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[edit] Previous Comments

I went ahead and removed a section that said "In Andalucia, there is a large homosexual population. Many men bend each other over on the great fountains in Granada." Didn't think I really needed a vote before I pulled that. Abrokenpuppet 15:36, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

This page is really bad. Someone has to work on it... Most of it is just random, irrelevant and sometimes plainly wrong info on andalusia. I think the whole thing should be erased and translated from the .es page.--83.52.25.80 22:20, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I am erasing the whole section on the origin of the word al andalus and the (unproven) theory of H. Helm. This should go in the section of etymology on the al andalus page. Here, it should suffice to say that "Andalucia" derives from the arabic "Al Andalus", a name which refered to the areas of the iberian peninsula under muslim control.--Burgas00 21:55, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Also erasing the reference to andalusia in Pixie song(??!?). --83.52.25.80 22:20, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I just re-erased the Pixie song reference. Who is the moron who keeps putting this up? I agree that the Spanish version should be translated here... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.223.101 (talk) 19:29, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I added an internal link to Tartessos which holds an important place in the history of Andalusia. Frederick Boca 23:27, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Wasn't it named after the Vandals, i.e. Vandalusia?

See Al-Andalus for discussion of etymology. GCarty 08:39, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Tarshish , mentioned in the story of Jonah is a mythical land. Most of the geography in this Book is eg, Niniveh -hundreds of miles inland has a seashore in Jonah, The reference to Spain is a pleasant romance only, Tarshish was far away Spain was at the edge of the worls so they must be the same place

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[edit] AndaluSia or AndaluCia?

A native bird of Andalucia, the cuckatoo, is known by its rare call which sounds like a Russian man saying, "Pussytwat!, Pussytwat!" ++++

Andalucia is the Spanish name. Andalusia is the English one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Asterion (talk • contribs) , at 19:43, 4 September 2005.


Yes, the English is Andalusia (stress on the u), but the Spanish is Andalucía (stress on the i). These days there is a tendency in both speech and writing to avoid the English spelling in favour of the Spanish one, or at least an attempt at it usually involving forgetting the accent. Even more regrettable is the non-existent adjective "Andalucian", which is neither English (Andalusian) nor Spanish (andaluz). Flapdragon 00:10, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Andalusia Reference

Andalusia is referenced in the Doors song, Spanish Caravan: "Andalusia with fields full of grain / I have to see you again and again..."

[edit] Andalusia pictures

My Internet side http://olafzesewitz.de/gallery/andalusien/ can supply meaningful supplementing pictorial material to the article Andalusia. The pictorial material published there by me is not subject to restrictions of use in this format. It exclusively concerns own digital photos. The decision over screen selection, upload and/or mounting an externally link on my web page I would like to leave to the authors of the article. --ozes


Andalusia (Andalucia) capital´s isnt Malague (Malaga), it´s Seville (Sevilla). Who wrote it?.

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Pueblos blancos arent in Malaga, instead, they are located in Cadiz´s sierra. There´s even a route called "Ruta de los Pueblos Blancos" (Arcos, Ubrique, Bornos...) starting near Seville and finishing in the proximity of the Atlantic Ocean, by Cadiz town.´

[edit] Boundaries: ¿Gibraltar or/and Marruecos?

Marruecos is a country with wich Spain shares a frontier and geographical demarcation (Algeciras is a prominent gateway to North Africa, or to Europe, starting from the south). Gibraltar is much more small to higlight or substitute a whole country.

If Portugal is at the west, Morrocco (Marruecos, en español) is at the south, sharing an ocean frontier with Spain, and land limits at Ceuta y Melilla. A country is much more important than Gibraltar, whose political status is actually being discussed by the British and the Spanish Governments.

I totally disagree.

1. Ceuta and Melilla are not Andalucia, they are independent autonomous comunities.

2. Andalucia never touch phisically Morroco. The fact that you can take boat from Algeciras to Morroco is not enought to call it a boundarie. There are customs in Algecira to take the boat to Morroco but that's because international laws about ports and airports.

