User talk:Ancient Land of Bosoni/Archive 2

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[edit] WWII

First of all, let's keep the personal attacks to a minimum, please. Also, the many different peoples that are included in the former USSR are almost universally Slavic, which IS an ethnic type. Perhaps you should do some more research before making any more broad assertions. Parsecboy 20:37, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you should read the first line in Slavic peoples. Also, I'm sure many more Chinese were butchered by the Japanese during the war. The "alleged killings"? Are you serious? Parsecboy 14:03, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I have reverted your recent addition to World War Two. This is a general article providing a broad overview of the conflict. Specific details of specific atrocities or the effects of the war on specific ethnic groups are probably better addressed in more focussed articles. You've added this content and had it removed three or four times now. I respectfully suggest that, if you really want it in the article, you first discuss it on the talk page before adding it again. - Eron Talk 14:51, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure how you came to "nazi killing of slavs in china", but the Nazis did murder millions of Slavs in the USSR, and Japan (part of the Axis powers) killed millions of Chinese. Parsecboy 15:24, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Hey

Thanx fromt that comment on my profile yep i would love for our land to unite but the west is not allowing it i guess they have a problem with a greater Albania or maby becuase we are magjority muslim or what ever but they specificaly said Kosovo is not to be united with any other country especialy ALBANIA. Gon4z

[edit] Personal attacks

Bosoni, you probably will not assume my good faith, but I have to warn you that edit summaries like this are unacceptable. I try to stay aside of ethnic feuds, but you're trying to turn it into a battleground. I don't want to template you or report to WP:AN/I, as you're long enough here.

Regarding your POV-pushing in World War II article, may I humbly suggest starting a Foča massacre 1942 article? There are plenty of sources (and it's even acknowledged in Serbian ones) [1][2]. Duja► 12:09, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid you don't get me. I don't have any particular opinion about the content dispute you have with the anon; I was referring to the edit summary:
Revert vandalistic, fascistic, nationalistic, radicalistic, amateuristic edits.
WP:CIVIL is relevant for both talk pages and edit summaries. I don't think that calling another editor a "fascist" is appropriate under any circumstances. As far as I can tell, his removal of your text was justified as being a content fork from War in Bosnia and Herzegovina; I didn't even check if it's true. As for the article itself, I gave up closely watching it and similar crap.
As for my IP, I'm 99.9999% of the time logged in when editing; it's this static one; only a few of those edits are mine, mostly when I had connection problems; others are from other University users. Duja► 13:46, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

OK. I tried to find some middle ground in Bosnian language as well. Duja► 14:21, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I've been an admin since October 2006 or so. I succeeded at the first attempt, so you possibly have mistaken me for someone else (Pax/HRE?). Generally, I prefer to try settling matters by talking, and I'm especially reluctant to use the buttons against fellow Ex-Yu editors (except when they cross every line), partly because of perceived conflict of interest of mine. When I spotted your edit that triggered this exchange, I also mistook you for another editor; while I don't necessarily agree with your POVs, your good faith and capability for compromise are far above that. Regards, Duja► 14:31, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi from me, the anonymous

Good evening. I am the anonymous user who has been having a mini edit war with you the past few days (my IP is dynamic, so it changes each day). I see there are now some compromised versions of the text on those articles, and I am happy to accept them. P.S, sorry about the personal attacks in my edit summaries. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.186.184.160 (talk) 07:04, 7 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Hi Bosoni

Hi brother. Things have stabilized with Srebrenica Massacre article. Let's hope they stay that way. I am proud of you for your valuable contribution to wikipedia. Thank you. Bosniak 22:12, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sarajevo Civil war

Hi Adrien. Thanks man, I saw that you try really hard on many articles to prevent serbs' and croats' nationalism and vandalism. You are much longer here than me and I am not very familiar with policy on english wikipedia (by the way, I am administrator on bosnian), so I am asking you to look Sarajevo Civil War and nominate it for deletion (of course if you agree with me). Best regards jarane :) --Kahriman 13:41, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Vidi ovo [3] --Kahriman 20:46, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ustašoidi u akciji

