User talk:Andre Engels

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[edit] Quadrivium

What's your source for "the quadrivium could be considered as the study of number: arithmetic was pure number, geometry was number in space, music number in time, and astronomy number in space and time."? It strikes me as a particular elegant characterization, and I'd like to trace it back to the original formulation.

Ken Mondschein 04:31, 8 March 2007 (UTC) (contact me by e-mailing mondschein-at-fordham.edu)

[edit] What's going on?

I note three vandalisms from your account, immediately followed by reversions. Did someone else use your computer, or were you trying to test our vandalism response?-gadfium 22:33, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Neither. I just felt in the mood to vandalize. And then I felt I had been silly. Then again, Wikipedia is a silly thing anyway, so maybe I should have kept them vandalized. - 81.70.91.207 15:55, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Robot attention to interwikis that are placed in templates

Hi! In a few wikipedias the interwikis of certain project pages, notably the village pumps, are put in templates to simplify the code of the project pages. For example,

• at fy:Wikipedy:Oerlis side interwikis are in fy:Berjocht:De kroech,
• at he:ויקיפדיה:מזנון interwikis are in he:תבנית:מזנון,
• at is:Wikipedia:Potturinn interwikis are in is:Snið:Potturinn, and
• at no:Wikipedia:Tinget interwikis are in no:Mal:Tinget-topp.

Do you know if, and how, the robots can be programmed not to put interwikis in those pages, but automatically put them in the respective templates, or must we clean up in each case? Is there some other, robot-related forum where such things could be discussed? (BTW, some users feel that interwikis should not be put in templates at all, because linking should be easy – especially for "newbies". But that's quite a different issue.) I'll watch your user talk, so you may reply here. Thanks. --Eddi (Talk) 11:43, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

They could be programmed that way, but I see no better way to do it than by specifying each and every such page by hand (ugly!). I'm not going to do it, I've had it with Wikipedia, and I've had it with the bot. Go to wikibots-l (just Google it or so). Farewell. - 81.70.91.207 15:57, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your assistance. :) Sorry for intruding. :| --Eddi (Talk) 18:41, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Germany is being replaced by a category

Hello! You were listed on the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Germany page as living in or being associated with Germany. As part of the Wikipedia:User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, or one of the Bundesland-based subcategories, please visit Category:Wikipedians in Germany for instructions. --Angr (tɔk) 14:46, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

No, I should be off... I moved out of Germany a year and a half ago. - Andre Engels 12:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canada

Just because I'm curious - why did you revert the Canada article to a version that apparently is from May 2005, without even using an edit summary? Sam Vimes 15:03, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the warning, I must have been asleep or something... I intended to revert a single previous edit rather than a whole bunch of them - and it seems that the edit I wanted to revert wasn't on the page in the first place. I must have hit 'save page' in the wrong window or something like that. - Andre Engels 07:54, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I think I already know what happened: I saw the error on a Wikipedia mirror, and used the link from there to the article, but it linked to the old version that they had copied rather than the current one. I then corrected that old version, causing me to unintendedly revert all subsequent edits. How I missed the "You are editing an old version of the page" warning, I still do not know. - Andre Engels 08:41, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Ah, makes some kind of sense. Thanks for clearing it up :) Sam Vimes 08:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiholism and Meta

In a good faith environment, changes are made because the Wikipedians on a Wikipedia want them, not because a single Wikipedian from another Wikipedia wants them. - Andre Engels 19:08, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

What are you trying to say? I do not like your attitude. --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 19:39, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] hi

May I add that I find very peculiar that Cool Cat feels allowed to change these pages without consulting the local communities first, even re-reverting after he has been reverted in two occasions (es: and fr:), yet gets angry with his opponents for reverting him on other wikis than their own? I also find his remarks here and here to sound like he has very little feeling for community. "It should not bring a lot of stress - I did a lot of work on this, it should just be blanked - do what you want with the page, you're causing me unnecessary stress". As for Anthere threatening to block you: Doing an edit then reverting it does sound like trying to 'force' to me. Your mileage may vary, but just realize that in many non-English Wikipedias there is much resistance against (real or imagined) 'imperialism' from en:. Barging in and make changes because you like them when others don't is not going to increase your popularity.

