User talk:Angel Emfrbl

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Contents 1 Archieves: 2 Trivia removal 3 Page blanking 4 One Piece Criticism 5 One Piece articles 6 Concerning the One Piece references 7 Fan Fiction nominated for an Article Improvement Drive 8 s-protection 9 One Piece 10 Franky Schematics 11 One Piece filler 12 Something you might be interested in 13 Serious Help with the Franky Schematics 14 Mortal Kombat 15 Mihawk 16 That banner 17 Writing problems 18 Wikipedia:WikiProject One Piece 19 Fair use 20 List of One Piece episodes 21 To Corgi 22 One Piece links 23 440 out and fan-Translated 24 New Navi Templates 25 Question 26 Question 27 Prod tags 28 Please warn vandals 29 Minor edits 30 Thriller Bark 31 New Information 32 Mihawk pic 33 ONE PIECE 452 34 Merging some One Piece characters 35 A bit of help,please 36 Happy Birthday 37 Re: 38 Sir Crocodile Page 39 One Piece 458 40 Someone id like to introduce you to 41 Garp not getting his own page? 42 One Piece Manga V.2 43 Thanks 44 Looking for the source of some of your images 45 AfD nomination of One Piece timeline 46 Re:Complaint 47 Orphaned non-free media (Image:InuInunoMiModelDachshund.png) 48 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Wanted4.jpg) 49 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Firegod.jpg) 50 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Earthgod.gif) 51 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Watergod.jpg) 52 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Shipwright.png) 53 One Piece characters 54 RE: Important! 55 RE 56 Userfy and compare? 57 Re: Test page 58 Mihawk's Sword 59 Speedy deletion of Template:Test page: One Piece Characters 60 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Blackbeardcrew.jpg 61 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Donkriegfleet.jpg 62 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Blackcatspirateship.png 63 Orphaned non-free media (Image:WhitebeardFlag2.png) 64 Usopp article 65 On TTN 66 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Ace preview2.jpg) 67 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Red-hairedpirates.jpg 68 Luffy 69 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Buggy+ shanks.jpg) 70 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Red-hairedpirates.jpg) 71 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Shanks + Luffy.jpg) 72 Red Hairs 73 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Whitebeardship.jpg) 74 Brook 75 The Will of D 76 Orphaned non-free media (Image:LuffyBlackbeardargument.png) 77 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Luffysmile.png) 78 Priests 79 One Piece game 80 Popularity polls 81 Editing Help? 82 Revert at Nami (One Piece) 83 Bad faith revert at Roronoa Zoro‎ 84 AfD nomination of List of One Piece story arcs 85 There goes another one 86 June 2008 87 *ahem*

[edit] Archieves:

• Image Archieve

[edit] Trivia removal

I would prefer you not revert my reworking of trivia in the One Piece character articles. I won't edit war with you over it, but I would like to discuss it. See Talk:Sanji for my reasoning. --tjstrf 09:49, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I have the same problem with you in the Monkey D Luffy page, as Tjstrf said, no reason to start an edit war, but you have to at least reply in the discussion page if you want to make a major edit like this. The attacks and abilities page is limited to attack names, not abilities the characters possess. Gear 2 is not an attack, it is a state of being, just like becoming Super Saiyan (again not an attack), or the Kyuubi powers Uzumaki_Naruto, Goku. Look at their pages, these states are posted on the main page because they are NOT ATTACKS they are transformations, you can't consider them attacks. They are a part of the characters design and makeup to include them under attacks means his gomu gomu ability should also be under attacks. Please revert it to the way it was. Tinibash

The page isn't 'one piece attacks'... Its 'One piece abilities'... Gears are abilities AND upgrades related to attacks anyway, end of discussion. Angel Emfrbl 08:17, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd consider Gears to be an ability, more precisely, an attack form. For an example, Hiten Mitsurugi (I can't believe I spelled that from memory) is a style of attack, but is still considered an ability because it is a skill unique (or nearly unique) to the character. The same with the gears. --tjstrf 21:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah part of it was for someone to change that ablities page to attack page. Which may happen now (finally). I did it partly to prove a point. Its okay now, someone redid the information into bite-size form. I'm not gonna crib on it now and I've made my point on the abilities page clear.  :D Angel Emfrbl 22:13, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page blanking

Hey, it looks like you're freaking out a vandal bot!  :) Are you trying to break up an article or something? Looks like you need some assistance. Let me know. —Wknight94 (talk) 15:32, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

And no, you need to be an administrator to delete pages in Wikipedia. Otherwise, you can request that the page be deleted by placing a speedy deletion request tag at the top. It sounds like you want {{db-author}}. —Wknight94 (talk) 15:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah! I didn't know this. Thanks! My knowledge of Wikipedia is not exact vast. Angel Emfrbl 16:44, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem. That bot that left all the warnings here is simply a program that freaks out when someone blanks an entire page - so it thought you were vandalizing. For any people that left comments here, you might want to discuss your changes with them since they appear to be pretty wide-scale changes. Good luck and let me know if you run into more problems!  :) —Wknight94 (talk) 17:21, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a million! Angel Emfrbl 17:23, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One Piece Criticism

This page has been deleted, as you have requested.  (aeropagitica)  (talk)  21:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One Piece articles

Thanks for the message on my talk page. Please take a look at the AfD nomination that covers a number of articles in the One Piece template: I've proposed that those specific articles (and potentially others besides) be deleted, on the bases that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information - as I assert on the AfD page, those specific articles are collections of unnecessary information. If you disagree, please place a comment in the format '''Keep''' [reason] on the AfD page, and remember to sign your name there too.

Please also remember that Wikipedia, as an open project, actively invites its users to be bold in updating pages and participating in maintenance projects, such as the AfD process. No offense is intended in placing AfD tags on pages that I believe should be intended. Please also remember that I have not deleted any of those pages, and will not - I'm not an administrator. Instead, I've proposed that they be deleted, so that if a sufficient number of other users believe that they should be deleted and/or merged with articles, they will be. RandyWang (^raves/_{review me!}) 12:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Please assume good faith when dealing with other editors. See Wikipedia:Assume good faith for the guidelines on this. RandyWang (^raves/_{review me!}) 12:38, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I am keeping that in mind... REALLY I just wasn't impressed since I and others have spent the last few weeks bringing ALL the One Piece pages up to Wikipedia standards and you randomly come in while this is going on. I'm not the only one doing these pages but I set up a lot of the information and spend a lot of time watching the series and reading the manga to compare the information and make sure things are correct. I found it encouraged others to bring the pages up to standards which is why I'm doing it. I haven't the reaction of everyone else since most peeps working on those pages are stranges to me. Angel Emfrbl 12:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Concerning the One Piece references

Godspeed, Angel Emfrbl. If you ever need any help, I'll be glad to help. (Kurigiri 17:10, 30 July 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Fan Fiction nominated for an Article Improvement Drive

