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"She was the editor of a literary page in the school's paper[...]"

Can anyone find out what the school paper was called?

"In later years her health has been uncertain; she was forced to move to Florida in November 1966 and now lives in Tennessee."

Does this mean we don't know about her health or that it was variable? Who or what forced her to move to Florida and how was she then able to move to Tennessee?

"Often called the Grande Dame of Science Fiction and Fantasy[...]"

By whom?

"She has had a profound influence on the entire genre"

Do any other authors cite her as inspiration? Are there sales figures or awards to back this up?

I think answers to any or all of these question would help fill out the article. I found this article through Special:Randompage. If anyone feels like answering some of these questions I'd invite you to answer this one while you're at it: which of her books should I read first? —Rory ☺ 21:37, Aug 11, 2004 (UTC)

All good questions. I have answered the ones I could. I couldn't find the name of her school paper, for instance. Her web site mentions that her health forced her to move but gives few details. All the authors I put in have interviews that mentioned her. (ie Charles de Lint I grew up on Andre Norton, Clifford Simak, Philip Jose Farmer, Roger Zelazny, and the like).

I recommend the original Witch World books with Simon Tregarth first. The Witch World and Web of the Witch World. From there Three against the Witch World and Warlock of the Witch World. She has written an awful lot of books, many of which I haven't read :) The Steve 04:20, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Splitting off series into separate articles 2 missing books 3 Android at Arms 4 Gutenberg links---please link to the catalog. 5 The bibliography section is redundant. 6 Alan E. Nourse 7 Bibliography Corrections 8 Collaborator? 9 Lyn McConchie 10 Separate Bibliography of Andre Norton

[edit] Splitting off series into separate articles

I reckon that the Witch World series and the Halfblood Chronicles, just to mention two, need to be split off into separate articles. This would make it easier to reference them from the articles for other collaborators, of which there are at least 5 (by my quick & dirty count). If no-one objects wildly, I'll get to it when I can. --Phil | Talk 13:12, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] missing books

I have in my notes that the following books are missing from this list, but I have not verified them or put them in the correct series. --ssd 06:03, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This is also missing her historical romance stuff like "Opal-Eyed Fan", "The Jade Fox", "Ride Proud Rebel" and its sequel "Rebel Spurs", and so on...

• She published over 130 books, and at the present the list is 20+ books shy of that mark. — RJH 23:44, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• According to my research she has published 213 titles as books, 91 titles as short stories, and 23 books where she was editor, this does not count non-fiction writtings. --Lotsawatts 14:19, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Please add to this list and delete from it as necessary:

• Brother to shadows
• Shadow of Ablion
• Day of the Ness, The
• Iron cage
• Mirror of destiny
• Scent of magic
• Tiger burning bright
• Wizards' worlds
• Opal-Eyed Fan (historical romance)
• The White Jade Fox
• Ride Proud Rebel OCLC: 1636603
• Rebel Spurs (sequel to Ride...)
• Return to Quag Keep (according to Dragon Magazine's obituary (#332 June 2005) she was colaborating with Jean Rabe on this sequal to 1978's Quag Keep when she died, jean will complete it and it will be publish in early 2006.)

I have added many books by looking in the OCLC WorldCat database and getting info from there. I believe all of Andre's books published before 1950 1960 are now listed. I didn't do a comprehensive check of the others yet. (WorldCat is an excellent source of info and is probably provide online by your local library. Ask them for further details.) Liblamb 21:13, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

I have a work of sci-fi by Andre Norton, Breed to Come, Viking Press, New York, First Edition, 1972 (haven't read it yet). The second leaf of the book has this list:

Also by Andre Norton

Exiles of the Stars

Ice Crown

Uncharted Stars

The Zero Stone

Moon of Three Rings

Quest Crosstime

I've crossed out the ones that are listed already. I have not yet found Breed to Come or Ice Crown listed. Alexander 007 09:05, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

All above listed books added. There are others listed in WorldCat. Liblamb 20:20, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Another good book is Operation Time Search (Harcourt, Brace & World, Inc., 1967) (does this fall under Liblamb's WorldCat remark above?)

[edit] Android at Arms

I am pretty sure that Android at Arms was published earlier than 1993. I read it in grade school, probably around 1980. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.93.38.161 (talk)

The ISFDB dates it to 1971. If you still have a copy, could you check the copyright date that it lists? grendel|khan 00:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Android At Arms first published - HARCOURT, 0-152-03497-8, LCCN 77152695, 1971, HC, 253pg - --Lotsawatts 14:23, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gutenberg links---please link to the catalog.