Želim te upozoriti, da korisnik Ivan Kricancic, pogledaj njegovu korisničku stranicu u svom suludom fanatizmu ide od slike do slike koja si tiče Bosne i predlaže je za brisanje. Često to radi nepotpisan: 58.165.115.192. Znam da je sa šupcima teško, ali degen je bolestan i pobrisao nam je na taj način sve skoro sve slike npr. u članku o genocidu u srebrenici, a sada stavlja šablone na slike koje si ti postavio, Markale. Emir Arven 08:00, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A Retortion and Admonition of a Wholly Impertinent Comment

Alas, 'fellow editor', your rather impertinent and outwardly sardonic comment has seemingly failed to amuse me. I shall confess; the 'Sarajevo Civil War' was, indeed, a considerably inaccurate article, though, nonetheless, was my premiere article and is, therefore, relatively excusable insomuch as it was contrived solely as an autodidactic tutorial. I had no intention of offending any Balkans during the procreation of such an article and, as I shall earnestly confess, the content of the article had merely been gleaned from several online sources entitled, 'The Sarajevo Civil War'. In conclusion, I must request you confer your eloquent witticisms and stark indignation upon other individuals. -- Nalco 02:56, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Hi Friend

There is an arbitration for Osli73 case (he was disrupting Srebrenica Genocide article). I think you should vote "oppose" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Osli73 Thank you. Bosniak 02:36, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Thanks

Np. Could you cite the source in the article so that further confusion is evaded (if it is you who placed that info in the first place)? Thanks. --PaxEquilibrium 20:13, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Zelim te napomenuti samo da je Ivan Kricancic anonimni korisnik pod adresom 124.x.x.x koji mijenja clanke Bosnjaci i Sedma brigada, jer je to vec radio ranije, ali je dosao u sukob sa zakonom pa se sada ne potpisuje.

[edit] Marija Serifovic

Except her father's surname is not Šerifovic. :))))) --PaxEquilibrium 22:58, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I think she took her mother's last name (with '-ic' ending), rather than her father's non-Slavic-sounding Turkish surname (naturalized)... as frequent happens.

As for her grandfather, I've no idea if he was Bosniak. :) --PaxEquilibrium 23:04, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Well she said that she's Serb with origins from Turkey. Isn't that what's worth for enough? She was attacked by some Serbian nationalists and then she said that "if origins of all of us Serbs are inspected, we would see that absolutely no one is 'ethnically pure' and that these people are forgotten in nationalist disillusions that plague this world". --PaxEquilibrium 23:19, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Ashamed? Why? --PaxEquilibrium 23:25, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
How is she bosniak?? there is no mention anywhere that she is bosniak? She has turkish blood on her fathers side and serbian and roma blood on her mothers sidePaulcicero 23:37, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Her father wasnt born in turkey [1]

Lol man, a tiny little trickle of patriotism can't hurt. ;0) Don't you love Bosnia? --PaxEquilibrium 23:42, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
http://ww1.rts.co.yu/euro/jedna_vest.asp?IDNews=575 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paulcicero (talk • contribs) 23:45, 12 May 2007 (UTC).
So we shall judge peoples ethnicites only by their surnames? Paulcicero 23:48, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Well that sign has come to represent the country of Serbia today. ;) Three-finger salute (Serbian). I know see why do you see it as offensive, but - did Marija think anything bad by it? In the end, the point was that she wasn't acting anythin' like you said... --PaxEquilibrium 23:54, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
During the campaign for the Serbian referendum, one the List for Sanjak's meeting in Novi Pazar the crowd with SDA, Lillian, Moslem and Serbian flags had that "three-finger" greeting, when President of SDA said that the Bosniacs have saved Serbia's destiny and are the key factor in the Serbian state's bringing to Europe. --PaxEquilibrium 23:56, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

What an traitor to Bosniaks, eh? </sarcasm>--Hadžija 02:19, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

It means that it's offensive just to 90% of Kosovo's population and no one else in Serbia. ;0) --PaxEquilibrium 09:24, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that this is that problem. Though many of those come from jealousy, I think that most actually misunderstood the act (especially if she herself is of that origin), to claim that she deliberately planned on insulting Bosnia.