Because of your excellent quick catch on fan fiction, I figured you'd want to know that the article has been nominated for an Article Improvement Drive. :) Runa27 23:24, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] s-protection

You can't actually add Semi-Protection yourself, you know. You have to get it added at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, by an admin. --tjstrf 14:30, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I found out after reading about it + removed them. It was a mistake on my part, I know about it now. Angel Emfrbl 14:42, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One Piece

I never said there wasn't an original version; I said I'm not basing any of my edits around it. It's the English manga. I know that there are no English sources, but that doesn't mean it doesn't need to get translated. It's article consistancy. Having Luffy's attacks being called "Gum Gum" whatever in one part of the article and then "Gomu Gomu" whatever in another will just confuse the reader. I hope that explained some of it. The Splendiferous Gegiford 18:25, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Its not just soley the whole Gum Gum thing... There are others. But thats simply the one I used as an example. And going by the title of your edit you give the wrong idea. You should have phrased that better to avoid cofusion.  :/Angel Emfrbl 18:34, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Justyn didn't wait for the discussion to end before he changed all of them. Where's your message to him? The Splendiferous Gegiford 15:57, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

The same, I haven't got round to seeing him. In fact... I forgot! Thanks for the reminder I was meant to repeat that too him too! Rats! I better tell him too! :O Angel Emfrbl 15:58, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

By the way, I really do think we should use that chart you made for the Devil Fruits in the article. It would make the article a lot easier to read. The Splendiferous Gegiford 16:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I need to look up some more stuff on wikipedia on table building. The dub name resfuses to go onto one line. I'm taking a look at it in a couple of hours time and try and see what I can do with it. Though I already know its because of the explaination text is big. If I can't do anything to solve the problems with it, then I'll need to sit back and get everyone to rethink how we can do the page otherwise. Angel Emfrbl 16:11, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

"I don't want to hear anymore about this (We've been arguing over names for over two weeks if anyone cares). End it now! (Or at least put it off for a month so we can have a break from this!). Angel Emfrbl 18:17, 29 September 2006 (UTC)"

I had to bring it up; someone else started changing all the names. So, I will drop it when everything is reverted back to the way it was. WhisperToMe 21:19, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed... We also had a name vandal on here yesturday changing things like Zeff to Jeff everywhere. Most annoying. We've had a few of those the last few weeks. Angel Emfrbl 07:52, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Franky Schematics

Thank you for the compliment. This was the best way I could think of preserving Franky's attacks. He's one of my favorite characters and I don't want all that info to be lost. Also, I think some of the other attack lists I think could be handled like that. For characters like Zoro, his attacks could be placed in a page thats mostly about his style of fighting. It wouldn't be something that looks like listcruft because the page's main topic would be about Zoro's fighting style and not the attacks themselves. Just make an article that's not centered around a list of attacks and I doubt there will be any crufty grounds for deletion. This I think could be used effectively for the main characters since they're the ones with most techniques. Of course it may not work for the minor characters since there's not much to go around but there's probably a loophole that could be exploited. However, all of that needs alot of work that I don't think I can do alone so... Anyway, thanks for the complement.CalicoD.Sparrow 07:44, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One Piece filler

We can't say that *anything* is canon or non-canon. It isn't up to Wikipedia to make judgments like that. The most we can do is say that some particular source (like the author) says the filler isn't canon. But if we do that we still need a quote from the author saying that he doesn't consider filler to be canon. Filler doesn't become non-canon just by existing. Ken Arromdee 20:31, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes but its not real facts, its something else. Argue with me all day. I don't care on this matter. I am simply not in the mood today (even the most reasonible and usually patient wiki editors have bad days)... Non-Canon stuff has its place. But not when used for proof of facts. As I said, there are WAYS of writing it out into a article, if you can't learn how to do it using any of the methods I suggested then don't add the non-canon stuff at all. Angel Emfrbl 20:43, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake for putting it on the wrong page.

Anyway, "non-canon stuff has its place, but not for proof of facts" doesn't matter--because we can't decide that something is non-canon to begin with. "Filler is not canon" isn't a decision we can make. Ken Arromdee 21:01, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Erm... 1) Filler is filler. We don't decide yes, thats the animation company. But its STILL filler whatever you say and its no good as evidence to use whatever on a wikipedia page. Look, I don't want to argue, maybe another day, as I said on your discussion page... I'm in a bad mood today, otherwise I'd go into this a lot deeper and give you a full explanation. Give me a day or two. Bottom line - Oda (the AUTHOR) did not write it, Toei did, Toei makes mistakes, therefore the information is untrusty worthy sometimes. Like the whole Chopper and rumble balls thing.

Ah! Its no good. I'm gonna have to argue about this another day, my temper is going to end up cooming out here... And I don't want to cause trouble on wikipedia. We'll discuss this another day. Angel Emfrbl 21:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, we cannot be sure for things like the Ocean's Dream arc, but Oda did say that the filler for the Loguetown arc would have been in the manga if not for time constraints. So it would be safe to move, say, Daddy the Father, from the filler characters page, to the minor characters page because of what Oda said on the matter. (Justyn 05:29, 10 October 2006 (UTC))

It's true that Oda didn't write the filler. That doesn't mean that the filler is no good for use as evidence about a character. You could say that the filler is no good for use as evidence of Oda's intentions for the character, however. Ken Arromdee 15:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm in a better mood today to talk to. So resonsible me is listening. I nearly forgot I had this going on in my discussion page. Picture me meditating on a rock if you must. I'm not trying to be angry with your or have an argument here. I'm just trying to make you understand something.

Filler is just that - a lot of filler made up to bump up existing storylines, sometimes it is just that it isn't sound enough to make a good strong wikipedia statement. Toei does mistakes, which is why we can't use the filler (pay attention here please) Without backing it with evidence from the canon storyline. As I said, there are ways of getting it on a page, but filler standing alone as evidence isn't good enough. Please accept that there are ways to get info on a page, and ways not to. If you can't accept this, don't put filler infomation on a page, its as simple as that.

Take for instance the One Piece timeline... You can put filler on that so long as you write Anime only, same with Devil Fruits. As I said, Chopper + rumble balls... This was written on to the page to, adding that its different in the manga as to the anime. This is fine too.

And as someone stating, the Logue Town stuff was left out things Oda didn't have time to puyt in. This I can confirm can stand, I believe it was something like chapter 100 was meant to be the end of Logue town, Oda says it in a SBS somewhere... So some aspects of the fillers can stand alone (but again you need to reference statments by Oda where he says its okay) which rarely happens in One Piece. On another note, Oda does design the bad guys for characters in movies and things, so even though the movies are filler they are Oda's creatations.

