted in the last month. I am inviting you to participate in nominations and voting in a List of the Day experiment I am conducting at WP:LOTD.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 23:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of article "Mehrunes Dagon"

The Elder Scrolls sereis is one of the most popular RPGs ever so if someone wanted a little background info on the chief enemy of Oblivion they would look on wikipedia right? Well thanks to you one of the main sources of information is lacking something someone might find important.--GARGRAFARR (talk) 05:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Firstly, this article was not in fact an article at all, but rather a redirect to a section of another page. This other page was recently deleted, by me, after I found consensus, following discussion, to delete. "Mehrunes Dagon" was subsequently deleted, because it was a redirect to a page that no longer existed. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quick question

Regarding the attack name (Theonionsucks), should the userpage be removed? I don't think it is outright slander, but, just checking on what would be appropriate. (And thanks for handling it!) Ariel♥Gold 05:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, deleted, although I'm not sure whether it was slightly before or after you sent the message ;) -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:57, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Stephane Grappelli

Stephane Grappelli was one of the greatest jazz violinists of all time and he famously learnt busking.

It's even in his wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St%C3%A9phane_Grappelli

All I tried to do is add his name to the artists that have found fame after their busking in their early life, and you delete my edit without any second thought.

I'm confused... I thought you were trying to help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.172.146.183 (talk) 06:45, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I have never even edited that article. I must say I have no idea what you are talking about. Regards, -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 06:46, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Query

Based on your comments on the CFD on "admins open to recall", I'd like to have your opinion on an alternative idea with somewhat stricter norms. >Radiant< 00:44, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quick question

I noticed that you were a regular on WP:DYK so I'm hoping to trouble you for some advice.

I created an article on Robin Donkin and nominated it for WP:DYK so it could appear on the main page of Wikipedia. The article meets the basic rules and has been vetted but I'm not sure what I need to do next.

Upon reading "How a DYK suggestion makes its way to the Main Page" I came across this: "If the suggested DYK meets the requirements, any editor may add the suggestion to the DYK template next update page and then delete the suggestion from the DYK template talk page."

Am I supposed to add it to the DYK template next update page and then delete the suggestion from the DYK template talk page? What exactly am I supposed to do?

Thanks in advance and sorry for asking probably the most obvious of things and probably appearing stupid. Just that this is the first article that I've created here on WP and I'm not really sure how to get it to the main page for the attention that I think it deserves.

With regards,
Hαvεlok беседа мансарда 20:08, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

No, of course its not a stupid question. What you need to do is place the article under the section referring to the day it was created, on T:TDYK, come up with a fact, and suggest in under the right heading. In a few days time, it will be selected. By the sound of things, you have already done everything but wait. Cheers, -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 21:05, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply,
With regards,
Hαvεlok беседа мансарда 15:28, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] why are you reverting my input on Nyngan? and calling it a test?!

I'm trying to add some content onto the Nyngan page, which is otherwise just a stub. I don't know how much you know about Nyngan to judge that I was not writing genuine content, but I have been there and my husband's family is from there (they had the brickworks which supplied the bricks for most of the old buildings in the town). Let me get on with it!

Explained on talk. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 23:16, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I was in the middle of adding the gallery! Don't be so trigger-happy! I'm a disabled person so I don't work very quickly!

You saved the incorrect format. This is needless. But I am sorry for reverting too quickly. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 23:20, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article work

Hello, I noticed your edit here. It's a really good idea. I want to do a lot more article work than I do - I've been distracted by other things on and off wiki unfortunately. I'm slowly working on Nannie Doss - do you think it has potential to become a good article? Btw, shame about the Napoleon Crossing the Alps painting FAC - is the article a good article, because it surely passes that. Thanks. Redrocketboy 01:43, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

It certainly does have the potential to become a good article. Keep at it, and if you can better source it, it should be great. And yes,m Bonaparte is a good article. Thanks for your comments. Cheers, -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 03:07, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy!

