User talk:Angrynight

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SPEAK: And You Shall Be Heard!!!!

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Contents 1 أهلا و سهلا 2 Ben Bailey 3 Re: languages 4 Comment about Abortion article edits. 5 Atlanta Wikipedians 6 Ghoul 7 "ghoul" in Aramaic 8 Is this image acceptable? 9 Jihad 10 Translation request 11 Thanks for the barnstar Angry! 12 Ben bailey 13 Vandalism 14 Wikipedia:Wikiethics 15 ANGRYnight 16 Administrator 16.1 Salman01 17 abducted vs kidnap 18 Article on Al- 19 Islamic Barnstar Award 20 Where are you from 21 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Muslim brotherhood 1.gif) 22 Fair use rationale for Image:Cash bio.jpg 23 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Lahiri2.PNG)

[edit] أهلا و سهلا

Tab3an ana ktheer mabsuu6 shuuf kaman waa7id biddu yuktub 3an al-3aalam al-3arabi wa khassatan al-adab al-3arabi! Alf ahlan wa sahlan, wa iza fii ayy su2aal fiik tis2alni 3ala User_talk:Palmiro. Palmiro | Talk 18:32, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Ahlan wa sahlan angrynight. I'm also glad that there is someone who writes on the Arab world, and on Arab literature. Are you familiar with Classical Arabic? I would love to have some questions about the dialect answered. For example, is the letter ج pronounced geem or jeem? Most Yemenis including myself pronounce it as geem and I believe that every other Arabic group(except the Egyptians) pronounce it as jeem. Anyway, I would appreciate your response. --Inahet 07:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Assalamu alaikum, thanks for responding. Popular opinion is that Yemeni Arabic is the closest to classical Arabic see [1]. It's perhaps true, because the most common Yemeni dialect still retains most (if not all) the proper pronounciations of the Arabic letter of old. Yemenis still say qaf, ghain, dhaad, dhaa, while these letters are pronounced quite differently in other Arabic dialects. I, however, was unsure of the letter geem or jeem. And when I say classical Arabic I mean the Arabic of the Qur'an, and of the time and the place of the Prophet (PBUH). That is the reason why I asked. Also, there must be only one pronounciation of the letter geem in classical Arabic, so if you know please tell me.--Inahet 01:30, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I know why I confused you. I forget to acknowledge that there were other Arabic dialects aside from the Quraishi Arabic that existed in pre-Islamic times. Thank you for making that clarification, it seems that I know less of Arabic than I thought. So I guess when say that Yemeni Arabic is the closest to Classical Arabic, they actually mean the classical Yemeni dialect?? Maybe? Also, this is for my personal curiousity, so please there is no need to do any research, I don't want to trouble you.

Can you do a little favor? If you can, please translate the following into English, and this is for the English article on Geber:

هو أبو عبد الله جابر بن حيان بن عبد الله الكوفي المعروف بالصوفي واختلف الناس في أمره فقالت الشيعة أنه من كبارهم وأحد الأبواب وزعموا أنه كان صاحب جعفر الصادق رضي الله عنه وكان من أهل الكوفة وزعم قوم من الفلاسفة أنه كان منهم وله في المنطق والفلسفة مصنفات 

My Arabic isn't too great. Inahet 04:48, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ben Bailey

The article I deleted about Ben Bailey was about a teenager. You can go ahead and create the article about the TV host, and you don't have to worry about the other article because it was created without his last name capitalized. In other words, the deleted article was at Ben bailey. Your article should be at Ben Bailey. Hope that helps. Academic Challenger 03:00, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: languages

I added those particular Babel boxes because I have accounts on those Wikipedias (mostly for image work). Regards, Alphax ^τεχ 04:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comment about Abortion article edits.

W'salaam aleiekum!

I took the liberty of correcting the links to your edit in the Abortion article--they were both redlinked. Justin Eiler 04:05, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Atlanta Wikipedians

There are several wikipedians in the Atlanta metro area. Mav has mentioned trying to get something going on article collaboration and possible some meetups. As to pics, unfortunately, I'm currently camera-less (and hating it) due to a robbery a while back. I can be contacted more directly using the E-mail This User link. AUTiger ʃ ^talk/_work 04:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ghoul

Hi, As I know from various credible English dictionaries "Ghoul" is originally Persian still I'm not quite sure about it but it seems to be true because it exists in various Pahlavi texts much before Arab invasion of Iran. In Persian we say "Ghoul" غول same as your language also there is another word having almost the same meaning "Div" or "Deev" ديو. -- Amir85 18:43, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "ghoul" in Aramaic

So far in Aramaic I can tell you that it is written as "ܓܼܘܼܠ". I dont know what the word means, but I will find out for you --A2raya07 23:50, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is this image acceptable?

I'm just a user who tags images, but from the content at http://dsc.discovery.com/utilities/about/visitoragreement.html it would seem a fair use claim would be the only route to use this particular image from this source.

Have a look at rationale for fair use for how this fair use stuff works.

As long as

• the image is used in an article about the subject of the image
• an approporiate tag, like {{promotional}}, is on the image description page with source information

and

• the conditions in rationale for fair use are met

then you're good.

Of course, free images are always preferred over non-free images. Apparently fair use images may be removed from non-online Wikipedia distributions. I read that somewhere, but damn if I can find it.

Hope that's what you wanted to hear...

