Talk:Amy Dumas/Archive 1

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Contents 1 RUMOURS 2 Move to Amy Dumas 3 Bebo's and MySpaces 4 Trivia section 5 Current relationship with Hardy/Adam 5.1 Pregnant? 6 Fansites 7 Moonsault's Name? = LitaSault 8 Finishing Move 9 Requested move 9.1 Survey 9.2 Discussion 9.3 Result 10 Do Edge and Lita still go out in real life? 11 Lita to TNA? 12 Editing Page 13 Becoming a problem 14 Move 15 UNDENIABLE PROOF!!! 16 Lita's Finishers 17 Picture 18 Punk Band 19 Lita Trivia 20 Lita in the Main Event: 21 Lita didn't sleep with Edge? 22 Retirement date 23 Lita's Weight 24 Real life vs. storylines 25 "She will not be joining TNA, contrary to some illiterate people who use the website." 26 Entrance Music 27 Lita's not retired 28 Fan Moves 29 Good Pic?

RUMOURS

Please note as this is urgent to the page:

I've removed comments relating to her current relationship status as it is unknown if she is with Adam Copeland and it will remain so until one of them (not Matt Hardy, not a wrestling "news" site, not a random "source" but Adam or Amy) states conclusively the status of their relationship and a link is provided to back this up. Unless this is so, any comments on the situation should be REMOVED! I hope I have your agreement in this.

Move to Amy Dumas

It seems much better to keep the real name as the head of the article rather than keeping it in brackets. CMC 03:17, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)

Bebo's and MySpaces

To anyone in any doubt, Amy does not currently have a Bebo or MySpace. When she does, it will be announced via ADORE or via the Luchagors MySpace where Amy definitely posts messages. This is a band MySpace so therefore more reliable than Adam's gimmicky MySpace which is unlikely to be controlled by him.

Therefore, anything said on "Amy" bebos or MySpaces shouldn't go on her page. Unless its confirmed by her, her personal info needs to stay as it is. No exceptions.

Amy does have an official myspace now. Look on luchagors top for it!

Links to social networking sites, (i.e. MySpace) are not allowed in Wikipedia. See Wikipedia's External Link Policy for more information. Also, please remember to sign your comments. Thanks. Bmg916 ^{Speak to Me} 00:01, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Trivia section

I've moved all the notable and/or salient points of the "Trivia" section to fit in the article. The trivia section was becoming just a long list of random tidbits and not really an "article" like every other bio article on the Wiki. Dismas 06:22, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

The grammar on this page is horrendous, absolutely needs to be cleaned up!!

Current relationship with Hardy/Adam

I have removed comments related to this. There is no evidence other than Internet heresay as to whether she is dating Adam or still friends with Matt so it is best left blank either way. It could be mentioned that Matt and Amy have had dinner but it should be said that Edge said this on Byte This and he said that the reason was for "closure". Any speculation on the status of Adam and Amy's relationship and Amy and Matt's relationship, is just that, speculation. She may well be with Edge. She may not be friends with Hardy

You don't know.

Can we NOT paste articles from wrestling "news" sites? A wrestling news site should be considered unreliable until proven right as they have been wrong many times before.

Also, nothing relating to Adam and his relationship status (again, according to news sites which are falsely reporting him as still married). This is an Amy page, not Adam's.

User:Nathanemile- Even though this is not Adam's page. I would like to put up the fact that he won the title last week. I think it's important because Lita was a factor in the match.

Just to point out, whether it'll be used on this page or not, it doesn't matter but since it was brought up, Adam has confirmed that he is in fact single and eyewitnesses at one of Lita's concerts with her band have said that it seems Lita's dating one of her bandmates but at this point, that is neither confirmed or denied: —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.121.95.188 (talk)

MySpace status does not count as confirmation - by confirmation, I mean a quote in an interview seeing that MySpace automatically sets the status to single. There is no evidence whatsoever to back up the claim that Lita is dating one of her bandmates so the relationship status should stay as unknown. In fact, I've heard eye witness accounts state the opposite. In fact, if we're going by MySpaces, Lita is not dating anyone from her band. Nothing should go up unless quoted by Amy Dumas or her other half, whoever it is.

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Pregnant?