I haven't even finished copy stuff over yet. I won't be as active as I was, and I'm going to concentrate on a single topic (although that's not to say I won't occasionally turn out an article on something else). I'm afraid I was rather heavy-handed with my review of Nappy, but I couldn't let it go through as it was. I've only had a quick look round, but I haven't been able to find anything that deals with that painting in any depth. Do ask if you want any help with it, though I fear I can't be very helpful except at a general level (I still think The Archers has more going for it. Go on, you know you want to.) Yomangani^talk 01:47, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LOL! Catching up with me, eh?

		The Editor's Barnstar
		For your insane number of DYKs and contributions Because I'm 1 ahead of you :) — Dihydrogen Monoxide 06:52, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Bring it on! *starts begging* — Dihydrogen Monoxide 07:00, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Lol, this should turn out funny :P. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 07:08, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merry Christmas

Marlith ^T/C 00:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Marlith! Happy Holidays to you too. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 20:42, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reichspost "logo"

Hello Anonymous! I removed the image you have added to Wilhelm Ohnesorge's article as "irrelevant" for the following reasons: It is not the "logo" of the Reichspost at all, merely a postal office shield featuring the Coat of Arms of the German Empire. There is nothing specific related to the Reichspost on it, except the words "Imperial Postal Office", which refer strictly to the Kaiserreich period (1871-1918). Now, it would be just right in an article about the Reichspost during the Kaiserreich in Germany, but Ohnesorge is notable because of his association with the Third Reich. I am not going to revert your revert, however a picture of him or of something related to the Reichspost during the Weimar or Third Reich eras (when Ohnesorge rose to some prominence and became politically active) would be certainly more appropriate, I think. Cheers and merry Christmas, Cplakidas (talk) 09:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, thank you for your expanation: I thought it was the logo of the postal service. I will remove it.Thank you, and merry Christmas to you too. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 20:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wael abbas DRV

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Wael abbas. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

I hope you don't mind that I'm taking it directly to DRV. It's nothing against you personally. Andjam (talk) 03:29, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Barnstar

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		How you ever find articles to create which have enough information available for DYK I'll never know; however, I award you this Barnstar for your outstanding content contributions, as well as your pledge to do more article work. Qst 20:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, by the way, just incase I don't speak to you before the time comes, have a great Christmas, if you celebrate it, that is — if not then just have a good day on Dec. 25 :-) Qst 20:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

A very merry Christmas to you too Qst, and thanks a lot for the barnstar! (Take that Hidroxide! :P) -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 20:19, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Ouch! Now, either you must give me one, or you can't co-nom. RAWR! (reply on my talk, I never watchlist yours :P) — Dihydrogen Monoxide 08:47, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

LOL! Thanks buddy - although come to think of it, I don't think I'll go to RfA after all. Seems we're even again! — Dihydrogen Monoxide 08:54, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

By the way, I have 34 =/ — Dihydrogen Monoxide 08:55, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

You said 32 originally and I wasn't gonna question that - despite it being 33! Cheers :) — Dihydrogen Monoxide 09:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Ooh, wasn't expecting a reply until later tonight, with it being very early morning in Australia now :) Qst 20:20, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm very rarely an early riser. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 20:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RCFN

... which would be because I didn't actually attempt to close it?  :-) I wanted to let others the opportunity to comment on my action first. — Coren ^(talk) 04:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

A block is closure. By blocking, you are determining that there was consensus to do so in the discussion, therefore ending the discussion. Therefore, if you blocked, the discussion is closed, and you should close it. That's the way RFCN works. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 04:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I guess, although I didn't want to forestall discussion that quickly— moot now since I did close it. — Coren ^(talk) 13:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

The article weather in 2005 has been fixed, can you take a peek? Thanks! Jonathan 22:34, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but the sections themselves are still too stubby, some have no references, and are OR-ish. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] AfD closure of Lucy Hannah

Hi AD

I'm writing about your closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lucy Hannah, which surprised me.

The problem with the article is not that there is any doubt that she existed or that her dates or birth and death are inaccurately recorded, but rather that none of the references is anything other a list entry. That not only fails WP:BIO, it also also means that nearly everything in the article as it stands is unreferenced.