So yeah, long story short, its okay to add fillers, but back them up with canon storyline proof, Oda's words, or the words anime only and avoid putting the word 'Filler' at all cost. Angel Emfrbl 19:24, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

No, no, that misses my point. Which is deciding that some episodes are part of the canon storyline and others are not is a decision which *we are not permitted to make*. We can't say "this is filler, so it doesn't count as part of the canon storyline unless Oda says so". Ken Arromdee 02:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

And I'm saying there is a difference whether we like it or not. The One Piece pages are not set up as One Piece (anime), One Piece (manga) and so forth which means we're catering for both. There is a clash between anime and manga on our pages therefore, you need to define which came from where. So while I agree we can't make these choices, we have to because otherise we get information problems. But REALLY is it that much fo a biggy to do what I've suggested? Come on, a small little note something is not filler or is from the anime only isn't much and won't effect the quality of the page. And plus, we've been doing this since before I joined wikipedia, its a tradition now. Angel Emfrbl 05:48, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Something you might be interested in

Please go to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Dragon Ball special abilities to share your opinion. Hydromasta231 07:03, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I've done that. I am not a DBZ fan (give me a blow torch I feel the urge to burn something), but I know enough of it to make a judgment there. I don't this that article is just fancruft. Its not Liftcruft thats for sure. Angel Emfrbl 07:51, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Serious Help with the Franky Schematics

I know you like the concept and all but lately I've been having some real trouble with making the page better looking. I can't seem to find the time to fill in the words and look for the pictures to post for the page. Also I think with my present mood and affairs, I need a long wiki-vacation from all this editing. Could you and some other people work on it while I am gone. You made the great Devil Fruit chart so I know you can do it. For safety measures so that it won't get deleted, you can move the entire contents of the article to my userpage and use it as a workshop or something. I think that's possible. I really need the rest to do other things. I may drop in once in awhile to do stuff but nothing too major until I get back in the mood.

On a sidenote in case you didn't know, I believe Justyn's also doing a similar concept with Zoro's attack page. He could sure use the help.CalicoD.Sparrow 15:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Rest well, I'll see what I can do. I can't make any promises, but I can ensure you I will try. Angel Emfrbl 16:04, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Better hope none of the in-universe article deleters see that page... it's pretty much horrid and rather speculative besides with the right/left arms usage. --tjstrf 18:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't mention them... They've been taking apart every wikipedia page lately. Their all baised too, a lot of those doing it (note: I did not say ALL here). They crib about our pages yet when you look at a few of theirs... Not much better. Its hard to create a wikipedia page now thanks to them. Until 3 months ago, they weren't a problem. Now we've been working hard on these pages for over 3 months, suddenly here they are. Angel Emfrbl 19:34, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

If theirs are not much better, bring up the fact that they don't have room to talk. They delete ours and keep thier own that do the exact same thing, they're hypocrits. (Justyn 20:39, 11 October 2006 (UTC))

I wish I could link to some of theirs, but I'm not looking to start an argument here on wikipedia. I've had enough arguments here lately. Besides, I'm trying to avoid trouble here. All I can say, is next time they try to delete things, check up on a few of those against, you'll see there are many hypocrits on wikipedia. Angel Emfrbl 20:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

The page that I'm working with had been around for some time, I'm just making it better, and the page in question is still being put togeter; Rome was not built in a day. (Justyn 18:26, 11 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Mortal Kombat

Thank you for your recent contributions to one of Wikipedia's Mortal Kombat articles. Given the interest you've expressed by your edits, have you considered joining the Mortal Kombat WikiProject? It's a group dedicated to improving the overall quality of all Mortal Kombat articles. Here's some project-specific information for you:

• The scope of the WikiProject
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If you have any questions, see the help pages, ask at the MK project talk page, or feel free to ask me on my talk page. EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mihawk

Actualy, the user before me put it up, I just made it hidden untill it could be proven, or disproven; I just wanted to save whoever would do the editing some time so that all that stuff would not need to be reentered, and, highlight the information that would need to deleted should it be nessicary. The bit about Franky joining just needs to be stated in the manga, but it's pretty obvious that he is. (Justyn 18:19, 5 December 2006 (UTC))

[edit] That banner

Eheh.. Forgot my moniter was bigger than the norm. Sorry for the troubles. -- Liqiud 03:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Writing problems

After reading your user page, I'm guessing that you are not that good at writing in 3rd century Mandarin, too. Does it really matter? Everyone has writing problems; it's your thoughts that matter not your ability to put them in one or another communication form. Before posting, try running whatever you write through Microsoft Word spelling and grammar checker. In fact, most clean-up editors copy an entire Wikipedia article into their Microsoft Word program, run the spelling and grammar checker, and then use the results to clean up the Wikipedia article. Also, by using Microsoft Word spelling and grammar checker, you will see yourself making the same mistakes and thus learn to correct one mistake at a time.-- Jreferee 14:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject One Piece

Sailor Moon has her own WikiProject, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Sailor Moon. Have you thought of form a Wikipedia:WikiProject One Piece? --Jreferee 14:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use

Devil fruits images: can't argue fair use for images being used as mere illustration. AS in the WP:FU official policy states:

8. The material must contribute significantly to the article (e.g. identify the subject of an article, or specifically illustrate relevant points or sections within the text) and must not serve a purely decorative purpose.

Further this is clarified with a counterexample of what fair use is NOT:

An image of a Barry Bonds baseball card, to illustrate the article on Barry Bonds. A sports card image is a legitimate fair use if it is used only to illustrate the article (or an article section) whose topic is the card itself; see the Billy Ripken article.

So I removed the images from the article. -- Drini 18:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

You CAN INDEED use this photo.

HOWEVER

fair use photos must provide commentary on the article. Only free license images can be used for illustration. Anom8trw8 00:16, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of One Piece episodes

I don't know what's up with that vandal, but some of the stuff he writes is true, and some isn't. I reverted some of his stuff yesterday. I believe Geg and I have fixed all the mistakes he made, and the info in the OP article is now all correct. - Peregrinefisher 22:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To Corgi

I didnt make that statement,it was added by 70.41.98.140.You cant expect me to go and check every piece of info on every page I go through. New Babylon

Youve erased him from the Cipher Pol page and said that I should prove he's from CP5. New Babylon

Didnt quite understand,what you mean. New Babylon

[edit] One Piece links

Quite bored.Need to talk to someone-On the One Piece media release information page,theres a link to One Piece manga online in English (V3),but the pictures mostly dont show like nothing else then colorless squares witha red "x",but not at all.Most importlantly,Ive read volumes from this page before and nothing like that happened before-once,after a longer time but then it got fixed again and now its like that.Any idea's what could be wrong? New Babylon

Not all MSN pages,I can read the chapters elswhere on V2 (only theyd dint have chapter 426 till recently-I read it,but I was searching for a picture for my Buster Call article and......),and not all on V3 does not show (the newest albums do show).I juts hope it will work (ps:tried to refresh,tried "show picture" and the results the same)

New Babylon 23:12, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Um,I think its the link beneath the article One Piece media and release information.Go to "One Piece",then click on "44 volumes,4xx chapters" right at the top and youll get po the page.Go to links and youll find "One Piece Manga Online (English" and THATS it. To version of chap 439-if youd know what I read on V3-some pages were actualy GREEN!Yet I didnt mind,so long as I could read One Piece. PS:You've said to eb a fan of One Piece as well-id like to know for how long (since when) and how you actualy got to One Piece.Ive got my own boring story (seen in TV,fell in love with it and the rest is history). New Babylon (sorry about this,but I dont got the "dont know what theyre calle,dwhat you toald me to include at end" copied right now and dont know if this keabord can generate it.

