Talk:André Gorz
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It doesn't seem right to me that the main text of the article ends with ellipsis... Is that encyclopedic in style? Apart from that, thanks for this article. I may expand it.
81.178.96.74 23:07, 12 December 2006 (UTC)tarma_2002
The article represents the beginnings of comprehensiveness, but it needs to be translated properly. The English is far too Gallic. We don't, for example, say that someone is "condemned to death" unless they've committed a capital crime in a country where the death penalty is practiced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lozere (talk • contribs) 03:00, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Gorz's "breaks" with Sartre
I have revised a few points in the text which speak of there being a "break" and "rupture" between Sartre and Gorz (perhaps a problem in the articles translation) because I don't think it is correct to put it this way. Gorz certainly moved in directions not directly related to Sartre, such as toward ecological politics, and he was critical of Sartre's naivete regarding certain radical tendencies, such as Maoism, but they remained close politically and personally and I don't recall there every being any such break per se. For example, the first break that this text describes allegedly occurred in 1968, but there is Gorz with Sartre and de Beauvoir, obviously a part of the inner circle, in the 1972 film "Sartre par lui-même." Further, in the late 70's, when de Beauvoir was trying to block publication of Bernard-Henri Lévy's interviews with Sartre, she called upon Gorz, considered by her to be a loyal "Sartrean", for assistance. Second, it is stated that Gorz "broke" with Les Temp Modernes in 1974 when, though he was no longer editor in chief, he remained on its editorial board for nearly 10 more years -- a strange "break" indeed. And finally Gorz himself stated in an interview (accompanying the 1980's edition of The Traitor) that Sartre would have been pleased with Gorz's Farewell to the Working Class and Gorz's late, seminal Critique of Economic Reason was not only obviously patterned after Sartre's Critique of Dialectical Reason, but extensively and favorably cites it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcimrman (talk • contribs) 05:45, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree with you.Gorz was never a conflict oriented person. A very indepentent thinker in many way in constant intellectuel change.He "reverted" but never "converted" his thinking. He always goes back to early roots of Labour movement and it´s main issue,the liberation mankind from Wage-slavery that could be find in early Marxist-Humanism though.That was his main goal.And he was also very concrete in his writings.He made concrete proposals fore such ways fore liberations,reflexing and changes his own ideas to fit what he saw as the reality fore how such a change could be done. It not accurate to link him to Toni Negri and "Flambouyant" Postmodernist and Poststructural movement,because he writed in Multitudes.That is "Guilt by assotiation" in my opinion.He writed everywhere where he could bring out his messages.He never lost his way in "snobbish" intellectual metaphysic speculations thought of that movement.He was One the last Humanist of his generation and lived all his life with great heartbeat fore the Alienated Workers especially in in factorys.That's my opion. Jan Milch ,Gothenburg --78.82.252.65 (talk) 05:00, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