Addition: The block threat was based on a message to me on the wikipedia-l list, see here and here. Anthere reacted here, apparently hearing of them for the first time and getting quite enraged. - Andre Engels 13:16, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

I dont care about my popularity or wikipolitics. I never had any popularity in the first place. I got harrased constantly by individuals unlike anyone else.

I have been reverted by same people interwiki even when I discussed it with the comunities on IRC and they said it was a good idea. Local comunities who liked the meta idea were also reverted. See th and ja wikipeida. I do not care what goes on wikipedia-l. I blanked to take comunities attention. Posting on talk pages no one looks at will not get anyones attention.

I will revert war on against french wikipedians on japanese wikipedia. If the japanese comunity decided they dont do meta then I would backed down as I did on Nl note that i did so with great disapointment.

never the less I thank you for posting liks to the mailing list. I did not even know about it prior.

--Cool Cat^Talk|@ 13:35, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

I also dont like you talking to me in 3rd person on my talk page. --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 13:38, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

One key thing, my actions indended to make meta more multi lingual and less of an english only cabal and hence by nature was "anti-imperialist" --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 18:42, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anti vandal script

What are you using to revert vandalism. WP has had a couple fairly big attacks in the last couple of days with a user replacing pages with an image. Do you have a script that I could use that would revert all pages with the said image / edit summary quickly, we had aprox a 400 edit vandalbot in the span of 5 min and a bout would be very very useful. Thanks Tawker 05:39, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia in Tetum

• Help building a Wikipedia in Tetum, the national language of East Timor. Give your contribution to the improvement of its test page -- Regards, 195.23.53.121 11:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC) Manuel de Sousa

[edit] Please check your WP:NA entry

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[edit] Image:Beiserebatedor.jpg

Hi,

I noticed the source web address you cited for Image:Beiserebatedor.jpg now gets a "page missing" error. Can you locate the source? The photo of course looks like a typical agency photo and unlikely to really be freely usable, hence my looking for the source. Thanks - Tempshill 19:42, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi - thanks for the answer - I copied and pasted that Portuguese phrase over to the page for support. Unfortunately an exact URL is required or eventually the photo will be deleted. Tempshill 18:36, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

The copyright status of photos you upload needs to be verifiable by other editors. Wikipedia:Verifiability is the related policy. If you don't provide an exact source - in the case of a website, meaning an exact URL - then it may not be possible for other editors to verify the copyright status, and your image might be tagged for deletion. I'm not going to tag it because I believe you, but others might not, and would be justified in tagging it. On your statement about self-taken photos, at present the statement that a photo is self-taken is enough. I can see how this is not verifiable, so my bet is that in 10 years the policy will have changed to something where they have to provide some proof that they themselves took the photo ... but I'm speculating about the future. Tempshill 22:04, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

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If you were more careful with your edits and did not just revert my reversion without considering my comments I would not have to waste my time by reverting again. Please play as part of the team. Xtra 13:17, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Whatsup?

Hi André,

Did I miss something? Or was your blanking of my user page accidental? You can always leave me a note on my user talk page... --Francis Schonken 15:00, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Loved your talk on the Ontological argument, should go in main text :) mr_happyhour

Apr 2006

[edit] Age of consent

Hi, just wondering what your thinking is behind removing the two articles from the Further reading section of Age of consent? I didn't add them myself, I did move them into Further reading from the main article, however. --Monotonehell 10:33, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't see them as being important to the subject of the page - at most they can function as source/evidence for a statement that sometimes persecution takes place for AOC where the perpetrator and 'victim' are later married. - Andre Engels 10:38, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I was in two minds about them myself. They are as you say just two examples, but since we're discussing law on that page they can be seen as precendent or enforcement of precendent. So as I said, I stood on the fence and moved them from the article to the Further reading. These are the kinds of links that have been the subject of edit wars and I wouldn't be suprised if they pop up again in the future. lol cheers for your input --Monotonehell 14:58, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Long talk page

Greetings! Your talk page is getting a bit long in the tooth - please consider archiving your talk page (or ask me and I'll archive it for you). Cheers! BD2412 T 23:26, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