[edit] 440 out and fan-Translated

Dont know if YOU know,but Chapter 440 of One Piece is just out and fan translated in One Piece V2 page in "Pictures".New Babylon

Well,yes its quite interesting,especialy to see characters that are kind of encrypte din your mind as old characters (the Sensej at Zoro's Dojo) talk (think) about "Enies Lobby".A weird feeling for my part.But a good one.New Babylon

Ah,nope.PS:You hard how Wapol banished all the doctors but 20 right?Thought it so absurd it couldnt hapen?Well in Turkmenistan,it DID: "In February 2005 all hospitals outside Aşgabat were ordered shut, with the reasoning that the sick should come to the capital for treatment."A decree made by Separmurat Niyazov. New Babylon

[edit] New Navi Templates

Okay, sorry about not talking about it. I didn't even think about it. Here's my ideas. The Templates look like this: Story Arcs, Related Articles, Factions , Characters. As you can see "general" has been split into five separate templates, each to be placed on the pages featured in the template. Each Navi Template has a link to the other Templates, and as you can see, are smaller and neater but still allow easy movement through the articles. I also wrote this down HERE on the discussion page.

Also the change to the General will look like this; RecklessFire 21:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

One Piece
Information Characters Related Articles Story Arcs		General One Piece Media Eiichiro Oda | Early One Piece | Manga Guide | Anime Episode Guide | Related Music | Console Games | Side Comics Story Arcs East Blue Saga | Baroque Works Saga | Skypiea Saga | CP9 Saga English adaptations Manga | Anime

[edit] Question

How can I contact 4 kids entertainment through email for answers? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shirleybiscuit (talk • contribs) 22:28, 5 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Question

When you send a message to 4 kids entertainment how long does it take for them to read and repsond back because it takes too long?Shirleybiscuit

[edit] Prod tags

If an editor removes a {{prod}} tag from an article that you have proposed for deletion, it is being contested and the tag should not be restored. The only exception is when the editor is vandalizing the article. If you still think the article should be deleted, take it to WP:AFD instead, as I have done so with Name changes in One Piece --Farix (Talk) 02:47, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

It's not that hard. There are three systems to delete articles. The first is speedy deletion of articles that mean any one of the speedy deletion criteria. Speedy deletion is only reserved for an article doesn't falls into one of the speedy deletion criteria. If it doesn't one of the other two methods must be used.

The next method is the propose an article for deletion with the {{prod}} tag. This should be used on articles were the deletion of the article is unlikely to be contested by another editor. However, if there is already contention about deleting the article or an editor removes the prod tag, then it goes to the last method.

The third method is WP:AfD, which allows the community to discussion the deletion of the article. There are instructions there about how to list an article for AfD. Also, an articles doesn't have to go through the previous two methods before it gets listed on AfD. However, they are encouraged to keep AfD from being more overwhelmed with articles. --Farix (Talk) 12:23, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please warn vandals

Hi, Angel Emfrbl. In future, before putting a vandalism notice on WP:AIV, please make sure that the vandal has been warned. There are many templates available at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace — in general, administrators will not block a vandal unless he or she has been given a warning at least equivalent to {{uw-vandalism3}} or higher. Thanks. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I reported the IP adress before I checked his talk page. I thought with the amounts of vandalising that adress has done, one of the other editors would have done the right stuff and it would be at that level by now. I left a note for everyone on that page to don't just revert only when they deal with him. Angel Emfrbl 08:08, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Minor edits

Hi, regarding your removal of the "Navy or Marine?" section in the Navu (One piece) article, I'm happy to see somebody remove it, but just be careful what you mark as a minor edit. See Help:Minor_edit

"A check to the minor edit box signifies that only superficial differences exist between the current and previous version: typo corrections, formatting and presentational changes, rearranging of text without modifying content, etc. A minor edit is a version that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute.

By contrast, a major edit is a version that should be reviewed to confirm that it is consensual to all concerned editors. Therefore, any change that affects the meaning of an article is not minor, even if the edit is a single word." Mackan 10:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thriller Bark

A tag has been placed on Thriller Bark, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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Good grief! Things sure have become so strict here on wikipedia in the last 6 months since I joined. Its gotten to the point of complete amazment. Everything is happening so fast these days new articles are just being leapt on before you can react... O.o' Angel Emfrbl 21:22, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I would HIGHLY SUGGEST that you set up a "sandbox" [1] where you can do this preliminary work, and let the users from the One Piece area look at it before it's posted as an actual article. That can save lots of problems down the line - and things in sandboxes are not subject to the normal article criteria. SkierRMH 21:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Well reguardless, the page is now up to snuff and no longer liable for S.Delete anyway... I'm gonna remember all this for the next time. What a mess... This is what several months of sitting on your butt just vandal patroling does to you. XD Angel Emfrbl 22:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Information

all the new information is posted came from One Piece Yellow, specifically apforums user Greg's summary of it.

[edit] Mihawk pic

Im not so sure about this,ive seen better and will try to upload one of them (no offense). New Babylon 09:35, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ONE PIECE 452

Say.......you know that chapter 452 is already translated?Look on "One Piece Manga V. 2" . New Babylon 15:32, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merging some One Piece characters

Seeing as you're likely one of the few people that would respond, I may as well ask you first. What do you think of merging some of the non-important characters to their crew pages or where ever they belong? One Piece is a pretty long series at this point, and many of the characters that have articles play only a small part in it. I would say that the only characters that need articles are the Straw Hats, Ace, Buggy, Crocodile, CP9 (even though it's a group I may as well include it), Smoker, Shanks, and Blackbeard. A few borderlines for me are Vivi, Enel, and Akoji. They've played rather large roles, but at this point in time, it really doesn't seem like they need that much written about them. Others like Whitebeard, Garp and Mihawk could come back after they play true roles instead of the minor, sort of ominous ones they currently have. You can just reply here. Nemu 00:27, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Well I'll agree on Mihawk. Aside from two or three appearances there is little to be said other then his strength and past rivalry with Shanks. Whitebeard too, I'll agree. Vivi, I see no reason why not merge her. BB and Ace, for now leave I'll agree there too. Its clear their going to have a bigger role in the future and may need some expansion spa ce.

Garp and Dragon never should have been given their own pages (Dragon Esp.) since there isn't a lot to write about (Dragon's page is pathetic... Its like Dalton's page was when he had one). I agrued with someone over Dragon, the guy makes three or so appearances, has said half a dozen lines and aside from the Luffy and Garp relationships and his status as rev. leader there is nothing more to write about him. Angel Emfrbl 05:58, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Is this something that should be run by other people (i.e. are there other very active users that would care?) or can I just get started? Nemu 18:25, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Well right now not many people are around... Why don't you prepose this on the main One Piece page. It gives everyone's chance to talk (I prefer this). After one week if no one replies, be bold and just try it out. We can always fall back onto the orgianl if it simply doesn't work.

