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August 2005

Some of this stuff should be looked at, particularly the bodies of text advocating against using certain live baits, using circle/barbless hooks, and practicing catch-and-release. The way it worded makes it seem like a disguised soapbox rant directed in second-person. I happen to agree with it for the most part, but that isn't what Wikipedia is for. Not to mention the catch and release section is structured terribly. I may reword them myself...

This topic contains material previously in the fishing article - before I rewrote it!

I don't think this angling article is ideal, I will leave to others who know the subject better to sort it out.

Possibly should be merged with Sport fishing.

Gaius Cornelius 22:05, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Completed

I just now completed a major revision of this article from two different IPs. As a fishery scientist, I feel it's NPOV, but that's not to say that it couldn't stand some improvement. In any case, how do people feel about removing the "Expert" designation from this article?

It is now looking very much better and I think it would be appropriate to remove the expert attention template. Gaius Cornelius 17:42, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Blood sport

Following the same reasoning as can be found in the Fishing discussion page, I move for the removal of the blood sport tag from this article. — Dave 22:06, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Delete: Angling is simply a method of fishing. Angling can be used for food, subsistence or commercial fishing and is not synonymous with sport. Although I agree that sport and recreational fishing are blood sports, angling is a larger term which is not, necessarily, a sport. — Dave 22:06, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Fish pain research

In the interest of balance regarding current fish pain thinking, I have added reference and a link to Prof James Roses' research regarding fish brain structures and the effect these have on the possibility of fish experiencing pain in the same way as humans. I think this reference is appropriate and balances the others which are negative toward angling--Jonathan shields 08:15, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Fish pain research

It seems completely appropriate for this article to note that "angling" has been criticized by animal rights activists for cruelty, but physiological detail about whether or not fish feel pain seems misplaced in this article. That information is useful, but it's information about fish -- not fishing (or angling).YeahIKnow 00:34, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Fish pain

I agree. The removal of all the external links on fish pain has cut away unnecessary detail I think. If Sneddons' research is cited though, I think Roses'should be too. All to often Sneddons research is quoted as "proof" this fish feel pain as humans do while any suggestions to the contrary are ignored. Jonathan shields 13:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Absolutely.SAFTAG 17:55, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Merge with Sport fishing

After looking at the two articles, it seems to be that they could easily be merged together as they cover the same subjects. Radagast83 20:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I chose actually to merge Sport fishing into Fishing for the time being. See the talk page there for more info. Arkyan • (talk) 21:10, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Let's take out the silly bits

1) The debate about "pain" has no real relevance to what should otherwise be a factual account of angling.

2) The instructive matter on how to "xyz", likewise is a distraction and should go somewhere else.

I'm not game to do such a large edit so I'll leave it up for discussion. SAFTAG 17:47, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually the whole C&R bit should be removed as it is duplicated almost verbatim in it's own section.SAFTAG 17:54, 5 August 2007 (UTC)