DO WHATEVER YOU FUCKING LIKE. I DON'T CARE. WHY DON'T YOU ALL JUST GO HOME AND SHUT UP? FUCKERS! - Andre Engels 23:46, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Wonderful! I shall take care of it for you, then. Have a cheerful day! BD2412 T 21:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed Georgia Move

As a past participant in the discussion on how to handle the Georgia pages, I thought you might be interested to know that there's a new attempt to reach consensus on the matter being addressed at Talk:Georgia (country)#Requested_Move_-_July_2006. Please come by and share your thoughts to help form a consensus. --Vengeful Cynic 04:12, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Romanian Wikipedia bot flag removed

The Romanian community decided to remove the bot flag for your bot Robbot because it has not been used intensely for some time and has less edits. If you want to run back the bot sometime please re-request the bot flag approval at requests for robots. -Romihaitza 08:22, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Kite.png listed for deletion

[edit] Work getting backed up on Commons due to bureaucrats possibly on vacation.

I applied for a bot flag on Commons:Commons:Administrators but unfortunately, the other Bureaucrats appear to be away on summer vacations. This proposal has been on the list for than two weeks has 9-0 votes in favour. Sent a message to village pump requesting Bureaucrat action last week, but still nothing. The bot is mostly doing category maintenance at this time and further work is being held up because it is flooding the RC list (recent run made 60K edits) making RC useless to folks. I have voluntarily held off any further runs since it appeared folks really preferred that.

But there are a number of things that I need to have the Bot do. Could you take a look and give it a flag? -Mak Thorpe 00:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

BTW- Thanks very much for your work on the Python scripts in pywikepedia.

[edit] Interlingua interwiki sorting order

Why have you mandated a different interwiki sorting order for the Interlingua wikipedia? I personally disagree with it. -- Dissident (Talk) 11:18, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] your bot at ar wiki

Please check our Bot page. Your Bot could get blocked. --Tarawneh 16:59, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Bibliotheek.jpg listed for deletion

[edit] Image:Rigging8..png listed for deletion

[edit] Image tagging for Image:Pioneer.jpg

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[edit] bot @ sq wiki

Please, could you apply for a bot flag on sq wiki here. Bet_0

[edit] Link spam

Hi. May I ask you to please explain why you remove the external links as "link spam" from articles like Dmytro Horbachov, Alexander Bogomazov, and others? I do noth think they are link spam, as they are examples of the artist's works. —dmytro/s-ko/ 02:35, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars

Hi I am message you because you contributed a section to Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars

• Help other wikipedians enjoy Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars even more

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[edit] A request for assistance

Would you support the concept of moving the Earhart "myths" to a separate page or article? The reason for my suggesting this is that the main article should be an accurate and scholarly work while the speculation and conspiracy theories surrounding the disappearance of Amelia Earhart are interesting, they belong in a unique section. Most researchers, as you know, discount the many theories and speculation that has arisen in the years following her last flight. Go onto the Earhart discussion page and register your vote/comments...and a Happy New Year to you as well. Bzuk 02:50 3 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Image:Jigsaw pieces.jpg

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[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Skunk.jpg

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[edit] Robbot

Your robot falsely removed assassination interwiki link to 'simple english' wiki. Please check so this thing doesn't happen. Thanks you. MadMaxDog 05:35, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually looking at the simple english linked article finds that murder and assassination are two 'articles' on one page. Not sure if that is their style, but that is why I said your removal was wrong. MadMaxDog 09:05, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nozomsite

geocities.com/nozomsite Is a real and related website with real data, please remove it from the blacklist, thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 196.202.46.13 (talk) 01:51, 8 February 2007 (UTC).

I agree that the site is real and may on some pages be related, but I also agree that it has been heavily spammed onto Wikipedia pages. Block kept. - Andre Engels 09:27, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

And if it is related, why you have considered it a spam. By the way, it has two links in the human edited web directory DMOZ, just search for Nozomsite.(196.202.46.13 04:26, 9 February 2007 (UTC))

Not all related links are wanted on Wikipedia, far from it. And making such links to the same site from many articles is considered spam. Try complaining with someone else, I won't change my mind. Not based on your arguments at least. - Andre Engels 08:18, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

"Try complaining with someone else", You can be polite a little bit more mr. admin, you are disappointed. (196.202.46.13 17:16, 9 February 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Yiddish wikipedia request from your bot