Another person you might want to merge is Croc. His page c an be easily shortened, its just most people don't want to. There are several other characters like that... Article lengths are a major problem on the One Piece articles, but thats a another topic of discussion. Angel Emfrbl 19:24, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Also my view is now, we have the main Encyclopedia which was set up as a expansion of the One Piece wikipedia section. If we want large amounts of info - we have that place for it. Thats part of the idea behind it. We have been working hard to bring it up to standard lately. Angel Emfrbl 19:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A bit of help,please

If youl go to my old user page (New Babylon) youll see that ive merged my info into my new account.I didnt want to do it though,I just simply cant sign in into my old acount.Id like to ask if you know where I could aks for asistance. New Babylon 2 15:50, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I didnt insert an e-mail adress in the old acount.

New Babylon 2 09:48, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I found this through the help pages:"If you did not enter an e-mail address, or the address was out of date, but you are determined to regain access to the account, you might be able to persuade someone with direct access to the database that it is your account, and ask them to retrieve it for you."But I dont have the slightest idea WHO that might be.Any ideas? New Babylon 2 12:44, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Nope. But it will be a admistrator (or whatever the name is here). You'll have to politely ask one. Of cause you'll have to find them first... I have no idea where to start. Wikipedia commons? I really don't know. ^-^' Angel Emfrbl 13:07, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Birthday

Just see on onepiece wikia, on your user page, so... Buon Compleanno! Happy Birthday to You! Cuttyflam 09:27, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:

Honestly, the big things that I'm pissed off about are that no one is thinking of what greater concequences could result because of what we are doing; that if we give in to one control freak, TTN, than we will loose ground, and might have to give into EVERY control freak that decides to come and inforce their will on pages that they have never edited, read, or even heard of before.

Plus the sheer fact that that moron is a royal dick. And I would rather deal with the... antics of WhisperToMe and/or Geg again, rather than deal with someone like TTN. At least they act civily and don't intentionaly act holier-than-thou... well, as far as I can tell.

Really, just give me some time to cool off; I just don't want to be bothered by something that I have absolutely no control over. But if it gets to the point were that ass starts getting power-hungry, LIKE NOW, you could inform the others from the Wikia. As you yourself pointed out: strength in numbers(Justyn 22:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC))

Have I been anything less than civil during this exchange? I brought up the initial discussion here, I got support from one of the few people who is active, and I participated in a discussion, while using guidelines to back my arguments. As I have explained, your paranoia is just plain old paranoia. TTN 22:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, you have to admit one thing Justyn... The civil thing was done. But honestly TTN, I'll admit you were highly pressurising, at times it did feel like bullying... I see your points, I see Justyn points, I think I had I not disired some of the articles merged in the first place, I wouldn't have sided with that much pressure. I'm not saying Justyn wasn't pressuring the subject of no merging on the discussion, but you were slightly more then I expected. I only hope, that everything in the next 72 hours is okay.

We won't feel the effect of the mass merger until that critical 72 hour response time is over. (basically, thats the catch net for every main One Piece editor, from those that edit every day to those edit every other day). The discussion is over. I'm too lazy to say much more anymore on this issue. I'm having a wiki-break for 24 hours to steady my wiki nerves on that mass merger. It may be nothing to you, but since its my first time, it was a litle scary for me. Angel Emfrbl 22:41, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

How was I pressuring you? I gave my first points here (even suggesting keeping pages for people like Crocodile), and backed off for a bit (well, forgot about it), and let you create the discussion. Then I came, suggested a few more, talked to Justyn, and that's about it. Personally, I was expecting this to take longer than it did. If you felt pressured by the list I gave, I didn't mean to make you feel that way. That was supposed to be a general work load for more than just you. Does my typing come off as demanding rather than persuasive? TTN 22:53, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe. Thats the trouble with the internet, words can be intepretated all sorts of ways.  :/

Whatever the case, lets let this rest now for 24 hours. I'm giving the merger 2 weeks to let things cool off here. In two weeks time we'll have known if it was a good or bad thing.  ;) Angel Emfrbl 23:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't want to drag this on any longer than you do, so this will be my last comment for a while as you have suggested. I mean no real disrespect to Justyn, but his words held no backing whatsoever. I have merged enough articles to know that they held no truth. Maybe I should have explained it better, but his words really were just plain paranoia. I didn't mean to pressure you at all, but I was just simply telling you not to let them dissuade you with such wild claims. I only responded directly to you a few times, and I really can't see how I'm being demanding, especially with you being so adamant to clear the articles. With that said, I will not push this anymore. You don't have to feel obligated to respond to this if you don't feel like it. TTN 23:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sir Crocodile Page

It was merged with the Baroque Works. See the talk page of One Piece for more details. Please don't unmerge it again. I'm actually going to sort Croc's stuff out tomorrow and split it betweent hat page and the Shichibukai page. Angel Emfrbl 22:11, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

My apologies. I was not aware.RSBlaylock 01:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

You do not have a monopoly on One Piece content and what you are doing is dragging down the quality of Wikipedia.Triumviron 08:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

DON'T TALK ABOUT THE CROC PAGE... I'VE HAD ENOUGH AND DON'T WANT TO KNOW. THE NEXT TIME I SAY ANYTHING WILL BE ABOUT THE SUMMER PLAN TO BRING THE ONE PIECE PAGES UP FOR AUGUST RELEASE OF FUNIMATION ONE PIECE DUB. DON'T BOTHER ME UNTIL THEN!

[edit] One Piece 458

Okay,so there probably IS a chapter this week,BUT its not on.Though it may be a failure in some part of the "chain" (scanlators,translators) ,cause last week I thought there was no chapter ,then on sunday I go to OP V.2,(you always hope)........and it was there.Well,maybe a litle longer and........ Anywaay,if youd like to see a coupla images of OZ then go to IP V. 2 ,pictures and then to 458 spoilers by me (under the name Lobolover III.,Lobolover is my principal nick and I woudlve chosen it when I created the acount (Im going to wikipedia since 2003/4,though I used a caffee and never logged in) ,but..........just randomly googled the nick and it got me around 4000 results,witch is quite nice,,actualy.) Anyway,just logged in the Wikia and got shocked,cause the interim? logo used on page bars makes you think your on Lord of the Rings!

Oh,one more thing,just wanted to ask you:I live in the Czech republic and id just like to ask you what do you know about it,cause normaly people stil refer to "us" and Slovakia as Czechoslovakia,although we parted on 1th January 1993,fourteen years ago.Also some people tend to place us in asia or africa (a quiz from america got theese answers).