I changed a link to a Project Gutenberg etext so that it pointed to the catalog page instead of directly to the HTML version of the etext. Project Gutenberg produces plain text versions and zip files containing the complete HTML-with-images distribution in addition to the online HTML. It also provides for a selection of local mirrors so that the load is distributed off of the main Project Gutenberg site. They request that incoming links point to the catalog page instead of deep-linking directly to one particular version.

I mention this here because it's likely that there will be more PG links---the Gutenberg in-progress list shows at least "The Defiant Agents", "The Gifts of Asti", "Key Out of Time", "Rebel Spurs", "Ride Proud, Rebel!", "Star Hunter", "Storm over Warlock" and "Time Traders" under Andre Norton, and more may be added as the copyright clearance process continues. grendel|khan 00:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The bibliography section is redundant.

More than half of the article is the bibliography section, which provides the same information that's available on the ISFDB. If there are discrepancies, I have access to the ISFDB and can address them. I propose that once the bibliography here is checked against the ISFDB's, that this copy is deleted, moved to a new page (Bibliography of Andre Norton?) or replaced with a category (Books by Andre Norton? see Category:Books_by_Isaac_Asimov). Its present form serves to bloat the page. grendel|khan 00:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alan E. Nourse

Why the text about Alan E. Nourse? It seems irrelevant to me, in regards to Andre Norton. --Kristjan Wager 09:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Because Alan E. Nourse was assumed to be another of her pseudonyms for quite a while. It's not. Gweeks 20:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

It bothers me, and actually, the way it's currently phrased, could lead someone to assume that there was a connection between the two, (other than their close proximity on the library shelves.) Hmmm, we actually don't even have any citation to show that anyone ever did assume Nourse to be one of her pseudonyms. I'm going to try rephrasing it. Marieblasdell 23:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bibliography Corrections

It is my opinion that the entire Bibliography section needs to be reworked. I see many errors and misinformation. For instance when a title is listed and then it is stated (with another name) one assumes that person contributed to the actual writing. Just in the first five titles this happens three times. The names listed were actually the illustrators. I believe it should be stated as such.

The Empire of Dust should be removed for it is a story written by Basil Wells and appears in a booklet titled Science Fantasy Series – Griffin Booklet One - Empire of Dust / Gifts of Asti. The Gifts of Asti is the story by Andre Norton as Andrew North.

Space Police is a collection of (stories) but like Space Pioneers is only edited by Andre Norton. Although she did write the introduction for both.

In the Witch World Listing most of the titles are short stories not books. I could go on but it is not necessary. I agree that the whole bibliography should be its own page, and would be more than willing to contribute to it. Since I’m new by just a couple days to wikipedia in general I guess I’m asking permission. --Lotsawatts 14:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

No need to ask permission. If there are errors, go ye forth and fix. That's the beauty of wiki. Shsilver 14:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Collaborator?

The book "Day of the Ness" lists her collaborator as Michael Gilbert, and this links to the British crime writer of that name. I suspect this may be a false link; the book doesn't appear in Gilbert's own bibliography, and he seems an unlikely collaborator for her, as her genre is quite different from his. Can anyone confirm or deny this link? Jon Rob 09:50, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lyn McConchie

Bit OT, but would someone start the Lyn McConchie article? I know she's a fellow Kiwi but thats about it. Also, is there any info on whether Lyn McConchie is planning to or was given permission to continue some of the series she worked on like the Beast Master series and Estcarp Cycle of the Witch World series (n.b. I've never actually read any of her books and don't know about them in great detail so perhaps they've already finished and this is a dumb question). There are also a few other recent collaborators. One of them is finishing a story which I pressume they were collaborating on. Are and of these likely to work on her series? Nil Einne 18:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

N.B. A number of her collabarations with Lyn were nominated for or won the Sir Julius Vogel Award (due to Lyn McConchie involvement since it's an award for scifi/fantasy books by NZers) Nil Einne 18:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I'll rough out a very stubby start for one - I've known Lyn on and off for a number of years, but haven't seen her in nearly a decade. Grutness...wha? 07:33, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Separate Bibliography of Andre Norton

Bibliography is now complete and up-to-date.

Dipple, Janus & Forerunner series tied together.

Now its up to someone who knows how to create a seperate Bibliography page. For as you can see it is now quite long. --Lotsawatts 02:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I concur - done.  The Steve  14:59, 28 December 2006 (UTC)