Talk:Andrew Young

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[edit] Article Quality

Wow, so this is what a crappy article looks like. I've rarely come across something that was so raw. And I'm just basing that on the first couple of sentences. Tagged for cleanup. Unschool 04:36, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, the only result of what I've done (primarily structure, but also moved things around so that they made more sense and didn't repeat) is that it is now obvious that this article is little more than a big stub. I know so little about this guy; would someone who knows about his years as mayor and his years in the civil rights movement please add some material?

and can we also get his contact information? Wikipedia is constantly being updated, I see no reason why it shouldn't also work as a directory for these people.

Unschool 05:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

This is a good foundation for a strong article. At least it doesn't begin with a bunch of crappy alternating POVs that we see on elected officials. 66.92.13.251 21:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

There was never any legislated segregation in Rhodesia - I think the author must be confusing this with South Africa. There was, however, "white minority rule", I suggest you change this--Acrooney (talk) 11:15, 25 April 2008 (UTC)acrooney

[edit] Latest Comments from Andre Young

The latest flap involving Mr. Young had him telling the Los Angeles Sentinel, "Those are the people who have been overcharging us — selling us stale bread, and bad meat and wilted vegetables. And they sold out and moved to Florida. I think they've ripped off our communities enough. First it was Jews, then it was Koreans and now it's Arabs, very few black people own these stores."

The comment he made while working with Wal-Mart seems to have been tucked away in this article, almost hiding it. I think the fact that a civil rights leader made a racist remark like this in just the last year should be given it's own section, since it seems odd to have it right after a part about him considering a senate run, since they're almost completely unrelated. The information given on the incident is about as lengthy as the information provided for the Laugh Factory outburst on Michael Richard's page, and that got it's own section.

url: http://www.nysun.com/article/38255

I've seen other wiki pages that have a 'Controversies' section. I recommend adding such a section for public controversies. Keeping in mind the section MUST NOTE offer an opinion or state as fact. It must on cite reporting of other news sources or public records.

Spencer leon (talk) 22:55, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Recent edits, particularly about Mugabe

I've removed what appeared to be an attempt at a hatchet job.

I've also come back and removed, for now, references to a book by Richard Cummings called Pied Piper. It seems to be a biography of a politician called Allard K. Lowenstein (see book description on Amazon).

Now it may be a very interesting book, and it could even be accurate. However I don't think it can be taken on its own (as the words I have removed certainly implied) as a definitive account of Young's dealings as US Ambassador.

In fact it looked to me like another attempt to insert opinions into Wikipedia (which is fine if the opinions are important enough) under the guise of universally agreed fact (which isn't fine at all if the statements are just something somebody wrote in a book). --Anticipation of a New Lover's Arrival, The 23:20, 14 May 2008 (UTC)