Yours truly,momentarily patriotic New Babylon 2 19:26, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Someone id like to introduce you to

Hi.As you may know,I visit the czech anime forum digisvet.cz ([[2]] )There there is a member (and admin) "named" Yanny Fuuichi and ive just realised that your personalities are,as far as I can judge,quite alike,at least in writing.I can introduse you two,if youd like (and serve as an interpreter if needed).New Babylon 2 14:39, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Garp not getting his own page?

While I understand that Garp only appears about twice/thrice, doesn't mean he is not going to be an important character. As a D, he will be one of the important character later. That's why I am asking, Why was Garp's own page merged with the Navy(One Piece) page? (Sorry, but I missed the discussion about the merge.) Kljs 13:21, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] One Piece Manga V.2

Hello.Ive just been to the group and its says its been "dissabled for administraton puproses"-I hope this does NOT mean its been taken down? New Babylon 2 05:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I apreciate your will to help.(WARNING:EXTENSIVE LITERARY OVERFLOW!IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO READ ON ABOUT FICTIONAL BOOKS ON DEITIES AND SUCH PLEASE SKIP DOWN UNTIL THE END) On a sidenote,maybe you dont know but Im a writer.Ive done over 200 short stories and am working on my fourth and fifth colection books (The preceeding are called:Tales of God,witch is my "debute"(all my works remain unpublished yet,because I have not submited anything,though one of my stories was printed in a school magazine and another won my "high school"(I dont know how you call it but we call it "middle school",translated and a university is a "high school",its confusing for some people) literairy contest and I got a diploma for it-the first thing ive ever won) and has over 400 pages and includes both "normal" prose and my surrealist experiments (most notably influenced by our curent most famous surrealist prose wirter,Pavel Řezníček),the second,witch is my favourite is called:Tales of Blue Light and crystalised by Nine Kings Mythos and has one of my most favourite stories,"Antarctican Emperors" ,about a US government investigation on the antarctican plains (if you want I'll translate it into english and send it to you,but it'l take a while) The third book, Tales of Earth, contributes to it with smaller works.It also holds one of my longest short stories,"Cerw" about a journey into the lands of an ancien Indian (american) tribe beyond the famed and horrid city of Palmery Ridge,whose wery existence is doubted or denied by the world around it and where the centuries old catholic priest Tiberius Coloma delivers insane,self-immolating sermons in the service of his hidden master,the ancient Ibrahim Khair,former God of Earh in the Age of Silver.)The names of the Books im curently working on are:Tournament of the Gods,witch centers around a mysthical tournament of ancient deities (seen only through individual stories) in the strange homeland of the tribes of Izrael,Iaudea (witch is partialy not on this earth,as it is flat and has seven world ends) ,though It had nothing to do with anti-semitism,as some people who ive come across might think (maybe im just a bit too sensitive to not provoke people) and I think it will be a novellete,or novel at best.The other is called "The Bronze Gate and Other tales" and is a colection of both prose works,surreal works,a few Kafka-esque pieces and one of my longest prose works,a prose without a name centered around an ever-deepening argument.

You may also not know who my influences are:my most favourite authors is H.P.Lovecraft,together with Clark Ashton Smith and Robert E. Howard (when doing mythos stories),Jorge Luis Borges,Robert W. Chambers,Lord Dunsany,Franz Kafka,Arthur Machen,Jan Weiss and Pavel Řezníček,I also quite like Clive Barker and Neil Gaiman (and Oda,of course)

(END OF DANGER ZONE)

If youve read it all the way till here,let me know,because I need to know if I should start a larger translation work of my pieces or not. Thanks and sorry for bothering (I cant help it),New Babylon 2 09:30, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

PS:The "Spam" albums REALY get on me nerves too.

Thanks.Anyway,how long do theese "administrative shuts" take?

New Babylon 2 11:19, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Looking for the source of some of your images

Image:Earthgod.gif, Image:Firegod.jpg, and Image:Watergod.jpg have all been tagged as lacking sources and fair use rationales and are set to be deleted within a day or two. I am quite willing and able to add the fair use rationales myself so they can be kept, but I am not certain where these images originally came from. Since you uploaded all three, could you tell me where you found them? MarphyBlack 20:17, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of One Piece timeline

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[edit] Re:Complaint

You realize that you simply undo the edits? All of these pages, considering that you edit them constantly, should be on your watchlist. Get Twinkle or popups if you want to revert vandalism quickly. And vandalism 2-6 times a week on a single page is incredibly tame. Go edit the Naruto articles or other high-profile articles. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 22:46, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

You can complain all you wish, it still does not change the fact that the original burden fell upon people failing to include a fair use rationale in practically every single image in One Piece related articles (including yourself). As for the vandalism issues, practically all the vandalism was present for in excess in five or six hours, and even days or weeks in many. That indicates a fault of the people who edit these pages on a regular basis. I'm not going to check each article for vandalism before tagging an image, as I assume good faith from the editors who are editing those articles. If I had not added the messages under the images in the article, a bot would have done it in any case. The burden falls upon those who failed to provide a fair use rationale or source information, and their lack of foresight for this situation. I do not read the series nor edit these articles on a regular basis. I've tagged the images as an impartial upholder of Wikipedia's non-free policy. Rather than adding a retort that would result in a pointless argument, get to adding the relevant information so the images can remain. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 23:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] One Piece characters

I'm just running this by you for now, so I'm not going to bother pursuing it if you don't like it. As you know, characters on this site need real world information in order to exist. Oda has given out a few pieces here and there, but it's not really enough to sustain an article. There is also no reception information available to support these. For those reasons and because the information is available over at Wikia, there is no real reason to have articles here. We just need one single list that has the main, main characters, and summarize any others that are important enough. Again, I'm just running it by you, but if it works for you, I'll go ahead and set up a discussion. TTN (talk) 01:01, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

OK, the merge tags are up. If you could describe the benefit of the Wiki to all of the fans that will inevitably "vote", that'll help. TTN (talk) 22:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

The best place to leave that is over at Talk:List of One Piece characters. You should probably just move it over there, and leave a message pointing to it. TTN (talk) 20:35, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

If you feel like helping, I'm starting an outline of the One Piece list over at User:TTN/Sandbox. For now, I just need to figure out a good format (which characters to cover, when to describe something as a group), if you want to help with that. TTN 23:52, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm leaning towards a single list unless real world information is found ,or it is just impossible to cover them all on it for some reason. In either case, the Straw Hats will have one page while the rest reside on the list. Anyways, seeing as you've already stated your case, you really don't need to continue if it stresses you out. They're definitely going to be merged one way or another (though it may be through the hassle of bringing in projects to help or using AfDs to sort them out). Hopefully, this initial discussion will work out. TTN 00:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Important!

