Talk:Ancestor veneration

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This is wrong! It's not based on cultures such as Chinese, because every culture or ethnicity has people with a different religion and "Ancestor worship" is originally from the Animism religion. It's also in Buddhism nowadays and Vietnamese people are also Buddhist, but that's actually just honoring ancestors and not worshipping. My point is "Ancestory worship" does not pertain to the Chinese culture because there are Chinese out there who are Christian and do not pray to their ancestors or anything of the sort. Who wrote this article?! Sebeex3 20:56, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

There's a lot more that could be said here: its prominence in East Asia, possible links to Confucianism and the importance of honoring one's elders; other religious influences and other forms;ways that it is actually practiced. Wesley 15:27 19 May 2003 (UTC)

What's up with the zhongwen, guys? This is not a chinese phenomenon, or a chinese article. Perhaps they could be included later on, but not in the intro. I'm putting a systematic bias template on this. --Taejo 09:36, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Have edited the article to a more generic understanding of ancestor worship and removed the "limited geographic scope" tag. Knowledge for All 16:03, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 WOW 2 Honoring the ancestors 3 Moved from Talk talk:Ancestor worship 4 Unnecessary detail 5 Africa 6 See Also 7 All Saints day (1 Nov.) or All Soul's Day (2 Nov.) or both?

[edit] WOW

Really, thank you for your input. I am a sixth grader and I was looking for information on ANCESTOR WORSHIP in China. --24.24.207.65 (talk) 21:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)Chelsey

[edit] Honoring the ancestors

I'm not an expert -- it seems that the practice of 'Honoring the ancestors' is a more accurate description than Worship. Is this a true statement? If so, the page could be moved to the better name. I am under the impression that even Christians of Chinese heritage 'Honor their ancestors' (After all it is one of the Ten Commandments of the Judeo-Christian tradition -- Honor thy Father and Mother) --Ancheta Wis 02:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moved from Talk talk:Ancestor worship

Im doing a project on this, and I was wondering if anyone who has any knowledge on this toppic could help me. I who, or what came abotu founder ancestor worship. I have an idea its just beliefs about worshiping your friends and family after they die... but did one person start it?? I can get the basic information off the page for the report, but I also need to know if there are any written doctrines about this. Another thing that confuses me is, is there a certain time or place they do this, or is it just when they die, they lay offerings and things like that. If there is a place they honor this (like a church) I need to know if there are any places like this in Michigan.

Thank you much.. Don —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Donuphaus (talk • contribs).

Egyptian culture did the same thing, such as opening sarcophogi on a particular day to pay a families respect and so forth. So starting it is a no-no, formalising it is most likely a middle eastern thing

[edit] Unnecessary detail

The paragraph: "It is in that sense that the translation "ancestor veneration" may convey a more accurate sense of what practitioners, such as the Chinese and other Confucian-influenced societies, see themselves as doing. For example, as "worship" in a Christian context is reserved for the Trinity, a Christian who is unfamiliar with the actual practices and beliefs involved in ancestor-directed rites may mistakenly assume that those who practice "ancestor worship" attribute to the ancestors everything that a Christian attributes to the Trinity: creation of the world, omnipotence, a different class of being, etc." seems rather unnecessarily detailed in unrelated matters, it goes beyond simply clarifying the difference

• Hi, I just came across these article while researching. For those who are commited to this subject: I agree "ancestor veneration" is a much better expression for what is going on in all tribal ethnic groups (on all continents, not only concerning the Americas). It is not only veneration or honoring the ancestors, it is interaction with them. A complete different thing than what happens in the major world religions. And it cannot be merged with "anything with the dead", because tribes do not have death in our sense, it is a passage, but different from the Christian ect. understanding of "going from one world to another". Also you should adress reincarnation in this context somehow. Sorry, I cannot help more, I am busy with articles in German language. --sybilla 17:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I just went home to Los Angeles for Chinese New Year, and humored my immigrant grandmother, as I have since childhood, by co-worshipping her parents-in-law (my grandfather's parents). As far as I can tell, she actually asks them for discrete real-world benefits, though mostly in the form of behaviors/accomplishments/rewards (to loosely translate a once-common prayer of hers, "Please help Namangwari get all As") ~06:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Africa

Many traditional African belief systems revolve around ancestor worship instead of animism. Someone might want to include this. I would, but i'm busy with about 30 other articles. Y'all have nice page here. keep up the good work Scott Free 18:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] See Also

What does Buddhism have to do with ancestor veneration? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jesucristo301 (talk • contribs) 22:25, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] All Saints day (1 Nov.) or All Soul's Day (2 Nov.) or both?

Does ancestor veneration in Poland and the rest of Europe take place on All Saints day (1 Nov.) or All Soul's Day (2 Nov.) or both? Andries (talk) 12:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)