Talk:Anja Pärson

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Contents 1 quoting main page 2 vandalism 3 Sami ethnicity 4 World Championship medal table 5 Anja's weight 6 Moving 7 Team event medal in table? 8 Unencyclopedic and unsourced material 9 Bad transcription of the pronunciation of her name

[edit] quoting main page

Swede Anja Pärson becomes the first alpine skier in history to have World Ski Championship gold medals in all five disciplines.

imho, you could mention both Toni Sailer and Jean-Claude Killy who both got all gold in ski Olympiads. 82.224.88.52 07:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Sure, that was very impressive too, but what does the alpine skiing at the Olympics have to do with the World Ski Championship? - x-Flare-x 00:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

From 1948 to 1980, alpine skiing medals at the Olympics also counted as FIS Alpine World Ski Championships medals. But there is no need to mention Sailer or Killy in this article, since their feats (although remarkable) are not the same as or comparable to Pärson's accomplishment. Seattle Skier 07:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] vandalism

look at the vandalism in the 1st paragraph —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.84.79.130 (talk) 12:12, 12 February 2007 (UTC).

I just reverted the page back, after pretty severe vandlism, see changes Fauxfoe 16:30, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sami ethnicity

It would be nice to mention that Parson is Sami. They are very proud of her achievements, and it's not often that the Sami have such a globally recognized icon. --King ravana 15:11, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

If this really is true (I'm a Swede and I've never heard of it before) then please provide links to verify it. - x-Flare-x 00:16, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I've found some mention of it on the net, like Lasse Anrell (Swedish sports columnist) talking about her being of Sami ethnicity and "a worthy representative for the Sami people" in this article (Swedish). I'm trying to find more information about this though. Anguished75 04:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Here are the sources I've found online: The Local ; Sami Radio ; Aarran: Sami culture and news blog There are more, but I don't speak any of the languages. You can also contact Professor Tom DuBois, the chair of the Department of Scandinavian Studies at the University of Wisconsin, who has brought the point up repeatedly in his courses. His email address is here --King ravana 14:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

So, can we say she is Finnic or Germanic? Is she Saami or Swedish? It is important to know what race she belongs to, the Finnic or the Germanic. Looking at her features, I would say Germanic. What is her real ethnicity?

[edit] World Championship medal table

I notice that this article includes not only an Olympic medal table, but also a medal table for the World (Ski) Championships; something that I've never seen in any other Wikipedia article. Thus I wonder: Is there a WP policy on notability of the World Championship of one sport over another? Or why is it included in this article and not in others?

In my opinion World Championships, although not being on the same level as Olympics, should definitely be given a more prominent place than just a brief mention in the text on any World Champs medalist. Though, I choose to ask this before doing any additions of this kind to other articles rather than adding them first and then having them removed. - x-Flare-x 10:50, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anja's weight

Either the weight of 70 kg or 178 lb is in error

Her weight is 81 kg, that is 178 lbs.

According to several swedish newspapers her weight is 81 kg. However, her own official web site doesn't list her weight at all (I guess it changes throughout the season) and I read somewhere that she has trimmed her weight a few kg since her knee surgery. Any reference about her weight other than herself as source should be treated with skepticism and probably regarded as estimates at best. I think the weight should be removed altogether unless verifiability is possible. --Strangnet 18:40, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moving

Sorry, I am the culprit for changing it to Anja Pärssøns. Isn't that the more accurate name? --User:Yoocan —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yoocan (talk • contribs).

No, not even close. This could have been taken care of with a question here or by using a search engine. --Strangnet 05:25, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Team event medal in table?

She did get a silver medal in Åre, for the team event. Shouldn't this be included in the table? Kronocide 16:09, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unencyclopedic and unsourced material

The following statements were in versions of the Anja Pärson article prior to 21Feb2007:

After winning the bronze in combined at the 2006 Winter Olympic Games, Pärson did not hide her disappointment. Chief rival Janica Kostelić commented on Pärson's attitude: "With this skiing, she should have been happy with bronze."

This is not only unsourced and unreferenced, but in addition it simply does not belong in an encyclopedia article. WP is not a gossip column. See WP:V and WP:NPOV. Even better is the section titled "Remove unsourced or poorly sourced controversial material" in WP:BLP. Therefore, I have deleted these statements as I was revising and reorganizing the article today. We should stick with the facts, leave out the gossip, and properly reference any controversial material added to the article. Seattle Skier 07:16, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bad transcription of the pronunciation of her name

The user (Tomasboij) who has transcribed Anja's name (and keeps reverting my correct transcription) obviously hasn't got a clue about IPA. I have studied phonology at university level. (1) The ɲ symbol is used for representing a palatal nasal sound, nowhere to be found in Anja's name. (2) The symbol : is used for indicating that a vowel sound is long, so why put it after a consonant sound? (3) There is secondary stress on the second syllable in "Anja" which should be indicated. Therefore, this is is the correct transcription: ['anˌja 'pæːʂɔn]. Could someone who is a registered user please correct the transcription and add a comment that leads hack Tomasboij to this section so he doesn't keep incorrectly correcting the transcription?

You say you have studied phonology at university level, but you obviously failed the course. (1) Find a recording of somebody pronouncing Anja's name and analyse it with spectrogram. You will find a palatal nasal. (2) The symbol : is used for all long sounds, whether vowels or consonants, and the nasal is long. Again, this can be verified with a spectrogram. (3) What you misperceive as secondary stress is the Swedish so-called falling tonal accent. It can't be properly transcribed within the Wikipedia system. Moreover, you ignored the motivation I supplied for my revert of your edit: please consult the official IPA handbook. It has an entry on transcribing Swedish, written by Olle Engstrand, which corroborates my transcription. Tomasboij 12:25, 14 May 2007 (UTC)