Note this: the page in question is Fighting For One Piece, not Fighting for One Piece. The S (talk) 18:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay then. Honestly, I do not know that much about Japanese One Piece games, or truth be told, One Piece games in general (I am only a casual fan). I just saw a huge snafu between the two and thought it should be noted (and the way the "Fighting For One Piece" article was set up, from the information to the box art, I was lead to believe they were the same game). Thank you for helping make Wikipedia a better place. The S (talk) 23:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE

I obviously said something that offended you, and I apoligise for that; still don't know what I did, though. And I will point this out: I live in California, you live in England. There is an eight hour time difference there. I wrote that message at 2:00AM for me, which would be roughly 10:00AM for you. After that, I went to sleep, and then had a dental apointment that I had to go to: I just got home around 11:45AM for me.

I have no idea on how to start a workgroup: if I can start it just by making the page, than I will do that when I finish this message. Managing the few and far between people that work on the One Piece pages without any form of base would, as I said before, be like herding cats.

And I need to reiterate this again: the whole arguement for the mass merger has broken down to little more than "not sourced correctly"; all the things with WP:N and all the other guidelines, not being sourced correctly. That's it. And, the plot synopsis is not needed, but we do not need to get rid of it either: WP:PLOT says that plot synopses are fine to have, and long is the page is not one giant one; (although, an arguement may be made for any information on fictional charaters being nothing but plot synopsis of some sort).

And to point this out: anything or anyone can be summed up in three paragraphs or even less. Does that mean that we need to limit the information because it can be summed up?(Justyn (talk) 20:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Userfy and compare?

Hey Angel, I noticed the merge proposal that you have been working on over at Talk:List_of_One_Piece_characters#Merger. Would you be willing to go ahead and create a subpage of your vision of how the list/merger should look? Looking through the discussion, it appears that you have been one of the most reasonable contributers, and I think that your suggestions have the best chance of being implemented. Thanks for your hard work. —Cronholm¹⁴⁴ 20:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Test page

Hi Angel Embrfl, I notice that you created a test page in the Wikipedia mainspace. You might not be aware, but this is cause for the page to be speedily deleted. I would suggest that you start a sub page (something like User:Angel Emfrbl/testpage) for any future testing you want to do. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Cheers, faithless (^speak) 11:02, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mihawk's Sword

It actually is a Grosses Messer, just an exaggerated version of one. I don't know if it's entirely relevant to the article, but it is a nice little tidbit of information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimilio D. Ark (talk • contribs) 13:51, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Regardless of what the sword is named, the type of blade is a Grosses Messer. It fits the profile exactly. Whether or not it makes it into the article doesn't concern me, as it's more of a trivia tidbit. Ark (talk) 18:50, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

The article you linked to cites no references, and I honestly couldn't care less what type of sword it is. Ark (talk) 03:03, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:Test page: One Piece Characters

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[edit] Usopp article

I replaced the Usopp article with a slimmer model. If you're not too busy, take a look and leave me feedback. A little help watching over the page for the next few days so it doesn't get reverted would be great too. Thank you. Ark (talk) 19:53, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I've been going through the interviews myself, scrounging for even the tiniest bit of information. I got some decent Oda quotes for Luffy and Chopper, but that' all I could find. I hope you can do better. Ark (talk) 12:54, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I got bored today and did the Sanji and Nico Robin articles. They're far from complete, Sanji is missing some information from the SBS like his kicking power (measured in baseball bats he can kick through) and some other stuff I can't remember right now. Robin's history probably needs a rewrite as it's very rough at the moment, and could probably be shortened. I'll add the info and do the rewrite as soon as I get more time. I scrounged the SBS archives on AP for information, and threw in as many references as I could. I'll be moving on to Franky, Chopper and Luffy once I get the other four to a point where they're satisfactory. Once the Straw Hats are complete I'll move on to the various organizations; Baroque Works is high on my priority list as is the Shichibukai article. Ark (talk) 03:33, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] On TTN

TTN is beyond insufferable; I've made it no secret that I dislike him; he is what epitimises the modern Deletionist; someone that games the system so that they can delete pages for lulz. If he dosn't stop with this abuse and ignoration of the system I'll have not choice but to ask for an admin's asistance or even request for arbitration. (Justyn (talk) 16:50, 18 January 2008 (UTC))

If he does go through with what he claims, we will have him dead to rights shattering the concensus. I have yet to say it flat out yet, but I am fine with merging pages that cannot meet the minimum set down by the notability guidelines, I am not fine with the massive merge that TTN is dead set on. Conversely, if one of the characters on one of the lists can have sources that prove notability, I am more than fine with said character having an article.

Just to point out, I tend to lean on the side of "when in doubt, leave it be" for this kind of stuff. TTN has made it obvious that he has no interest in anything but merging the pages: he has pounded this point home without actualy saying it. (Justyn (talk) 19:14, 18 January 2008 (UTC))

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[edit] Luffy

I've updated the Monkey D. Luffy page with several references to his creation, and have rewritten pretty much everything that was i the article. I think it works much better this way, being more clear and concise than previous versions. Check it out and leave criticism. Ark (talk) 04:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Red Hairs

Wow, you caught that one fast. Thanks for the error checks, I'm kind of running on minimal sleep here. Ark (talk) 18:06, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, if anything maybe it will motivate some people to actually start contributing instead of crying when someone brings up a merge proposal. It's laughable how bad some of these pages are, and simply ridiculous how many minor subjects have articles. I had no idea until a few minutes ago that Aokiji and the Buster Call had articles of their own. Ark (talk) 18:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm working on the List of Marines right now, but it's a beast. It'll probably take me several hours just to clean it up, then I have to redirect some of the articles, like Smoker and Aokiji, unless there's significant info to leave them. I noticed on the Red Hair Pirates talk page you said there is information regarding Shanks' development. If you know off the top of your head where to find it, I'd like to put it in the article, maybe we can get away with Shanks having a page of his own. Ark (talk) 18:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Haha, I knew it was a joke, I was being facetiously over-dramatic ;D So technically my joke backfired. Thank you for the encouragement, it's nice to get a little feedback on the admittedly huge changes I'm making. I also find it a little odd that people are backing up my edits, I honestly expected a lot more opposition. I've tried to make it pretty clear that I'm only improving the quality of the articles, so maybe that helps a little. As for TTN, he's proposing an eventual merge to one single list for all characters, something I'm completely against. Ark (talk) 12:15, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Yea, I'd say we pretty much fail at intra-webs humor ¬_¬;; Ark (talk) 22:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Brook

One question, have you read the latest chapter? If so read the final panel. I am basing the edits on facts. I'll be happy to argue the point with you later, but I have to go. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ditch88 (talk • contribs) 00:08, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I'll keep an eye on it, thanks for the heads up. Great work on reverting all the vandalism as of late, I know it's a major pain in the ass, so thanks. Ark (talk) 00:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