I know that there were more editors favouring a "keep" than a "delete", but per the deletion guidelines, AfD is not a vote; it's supposed to be about weighing arguments.

For comparison, may I draw your attention for example to the rather similar case of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Henry Brett, Jr.. There was a similar lack of non-trivial references, and a slight majority of "keep" votes, but the closing admin noted that the problem with references had not been resolved, so closed as "delete". That closure was upheld at deletion review. (There are other parrallels too, but that one seems strogest because it went to DRV)

May I ask you to reconsider your closure of the Lucy Hannah AfD? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I have done such. I have decided that I will not outright delete, but rather further prolong the discussion. How does this sit with you? -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 21:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I did not consider it a vote, by the way, by no means. Rather the fact that soem people had voted delete, and had switched to keep for various reasons, as well as weighing concerns. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 21:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

There weren't "some people" changing their votes, there was just one (The Evil Spartan), persuaded by the existence of an entry in the Social Security Death Index. As a primary source, that's irrelevant to WP:BIO notability (it also fails as trivial), so the keep recommendations of both Sunpiker and The Evil Spartan should have been discounted. (It's a particularly daft claim because nearly every American who died since 1962 should eventually be somewhere on that index, and we don't count every dead American as notable!)

I suspect that the end result may of the reopened fD be similar: several people saying "keep" because they confuse the notability of the fact of longevity (which is quite properly included in the relevant list) with the separate issue issue of the notability of the person per WP:BIO (because there are some active supercentenarian fans who vote "keep" regardless of how trivial the sourcing). Your reason for closing as "keep" was that "the concerns with referencing are substantial, but there are, in fact, references cited in the article", which ignored WP:BIO's deprecation of trivial directory-style references, which is all there us in this case. I don't want to sound rude, but I don't see think that reopening it will make much difference if it is closed on the same principles. To be honest, I think it would have been more appropriate to have taken it to deletion review, but since you have reopened it, I suppose that it probably has to run :( --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

If you thought that DRV was innevitable, why did you first come to me? I re-listed so that consensus, which, to be honest, I wasn't entirely sure of when I originally closed, could be found in the AFD forum. While you may argue that people confuse policies, we must work on the consensus that is derived from the discussion. Let us see what will result. Anyway -why would people be less confused at DRV? ;) -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 23:48, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I came to you hoping that you would change your mind, and because it's only polite to discuss first rather than going straight to DRV; I hadn't considered delisting. As what the consensus was at the Afd discussion, please do take another look at Wikipedia:Deletion guidelines for administrators#Rough_consensus: "Consensus is not determined by counting heads, but by looking at strength of argument, and underlying policy (if any). Arguments that contradict policy, are based on opinion rather than fact, or are logically fallacious, are frequently discounted". The reason I think that DRV may be needed is that DRV tends to be firmer about rejecting arguments not grounded in policy: there are more policy/guideline wonks there. Anyway, let's see how AfD goes. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:59, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, the AFD may come to the consensus you are looking for, or perhaps different policy will be applied to show that the article should be kept. You argue that there are no sources - unless the creator of the article loves making up stories, the information must have come from somewhere. Remember that AFD is not the only option - why not question the creator of the article, and ask if they can provide sources. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 00:06, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I know you are looking for RS; have you tried looking in google books? There are also several .org sites that I came across while searching. Try different search terms. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 00:07, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Break

I hope your break serves you well, and I hope you enjoy your holidays with the ones you love. I hope to see you back at Wikipedia soon, and hope you feel more up to editing under such conditions! I totally understand what you mean by the atmosphere here, it's not nice, is it? I'm not really enjoying editing lately either, though I can't really put my finger on why. Merry Christmas, and see you in 2008! Jack?! 00:37, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for wishing me well. I think I will return when I find myself wanting to, which could be any length of time, but which I know probably won't be terribly long away. I feel oddly like I'm tired, in the way like I want to rest and go to bed for a while, and then wake up to a bright, fresh day with the sun shining... -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 00:41, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I too hope to see you back here, but only when you are ready and you want to be. When you return, be sure to pace yourself, and only throw yourself into the editing and the administrator tasks that you actually find yourself enjoying. All the best, Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:48, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes we need a break, to both refresh our old perspective and gain a new perspective as well. Either way, you'll be missed on he Wiki. Hope all is A-OK, and have a great WikiBreak. Maser ^(Talk!) 01:09, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I tearfully say "goodbye" too. I am also leaving, but sadly, I won't be able to return. I've had a nice 3 weeks here, but too many people know too much it seems, so I cannot continue here. All the very best, your good friend, Redrocketboy 01:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