Also, I watched an interview of her father, Rajko (it's his name after all).

If you have some source that her father is a descendant of a Bosniak emigrant from Turkey, that's fine - just put it and cite it. So far I've seen that her father is of somewhat-distant Roma origins (from Turkey, yeah), but as per Unreliable sources, I'm not gonna put it. --PaxEquilibrium 21:50, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Brother!

Hi Adrian,

how are you doing man? I haven't talked to you in a long time. I am glad you are still active with Wikipedia. Bosniak 05:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marija Serifovic

Lol, I don't *want* her. :) And no, I do not see how she being Serb could be of any relevance to this article. ;0)

BTW her mother is Roma, and her father has 3rd (or 4th) generation Turkish origin. --PaxEquilibrium 14:39, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I dislike her because she said that she is proud to be Serb, etc, she was evoking nationalistic sentiment and rhetoric instead of celebrating purely cultural/entertainment based contest. I don't think she has gipsy genes, as gipsy women are very beautiful, and she is obviously not what would average joe consider "hot" or even "warm". Bosniak 02:40, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Let me quote your user page: This user is a proud Bosniak Should now you be disliked? Are you evoking nationalistic sentiment and rhetoric?
Lol, her mother is Roma (Verica Šerifović) believe you me. ;) Genes have nothing to do with that, go to Eugenics if you're interested in that. ;X --PaxEquilibrium 17:09, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Brother Adrien

I posted response to your comment here. Cheers! Bosniak 02:38, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Adrien

Hi, I added 1 more userbox to your profile, are you okay with it?

This user condemns and opposes Srebrenica Genocide denial.

[edit] Hey

No, I'm not "Ivan K". I live in the United States. I do like your user page, however. I need to design myself one, so I hope you don't mind if I borrow some templates. --Ivan Ilir 01:09, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: HRE

Lol, I pointed that out numerous times.

Does that change anything? ;) --PaxEquilibrium 12:38, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comment

Hey Adrian, how are you doing bro? Can you do me a favor? I would like you to post your opinion in "Comments" section of my blog @ U.N. & Dutch Cowards on Trial. (you don't have to register, just sign your name). Bosniak 01:40, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kosovo

Looks like only two of us support the independance of Kossovo :)))Taprobanus 22:44, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I have been around over a year but thanks for the welcome Taprobanus 12:26, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Very Good Question - here is an answer (sort of)

Hi Adrian, you asked me about Anti-Bosniak Sentiment article and had you not pointed to the non-existence of this article, I would probably have never noticed its deletion. In the past, Bosniaks were prevented from having Bosniakophobia article within Wikipedia; now they are prevented from having Anti-Bosniak sentiment article. This is absolutely not fair. User Duja even called our article "crap" when deleting it, he clearly acted without good faith. Serbs and Croats are allowed to have their articles on the topic, and we are not. This is nothing more but a censorship. Read my comment to Duja and my thoughts on this here and also here. Other admins could help us restore the article(s) and stop this popularity voting contest from censoring documenting relevant articles in this open encyclopedia. Bosniak 22:23, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Pozdrav prijatelju

Ma suocen sam i ja sa nacionalistickim prljavim idejama i verzijama historije, no trudim se... Nisam vise mogao gledati da je tu npr. bila slika Alije Izetbegovina, a nema ni Katarine ni Tvrtka... Hvala na lijepim zeljama, sretno i tebi!!! Veliki pozdrav!

Deland

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