First of all we thank u for putting all the interwikis first in English then in second Hebrew, we would like to organize deutsch-german to be the third since our Yiddish languge originates from German, and this will help allot to term articles and wording according to its parent language after comparing the English and Hebrew options which is intertwined in modern Yiddish. thanks. also if you can organize this that other bots should note it as well. thanks. --yidi 17:45, 5 March 2007 (UTC)yi:באנוצער:יודל

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Jigsaw pieces.jpg

[edit] Christoph Metzelder

Your bot takes zh:克里斯托弗·梅策爾德 off of the Christoph Metzelder page. What exactly is wrong with it? Kingjeff 18:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

It is a problem with the traditional/simplified orthography. If you go to the page 克里斯托弗·梅策爾德 on zh:, you get to 克里斯托弗·梅策尔德. However, the bot uses Special:Export, and on Special:Export, such an alternative orthography does not give a text, so the bot thought the page did not exist. I have now had the bot change the link to 'standard' orthography, so the link will not be removed by bots any more. - Andre Engels 19:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Minneapolis

		The Original Barnstar
		To Andre Engels, on the occasion of Minneapolis, Minnesota reaching featured article. -Susanlesch 21:47, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Coat of arms

Thank you very much for your help. --EncycloPetey 18:57, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Robert Lucas

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[edit] in dem Artikel über die Grönländische Wirtschaft (Wikipedia on English)

...gibt es Folgendes:

"Oil - consumption:

0 bbl/day (2004 est.)

Oil - consumption:

3,860 bbl/day (2004 est.)"

So, what is with the oil-consumption in this region?It seems to me, that one of them is oil-production. Uuu87 10:44, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Uuu87 11:29, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your help

Thanks for reverting vandalism on Larrys Creek on October 19. I appreciate your help keeping the article presentable while it was Today's Featured Article very much, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 18:55, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please get a bot flag at bpy@wiki

Dear Andre Engels or Robbot,

Bishnupriya Manipuri Wiki likes to thank you for your hard work. Your bot makes a huge edit everyday, so it is hard for us to keep track for recent changes. To solve this problem we would like to request you to have a bot flag. Please request your bot here. Visit the local page first for your bot request. Since we do not have a bureaucrat please go to the m:Requests_for_bot_status for bureaucrat's aproval. Thanks--Usingha (talk) 03:18, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] To return the sysop rights

Hi Andre,

I am an administrator on Marathi Wikipedia.

I would like to return the sysop rights since I would not be able to give time for this responsibility.

I am requesting you because you had granted me those rights three years ago.

I hope somebody who is more active than me can make justice with it.

I shall also drop a message to Marathi Wikipedia community on its village-pump equivalent page.

Thanks for your time.

Harshal (talk) 14:50, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Twat

After I saw your user page saying "I am a twat", we spent a good two minutes discussing it in IRC (trying it figure out if you used the wrong word) before I realized it was vandalism. Raul654 (talk) 07:21, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Miranda

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[edit] - Just Wanted To Know

Hello Andre,

My name is Jonathon and I like to help out a lot and recently I noticed a lot of very interesting and important information has not been added to Wikipedia. So, I was wondering if there was ANY way that I could contribute to the site with my knowledge or spare time. Monday-Friday I am usually completely free from 2:15pm to roughly 12:00M. I don't really do much at all during the week unless its a holiday so I was hoping there would be something for me to do. I would say I am rather qualified for editing or moderating as I have been a MIRC Moderator before, this was a ways back, but I Moderated there. I am very knowledgeable of a vast amount of topics and I have access to countless encyclopedias and what some might call historical documents (not the originals of course, just written copies, but I am sure I could find some carbon or original copies at the Library or Town Hall). I am also great with grammar and spelling as you can probably tell by now. Though I am not as advanced as some of my entire-site-making friends I have practices HTML Codes as well.

Like I said I have a LOT of free time on my hands and I am always willing to help out a good cause and this site which I imagine is here to inform the world in a safe and slightly interactive (editable) environment. So if you find something that I might be able to assist with or there are any non-profit (assuming they all are :P ) jobs on the site I would be happy to take them on.

Sincerely,

John006a (talk) 02:02, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Jonathon Andrews

[edit] Proposed deletion of Iris magazine

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