As of the latest chapter, whether you agree or not, Brook has joined the crew. I could argue the point on and on, but dont feel like it now. So until YOU feel he has joined go ahead, by all means keep him off the page. Ditch88 (talk) 00:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I've read your criteria for what qualifies as someone joining the crew and I completely disagree! [since its basically your opinion of what defines them joining.] However, I've already said I'll leave the topic alone and up to your discretion, so there is no reason to dispute this further. Ditch88 (talk) 08:46, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Its not my opinion at all. We had the same situation for Franky joining as Brook. You clearly don't know whats going on here. Please talk to me only when you know whats going on. Oh and BTW, no replacing text paragraphs with lists. Wikipedia also prefers paragraphs over lists, its why the Devil Fruits page is not in list format. Angel Emfrbl (talk) 08:50, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

and so you argue on. Ditch88 (talk) 09:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Free advice; If you don't want an argument - don't reply, that leaves things open for me to reply to, like now. I choose to be silent when I want to and inccidently, in this case I have the right to as its my talk page! Angel Emfrbl (talk) 10:10, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Will of D

Since you're opposed to a list, what would you suggest? The paragraph [for lack of a more accurate term] is pointless. Besides the names, the little tid bits of information added are not needed. Especially that last bit about "no female.." So since you keep reverting it, what would you suggest? Ditch88 (talk) 08:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Its a page of speuclation. Its needs deleting so there isn't anything to discuss. I'm actualy trying to get a discussion over it going so we can decide what to do with it. Angel Emfrbl (talk) 08:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Priests

Good call merging God Ener into the rest of his gang, I'd pretty much forgotten that I had to do that. I'll make time tomorrow to go through the page and do whatever needs doing. Thanks for the support! Ark (talk) 13:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] One Piece game

I figure I'll just wait until the Brook article is in a stable condition before re-uploading the image, then slap it one there, unless a better one is used. I'll do what I can with the game article, but I haven't played it, so I'm a little unfamiliar with it. I'll just check gamespot or something about the game play and do what I can to make it look decent. Thanks for the heads up. I cleaned up the Thriller Bark article today, I don't know if it's gonna end up being merged or what, but there was an excess of cruft on it. Ark (talk) 19:04, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree, I don't think it's necessary to merge every single pirate crew into a single list, it would just end up looking extremely ugly. Ark (talk) 23:50, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Popularity polls

Do you know which volume the first character popularity poll is in? I found the second one in Volume 24, and I want to put the results in the current articles to give them some more out-of-universe weight, but I'd like to have the results from the first one as well so I can just put both in at the same time. I would dig it up myself, but I have work. Ark (talk) 13:49, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Editing Help?

Its been awhile since I've been on wikipedia. I would like to help edit and try to clean up OP and other sections. Do you need any help? I'm not sure where to start since its been so long and so many articles were deleted. Gune (talk) 04:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually that was completely my fault. Sorry about that. I misread the sentence a bunch of times since I was tired. Also on the Straw Hat Pirates crew strength section it says "Despite only having a few members, the Straw Hats are an extremely powerful crew, regularly defeating opponents considered beyond their abilities" Is there a way to reword the "regular defeating opponents considered beyond their abilities" part? Not all of the pirates listed under that sentence were more powerful than them. Gune (talk) 08:42, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm curious about something. When has Oda spelled "beli" as Berry or Belly? I want to change that because I have only ever seen Beli or Beri. Is there somewhere official I can see where he has ever done that? Gune (talk) 17:34, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Its ethier Beri or Beli, both would be correct. This if yor doing direct romani-whats-it-called. If your translating it, my understanding would be that it would come out "Berry" or "Very" as a singlaur version. most go with "Berry". Hence: Berries. Since rs and ls are the same in Japanese, Bellies comes from this. Angel Emfrbl (talk) 22:26, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

They are putting up the Devil fruit page for deletion. Do you have any good reasons for it to be kept? Thats one page that obviously shouldn't be deleted. It has enough information to even warrant a page. Its just another page up for deletion for no good reason. The list of devil fruits is also up for deletion but that could just be merged into the devil fruit page. Gune (talk) 09:25, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Revert at Nami (One Piece)

Could you tell me why you performed this when I had changed the color to something that was clearly orange?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 06:27, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bad faith revert at Roronoa Zoro‎

Why did you undo my helpful edit as vandalism [3]? I simply alphabetized the categories, added one, and changed "Fictional martial artists" to "Anime and manga martial artists" (notice I once did something similary for Luffy). Please reply on your talk page, Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 16:22, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

If you're not going to reply then I will undo the edit. Again, why have "Fictional martial artists" over the sub-cat "Anime and manga martial artists" and not use alphabetical order? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:41, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Not that I refuse to reply, didn't realise it (wasn't paying attention), or I didn't log on that day... One of the two reasons. I wasn't meaning to change that one, it was another category I reverted, that got caught alongside it. Angel Emfrbl (talk) 11:10, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of List of One Piece story arcs

I have nominated List of One Piece story arcs, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of One Piece story arcs. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 04:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I create that page? Couldn't remember... Oh wells, its no loss in truth. The Wikia covers it already. Angel Emfrbl (talk) 11:10, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] There goes another one

The devil fruit page was deleted. Complete ridiculous. No wonder I left wiki before. Is there a way to bring it back or merge it into somewhere? Gune (talk) 03:06, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Looks like One Piece terms‎ is now up for deletion. We need that article to stay. How can we keep it? Gune (talk) 07:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

This guy is supposed to give a chance. You can't just put up a page for deletion for no reason like he did. Only horrible wikipedia editors do something like that. Gune (talk) 22:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

It shouldn't be up for deletion. I mean all he did was put the template up without even a consensus to keep or delete. Gune (talk) 22:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

The page said it would be deleted in 5 days. So I guess Wiki admins love to go against their own rules. Gune (talk) 08:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

It should actually be brought back because from your claims they deleted it because somebody lied that it was a copyright violation. Its pretty much useless now but I still want to start a discussion somewhere saying it should have never been deleted. I just don't know where to put it. Gune (talk) 09:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

But is there a place to dispute the deletion and have it restored? It should never have been deleted. The admins just looked at something and came to a consensus without any logic or discussion. Gune (talk) 18:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

The "firemen" are at it again. (Hopefully you get that reference) List of One Piece locations is up for deletion now. Using weak arguments yet again for deletion. Gune (talk) 19:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I think I found a loophole. Besides that I checked the pages they linked to using the wiki guidelines and they are weak. They obviously used the wrong ones. Gune (talk) 17:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't even know where to put it though. Maybe we should just wait and use it for other articles if they are up for deletion and try to bring them back later or something. It would also be easier to talk other than here too. Gune (talk) 19:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] June 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from One Piece terms, a page you have created yourself. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, you can place a {{hangon}} tag on the page, under the existing speedy deletion tag (please do not remove the speedy deletion tag), and make your case on the page's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 07:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] *ahem*

This is a form a canvassing and completely inappropriate. I also find it rather odd that you seem to be actively telling me you agree with Wikipedia guidelines and policies, while continuing to bulster and support Gune's actions and encouraging him to "save" the One Piece articles, canvassed Justyn to help save the articles, yet turn around an AfD an article for another series that is no better than many of the One Piece ones that are up for deletion... -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 00:45, 9 June 2008 (UTC)