*huggles AnonDiss and RRB* — Dihydrogen Monoxide _(Review) 01:35, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry man! I'll help hold the fort for you. bibliomaniac15 01:49, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I know what it feels like...come back when you feel refreshed! Singularity 09:02, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, that was quick. As any wikipediholic will sing: "You can log out any time you like,/But you can never leave." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bibliomaniac15 (talk • contribs) 00:29, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad to see you back, but I'd be more hesitant in asserting this...you sounded seriously upset when you came to the conclusion you needed a break - don't let that same addiction force you back. — Dihydrogen Monoxide _(Review) 00:34, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Seriously upset? No, I just needed a break. It's a pity how things can be so seirously mis-interpreted in plain text. If I were to read what I said out, I think I would have sounded.... pensive. Lol - don't you remember our conversation on MSN? :D And its not the addiction, it really is me wanting to come back. The last day really was enough of a recharge, believe it or not. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 00:41, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

As for my concerns in regards to the "atmosphere" here, I came to the conclusion that, wherever you go, there will be flaws in the way things function, and that here, on Wikipedia, things are still pretty good. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 00:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

"And its not the addiction, it really is me wanting to come back" — that's what they all say. *ducks* Daniel 00:00, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK for Wilhelm Ohnesorge

On 21 December 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Wilhelm Ohnesorge, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

I hope you have a restful wikibreak and wake up refreshed. --Royalbroil 14:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User talk protection

Hey AD. I see you protected User talk:Bimbo Whales from his editing — thank you. It seems s/he doesn't like revisions to {{uw-ublock}}. :) Regards, Rt. 16:57, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RfA Thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which closed successfully with 44 support, 4 oppose, and 3 neutral. I will work hard to improve the encyclopedia with my new editing tools (and don't worry, I'll be careful).

  jj137 ^♠ 01:13, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Email

You have one. I (talk) 05:57, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Replied. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 06:03, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

I figured out why I didn't get it. It went into my spam folder for some reason. And yes, that is my MSN. (Except its of, not og). I (talk) 01:06, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK late

Would you like to do the honours? :) Gatoclass (talk) 07:31, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Done. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 07:55, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Cool, thanks AD. Gatoclass (talk) 07:57, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Y Done - [4] Tell me if I screwed up :) — Dihydrogen Monoxide _(Review) 08:06, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, you do need to copy the update to Wikipedia:Recent additions. Other than that you seem to be done, in which case, I can clear the update page ready to start over, can't I?

Never mind, done it myself. Hope I didn't screw anything up! Gatoclass (talk) 08:43, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Nup, thanks for doing it! -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:44, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

No problem, I wasn't sure whether you were still online so I thought I'd give it a go myself. Now I'll know how to do the refresh next time :) Gatoclass (talk) 08:47, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Global Warming

Our edits crossed on the talk page. I unprotected it. I hope thats OK.

As far as I can see, the main problem there is Sterclius, who looks like a sock. The anon shouldn't have been able to edit - it should be permanently semi.

Probably best talked out on the t:GW page?

