Talk:Andy Pettitte

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Contents 1 Draft 2 Citation 3 2005 BB/SO 4 Mitchell Report Complaint 5 Steriod use 6 Steroids

[edit] Draft

Something is wrong with the draft date. He wasn't drafted in 1983 when he was 11 years old. Should that be 1993?

• According to External links, he was drafted in 1990 and signed in 1991. —ERcheck @ 02:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

This article has him signed as a free agent after being drafted which simply isn't true. He was drafted and was signed after a waiting period, a process called Draft and Follow open only to Juco players. An amateur free agent is something entirely different in which the free agent is not selected at all in the draft and is thus open to normal free agency.

[edit] Citation

Does anyone have a citation for Pettitte saying he'd like to break the Yankees' all-time wins record? I've never heard him say that, and his behavior to this point isn't consistent with such a desire. -- TheyCallMeBruce @ 16:25, 13 March, 2007

[edit] 2005 BB/SO

The article says his BB/SO ratio in 2005 was 4.17. It is the inverse of this according to the stats page referenced in that line.

[edit] Mitchell Report Complaint

Tainting his time w/ the Yankees and the 4 WS titles? Whoever wrote this apparently was not aware that HGH was not made illegal in MLB until 2002, after which Pettitte won all 4 WS championships (the last one is in 2000). Pettitte was not guilty of anything unless he continued using HGH after 2002. How does this taint it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.3.85.240 (talk) 20:34, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

In case anyone was wondering, this is the only thing the report specifically says about Pettitte's alleged usage. From Page 176

"From April 21 to June 14, 2002, Pettitte was on the disabled list with elbow tendonitis. McNamee said that Pettitte called him while Pettitte was rehabilitating his elbow in Tampa, where the Yankees have a facility, and asked again about human growth hormone. Pettitte stated that he wanted to speed his recovery and help his team. McNamee traveled to Tampa at Pettitte’s request and spent about ten days assisting Pettitte with his rehabilitation. McNamee recalled that he injected Pettitte with human growth hormone that McNamee obtained from Radomski on two to four occasions. Pettitte paid McNamee for the trip and his expenses; there was no separate payment for the human growth hormone." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Averyisland (talk • contribs) 04:30, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Please, the man is a cheater. Yankee homers, please just admit that you cheated and move on. 2k3 ALCS belongs to the sox. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.149.36.130 (talk) 17:58, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Steriod use

Since he admitted to using HGH to recover from an elbow injury, shouldn't the word allegation be dropped from that section heading? ~Sasha Callahan _(Talk) 22:50, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Reference 7 is wrong. The Mitchell report never alleges Pettitte took steroids -- only HGH. They are completely different, but both are performance enhancing substances. See the Mitchell Report: http://files.mlb.com/mitchrpt.pdf and the statement by Pettitte: http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1786&Itemid=49

I don't have an account and the page is locked, so someone should clean this up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.97.116.93 (talk) 14:12, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Steroids

"In 2002 I was injured. I had heard that human growth hormone could promote faster healing for my elbow,"

"I have the utmost respect for baseball and have always tried to live my life in a way that would be honorable," he said. "If I have let down people that care about me, I am sorry, but I hope that you will listen to me carefully and understand that two days of perhaps bad judgment should not ruin a lifetime of hard work and dedication.

"I have tried to do things the right way my entire life, and, again, ask that you put those two days in the proper context. People that know me will know that what I say is true," he said.

The Yankees backed Pettitte.

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10531317 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.138.145.133 (talk) 07:25, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

First off, HGH isn't an anabolic steroid. Second, what are you trying to say? ~Sasha Callahan _(Talk) 07:33, 16 December 2007 (UTC)