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Medraut is Mordred, not Merlin. Merlin is Myrddin in modern Welsh, so probably Myrdin in mediaeval Welsh. QuartierLatin1968 20:14, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

In fact, Medraut is the early 12th c. form of the Welsh name Medrod. Mordred is a form first found in the later medieval French Arthurian romances, and is an alteration of Geoffrey of Monmouth's variant form Modred. Geoffrey's form is perhaps not simply a variant, but a substantially different Cornish or Breton personal name.--Henrywgc 12:10, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Arthurian entries

The latest study suggests that the date of the final copying of the A annales might be as late as 1200. As such there is every chance that the first two entries were interpolations taken from the works of Geoffrey of Monmouth. The battle of Arfderydd is atested in other sources and was definitely an historical event.--Paul Remfry (talk) 21:48, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Paul - thanks for this, but I've moved it from the article page to the discussion page as more appropriate. 'The latest study'? - do you have a reference for this?? I saw there was a PhD paper from University of Wales Aberystwyth some years ago which I've not managed to get hold of yet, but perhaps there's something else too? David Dumville still seems to be saying c.1100. What I really need is a photocopy of the MSS for the B and C texts, if you know anyone who....? There are, of course, no contemporary witnesses for the Battle of 'Arderit', so there must remain a large question mark over this, and its date. --Henrywgc (talk) 15:11, 23 December 2007 (UTC)