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[edit] Confusing

I've marked this article confusing. This is because large sections of it have not been rewritten from the 1911 Encyclopedia. They are therefore now factually wrong, which is confusing until you realise this. For example, the penal colony section, and the section on the native Andamanese. Francis Irving 22:34, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Flora

What is Siberian coffee? Maybe a mistake or outdated terminology? Maias 07:46, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Andaman People

If nobody objects, I'm going to spin off a separate page about the people, who might not be important on a geopolitical scale, but are of stunning significance as a people with their own culture and language group which may be the last remains of those whic inhabited the entire pacific coastal area, along Asia and the islands to its south and west. Kaz 05:28, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Way to go, Kaz! utcursch 11:00, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
I linked to Andamanese from a section on People in this article. Info on the current demography would be worth mentioning here. --Singkong2005 · talk 02:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] previous stuff

Just noting the 1911ese that I have removed

I removed that the begin to age at about age 40, because that makes no sense to me. Presumably, they age from birth to death just like everyone else. If it means that they reach middle-agedness and all its associated characteristics, then that's hardly remarkable.

I also removed the statement that incest is unknown, because I very strongly doubt it and would like to see some verification.

I removed:

The children are possessed of a bright intelligence. The Andamanese are, indeed, bright and merry companions, busy in their own pursuits, keen sportsmen, naturally independent and not lustful, but when angered, cruel, jealous, treacherous and vindictive.

For reasons that are, perhaps, obvious.

I also removed the statement that there is no idea of government because the second half of the sentence says that each sept has a head (i.e. a government).

Lastly, I didn't take it out, but are they really unable to make fire? And is it true that their language gives "expression to only the most direct and the simplest thought"? Both seem unlikely. Tuf-Kat

[edit] mammal species

The numbers for mammal species don't add up. Correction? Pollinator 17:02, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] tall...

They really reached a height of 5 meters? That's pretty frickin' tall. Gotta be a typo.

I have just re-read 'The Spotted Deer' by JH Williams - author of 'Elephant Bill'. During the 1920's as a forest officer in Burma Williams was charged with an exploration of the Andaman islands to see if timber could be extracted economically with the use of Elephants. The result of the 3 month expedition is highly readable. Originally published by Rupert Hart Davis in London.

[edit] Proposed merging

This article has very much in parallel with the Andaman and Nicobar Islands article. The two groups of islands have very much a common history. I saw that each one has much useful information which the other does not, and a reader getting to only one would miss the information availalbe in the other. .Adam Keller 08:51, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

  • no merge. The Andaman and Nicobar Islands is a political subdivision (in this case, a union territory of India), while the Andaman Islands is a geographic designation (coinciding with the Andaman district, another political subdivision of the UT), similarly for the Nicobars. The distinction could probably be made more clear, and useful info cross-referenced, but the A&I Islands article needs to stand separate from the articles on the geographical and district groupings.--cjllw ʘ TALK 09:23, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment, copied from Andaman and Nicobars talk page: I don't really have a problem with merging, though I am concerned that a combined article could get quite large. I presume that, to be consistent, the Nicobar Islands article would have to be merged as well. Given that much of the history does overlap, there are significant differences in (for example) ecology and ethnology. A combined article would need to have, as well as a section on common history and current administrative status, two large separate sections on the two island groups where they differ. An alternative would be to keep three separate articles but tidy them up considerably and move information from one to another where appropriate to minimise overlap. Maias 04:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
No merge Istead, improve all 3 articles:A&N Islands, Andamans, and Nicobars. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by WoodElf (talk • contribs) 06:01, 4 May 2007 (UTC).
No Merge the Andaman and nicobar islands and the actual andaman islands are seperate, the Andaman and nicobar islands are a 'state' or a 'province, if you get what i mean, and the andamans are just the collection of ilands that are called thatAustralian Jezza 08:30, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Merge proposal tag is now removed/closed, as it's evident there's no consensus to do so. --cjllw ʘ TALK 08:38, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] request for another map

I think it would help article clarity to have another map, showing where they are in the bay of bengal. Not only that, but not all readers will know on which coast of india the bay is... in short, a more "zoomed-out" map might help... unfortunately, I have no experience with mapmaking. Thanks, Storkk (talk) 17:34, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps Image:IndiaAndamanNicobar.png could be svg-fied, and modified to point out which island groups are which, then used on both this page and Nicobar Islands page. --Storkk (talk) 17:37, 21 November 2007 (UTC)