For example, if I arrive in a plane from Spain to USA there is a zone of the airport before oficially entering American soil, does that means that Spain shares boundaries with USA?, obviously no. The same is aplicable to any port, including Algeciras.

3. Gibraltar isnt there to substitute anything. Spain and UK may be discussing his status for centuries, but as today it's oficially British territory by any aplicable law.

4. I also disagree with the edit that changes Atlantic Ocean and Mediterranean Sea by Strait of Gibraltar (and deleting Gibraltar, contradicting himself). The south doesn mean the very south, the Strait is only 1% of the total South side of Andalucia. It doens even leave mention to the Mediterranean sea (neither in the east) when it's 90% of the sea boundaries.

I edited everything from scrach to reflect all these details, it makes the paragraph longer but I think it's the more accurate it can be.

I agree with both last posts but it should be mentioned that although Ceuta and Melilla are no longer politically part of Andalucia (they were untill very recently, attached to the provinces of Cadiz and Malaga) they are still culturally (ethnically?) part of Andalucia.

[edit] Vandalusia

>>I believe this article should point out that this region was briefly in control of the vandals, who named this region Vandalusia.

>>--Gortu 17:01, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

>There is no documented source which proves that the region was ever called "Vandalusia". It is just a theory with no basis in fact and no >evidence whatsoever to support it. Have a look at the article of Al Andalus, where the etymology of al andalus is discussed more fully.

At least it would be reasonable to point out the debate, as the spanish article does.

The statement "The name Andalusia is derived from the Arabic name "Al Andalus"" is not corrected. Because the name Andalusia is inherited from the word "Vaudalusia". It was last part of Europe left by Vandals and they give own name this territory.

No. That if just a theory. There is no evidence that al andalus comes from anything to do with Vandals and there is no documented record of Andalusia ever having been called Vandalusia.--Burgas00 12:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it the theory should be mentioned. It is given at Andalusia (disambiguation) and Vandals, but this page pretends the theory doesn't exist, which is a bit inconsistent. Should Vandalusia also be created to redirect here? I came here just to read about the theory and was a bit puzzled before reading the talk page. -- Coffee2theorems | Talk 18:19, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

This article states the only documented fact which is that andalusia comes from Al Andalus. The possible etymologies for the arabic name al andalus (of which vandalusia is only one very dubious theory with no documental evidence or historical backing whatsoever) can be discussed on the relevant page: Al Andalus.--Burgas00 01:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Someone has added reference to Vandalusia again which is getting quite irritating. There is no historical evidence of any place in the world ever having been called Vandalusia. There are 3 main speculations on the name: Read about them in Al Andalus--Burgas00 00:19, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arabic name

This is done to clean up Wikipedia.
I'd like to know why is the Arabic name included? Northern 17:56, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

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The arabic name should be added because for 800 or so years that area was controlled by Arabs. To be historically accurate the name Al-Andalus should be there. --Hfarmer 15:52, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
It is not official, therefore it has been removed. Besides the territory of Al-Andalus was not equal to modern-day Andalusia. Regards, --Asteriontalk 17:36, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External Link

I added a link to "Andalucia on my Mind" It's a travel story connecting Antequera, Ronda and Malaga

Scribbleman 07:04, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Please wait for a response on this talkpage when you announce your intentions to include these Terje Raa travel stories. Don’t include them yourself, as including these links are your only contributions here, you seem to have a conflict of interest. Please wait for community input, thanks. --Van helsing 12:37, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

After one month, still no response from the Andalusia editors, so I inserted the link myself, hoping they will keep it awhile to see how it works. Scribbleman (talk) 09:30, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

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March 2008 - Deleted many .com advertisement from commercial websites, including some not even related to Andalucia like yourmarbella.com. Enough, guys! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.127.14.10 (talk) 21:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)