Regards, Dethomas 00:22, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jihad

Thanks for your note, I will do what I can. Please feel free to remind me if I'm tardy, since I have a lot of things going on these days and may not be prompt. Shukran...Ramallite ^(talk) 06:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Translation request

Hello, I saw that you are a native speaker of Arabic, so I would like to ask you if you could take a look at 2003 invasion of Iraq and Iraq War. There is a featured article in Arabic which we would like to know how it could be used the English one which is of course dominated by people who have either been there as soldiers or have their knowledge from western media. Someone also asked if the section about "related propaganda and phrases" could be amplified with information about the Iraqi side. Maybe there are also people who took photos in Iraq at the Arabic version? Nameme 14:43, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I can and will translate the article somtime in the next several days and post the translation in the talk page of the english article. I glanced over it real quick and it doesn't seem to suffer from systemic bias. Don't underestimate the value of US soldiers who were there though, there are plenty who can discuss aspects of the invasion which I doubt the Arabic article goes over since there weren't too many Arabs with the US forces when they invaded. I know one ex-army interrogator who naturally knows more about US army interrogation policy than most. I'll have you know bias pisses me the hell off no matter who it's from and I will strip any POV that I can see from the translation before posting. Angrynight 15:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I fully agree that it is important to have information from soldiers who were there. I just think that both versions probably have qualities the respective other one lacks. Nameme 15:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the barnstar Angry!

I'll try to address your concerns on the articles soon the sections are just pants at the moment, i got sidetracked by some wikibook stuff recently. Discordance 22:41, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Begun cleaning up the controversy section and controversy article for family guy if you want to pitch in. We need to cleanup so we can see how much of the controversy article is junk and how much is inclusion worthy and decide whether to merge the content. I've found lots of sources today but theres a few more to be found and checked and wording needs trimming. Discordance 00:46, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ben bailey

Ok, I unprotected and deleted the page, although usually in this case there is no redirect. Academic Challenger 03:45, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

This edit looks like vandalism to me. You made a minor edit with the summary "grammar correct" and nuked an entire section. Please explain. savidan^{(talk) (e@)} 03:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

It was an accident which I have corrected and apologized for it on your talk page. Angrynight 03:54, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I suspected it might have been unintentional. That's why I contacted you instead of reverting it (someone else did so while I was posting on your talk page). Sorry if I was too accusatory in the last post. It was just kind of ironic—being in an article about vandalism after all. savidan^{(talk) (e@)} 03:55, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Wikiethics

Hi,

We started a proposal Wikipedia:Wikiethics to state the existing policies coherently and make suggestions on improving the editorial standards in Wiki. I thought you might be interested in contributing to that proposal.

Unfortunately, a pro-porn and pro-offense lobby is trying to make this proposal a failure. They unilaterally started an approval poll although almost no one including me believe that it is time for a vote, simply because the policy is not ready. It is not even written completely.

Editors who thinks that it needs to be improved rather than killed by an unfair poll at the beginning of the proposal, started another poll ('Do we really need a poll at this stage?') at the same time. The poll is vandalized for a while but it is stable now. A NO vote on this ('Do we really need a poll now?') poll will strengthen the position of the editors who are willing to improve the policy further.

If you have concerns about the ethics and editorial standards in Wiki, please visit the page Wikipedia:Wikiethics with your suggestions on the policy. We have two subpages: Arguments and Sections. You might want to consider reviewing these pages as well...

Thanks in advance. Resid Gulerdem 20:31, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ANGRYnight

Salam,

Dude! is everything alright with you? How does a cute penguin confirm their image of a violent arab? Have you looked at your own username? And you are NOT the last straw. What you have seen on my talk page is because i refused to accept the fact that many scientists were persians, but rather arab like Geber, Alhazen, etc. Its non of my business, but unlike you whose main interest is in Islam; nearly all my contributions[2] were in the field of Arab science, science, or Yemeni related stuff. If you wanted to promote a nation or a civilization like the islamic civilization, than the best way is showing what they have produced in SCIENCE!!

Regarding yemeni related stuff, me and user Inahet are the ONLY users who have bothered to improve yemeni-related articles. It will be realy nice if you also did something about it, instead of beeing concerned about silly nonsense stuff like a penguin picture on MY talk page. Anyway, I removed the Picture. Jidan 13:14, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Administrator

[edit] abducted vs kidnap

Hi. I noticed you were arguing with zerofaults about this issue. I have as well and actually defeated him on the same point he is trying to make to you; note he never replied back to my last reply to him, instead starting his faulty line of reasoning over with you.--Paraphelion 17:59, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article on Al-

Hi. I wonder if you wouldn't mind taking a look at the article above, and expanding it further, or especially adding any sources appropriate for our English Wikipedia. I've already built it from a one-sentence stub using the sum total of my knowledge on the subject. Specifically, someone raised questions about the etymology of Semitic definite articles that I just couldn't answer. This has been addressed, but the explanation and other statements really need sources to back them up! So I'm trying to recruit other Wikipedians with Arabic/linguistic expertise, such as yourself. Thanks very much! -Fsotrain09 17:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Islamic Barnstar Award

Please offer your opinion, vote, or whatever about your choice for the image to be used with the Islamic Barnstar Award at the Barnstar proposals page. Although there is consensus for the concept of an Islamic Barnstar Award, some editors would like to change the image for the award. I was just thinking you should be aware of this discussion because you have contributed to Islamic-related articles, received the Islamic Barnstar Award, or have contributed to the Islam-related Wikiprojects, etc.--JuanMuslim ^1m 16:20, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where are you from

Hi! Which country are you from? If you're a Lebanese, since your Arabic is good, I would like you to visit this website (since we're looking for Lebanese - and even non-Lebanese - to help improve Lebanon-related articles):

• http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A_%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%86 <- we are critically low in membership

Also consider going to the English version by clicking here

Thanks. - Qasamaan 21:48, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

P.S. If you're Lebanese, add {{User_Lebanese}} on your user page.

---Sorry I'm not Lebanese, I'm originally Palestinian, but I have no problem helping out with Lebanon Related Articles.Angrynight 23:37, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Muslim brotherhood 1.gif)

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