William M. Connolley (talk) 09:41, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Yep, replied on talk page. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 10:15, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ==Season's Greetings==

May this season bring you success, good times and happiness. Looking forward to working with you in the future.
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[edit] RfA thanks

Great success! Thank you for supporting my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 53-3-2. Special thanks goes to Shalom for both the suggestion and the nomination. I'm honored by the trust that the community has shown in me, and will do my very best as an administrator. Thanks again! faithless (speak) 08:25, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] heh

When's the last time I cleaned up your mess :p (Sorry, couldn't resist) --D_arkF_alls ^talk 11:58, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

DarkFalls, this has to stop. If you continue to stalk me, I'll have to take down your details and set my friends on you call up the cops. :P So - think LP is ready for FA?? Cheers, -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 12:03, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

lol. You wouldn't know the first thing about my details... I actually never realized that Linkin Park was up for FA, even after you put the sign up... Well in its current state, it looks pretty good. --D_arkF_alls ^talk 12:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

We'll see about that. It wouldn't be that difficult, you know. I already know you live in Sydney. That's a start. :P -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 12:30, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

So does the whole damn population... you should be more scared when I come to your school :p --D_arkF_alls ^talk 12:49, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Bring it on. I've got a thousand grubby, smelly, ugly, unhygienic, snotty-faced teenagers to hide behind; I'll blend right in. :P -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 12:51, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Sure. And I'll just beat up a strangely tall kid named Josh. (I saw that page with Jimbo on it. I wasn't scared.) --D_arkF_alls ^talk 12:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh snap! Abusing admin rollback is fun :) --D_arkF_alls ^talk 13:01, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

...DarkFalls, have I told you about my three identical brothers? Yes, you know, my parents, the silly twits, they named 'em all "Josh" as well! They are about my height too... Oh yeah, and I'm actually living in Dubbo now, I go to a school there. And I'm not actually 12, but 15, just a silly mistake with my birth certificate... never could read very well... funny that. :P -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 13:05, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Volapük again

As you maybe now, there's a new proposal against the Volapük Wikipedia: m:Proposals for closing projects/Radical cleanup of Volapük Wikipedia. Have a look to see if you'd like to help us fight it. (I see you're working on something else for a month; but even at the end of this period there would be time to help us, since the discussion will be running till around January 24-25.) Thanks in advance. --83.85.142.49 (talk) 00:43, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

[edit] DYK

On 29 December 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Deperdussin Monocoque, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri (talk) 12:21, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Early aircraft

Hi again Anonymous Dissident - it's very exciting to see someone enthusiastically expanding our early aircraft coverage! I just thought I'd point out the page content guidelines used by WikiProject Aircraft to standardise the appearance and layout of aircraft articles. You can load these into a new article by using {{subst:aerostart}}. You might also like to take a look at our list of missing aircraft and see if anything catches your eye. The Voisin-Farman was amongst them until you filled the gap. Cheers and keep up the good work!--Rlandmann (talk) 20:00, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey - thank you for your work in improving these articles. My own concern is the fact that when invisible sections are added, it ruins the formatting, so I remove them. All other help is greatly appreciated. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 20:10, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Invisible sections don't have any effect on the formatting: it's excess blank lines that do. If you're concerned about this, you can just delete any blank lines left between invisible sections. Leaving the standard sections there commented out is intended to help editors not familiar with the project's standard layout and section names. Cheers! --Rlandmann (talk) 00:22, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I know it's the lines, but I also fail to see how invisible headings do anyone any good. Why not just write them? -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 00:23, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

It's intended as a cue for new editors who don't know the conventions: that if they're adding external links, this is where to do it; if they're writing about the service life of the aircraft, we call this section "Operational history" and this is where it goes. Hope this clears things up! --Rlandmann (talk) 01:03, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka 3

Thank you for your participation in my RfA. I definitely paid close attention to everything that was said in the debate, and where possible, I will try to incorporate the (constructive) criticism towards being a better administrator. For now though, especially because of the holidays and all the off-wiki distractions, I am going to take it slowly -- I'm working my way through the Wikipedia:New admin school, double-checking the relevant policies, and will gradually phase into the use of the new tools. I sincerely doubt you'll see anything controversial coming from my new access level. My main goals are to help out with various backlogs, though I also fully intend to keep on writing articles, as there are a few more that I definitely want to get to WP:FA status. If you do ever have any concerns about my activities as an administrator, I encourage you to let me know. My door is always open. Have a good New Year, --Elonka 21:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)