There's been rumours around saying that Amy is pregnant. Is there any truth to this?--sonicKAI 15:33, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Evidentally, she's not. Last week she wrestled Torrie. So, it doesn't look like it is. By now you probably know this, but I'm just saying this to clear it up.

Fansites

I don't know WHO keeps deleting Unique Beings from the fansites list, but that site happens to belong to a friend of mine, and it definitely qualifies as a fansite for Amy...please stop deleting. It's annoying and rude.

deleted it because it isnt just a lita fansite, it doesnt matter if you find it annoying or not and its not classed as being rude, if you want you sites added put it on WWE Diva as those sites include other divas on the site aswell. (Lil crazy thing 14:41, 29 January 2006 (UTC))

Number one, I don't believe anyone died and made you own the site. Number two, it is STILL a fansite for AMY, not for Lita because Lita doesn't exist. Number three, can you like use punctuation and proper sentence structure? Maybe some proper word choices as well?

External links cited in wrestler articles should pertain mostly to the particular wrestler, and not be a "catch-all" site. It's not "rude" to hold an article up to a standard, or to enforce that standard. - Chadbryant 21:35, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

I know what you mean. People will try to own this site. Legit Lita fansite have been deleted many times. And Lita does exist. It's the charactor Amy plays on Raw. I know what you ment by that, though.-NathanEmile

Wikipedia is not a link farm. Just because a site exists about a subject, doesn't mean it should be listed here. See Wikipedia:External links for more information. --Jtalledo (talk) 03:02, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Moonsault's Name? = LitaSault

If we're going according to the WWE Fantasy thing on WWE.com (see Carlito's Back Cracker, , Paul Burchill's Walk the Plank, etc.) then shouldn't her finisher stay as the Litasault? Methnor 08:00, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

No, as her WWE.com profile identifies the move as the "Moonsault". [1] McPhail 15:34, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Iv'e heard J.R. refer to the move as the Litasualt many times.User:Killswitch Engage

Ross also refers to every second move as a "hellacious slam". Both WWE.com and all the referenced websites used moonsault, not Litasault. Litasault is a name created by the makers of the SmackDown! games, not WWE. McPhail 18:21, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Again, it is/was called the Litasault in WWE Fantasy, and it's not called that in SDvR06 anyway (don't know about the earlier games...). And, like I said, Burchill's move is called Walking The Plank on his article, because that's how it's called on WWE Fantasy (at least, that was the explanation given when I removed it a while back), however his WWE.com profile page [2] calls it a Backflip Uranage Slam. Methnor^{Talk to me!}

This is where you start to puzzle me McPhail, when Styles apparently said that Mickie's finisher is called the 'MickieDT' ONCE! You began advocating it being written all over her page, as if that is the official name of the move. But Lita's moves consistantly for 4 years have been called the Litasault and Litabomb[3], you still refuse to accept it. The level of hypocrisy is sickening. It seems like you and a few others just want to do what you want to do on wikipedia to push your weight around. (Fr3nZi3 23:33, 26 June 2006 (UTC))

When did I advocate that "MickieDT" be "written all over her page"? McPhail 15:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

---It seems like you and a few others just want to do what you want to do on wikipedia to push your weight around. "Fr3nZi3"---I totally agree with you Fr3nZi3

Lita's Moonsault is called Litasault. Everytime I come back to Lita's page and I fix her Finishing Moves McPhail here always goes back and changes it to just moonsault. Any fan of Lita knows the it is called Litasault and that her DDT is also called Lita DDT. On WWE Fantasy it is also called Litasault.

Thank you very much! I have beocme sick and tired of the people here on Wikipedia that are just here to puntificate and boss people around! The move is called the Litasault and the Lita DDT and that how it shall remain as long as I have anything to say about it! --Fr3nZi3 16:33, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

For the record, the term 'Lita DDT' only appeared in the Smackdown! video games. I wonder what makes you think that is the official term?

Fr3nzi3, what are you nagging about? If you're so hung up on getting the official names of Lita's moves, then you have to go by WWE and not by JR. For one, I've have plenty of media on my computer than can prove you wrong that Lita's moonsault is officially regarded as a Litasault. It isn't. It's been documented by the WWE to be the moonsault. Her DDT is regarded as just that, a DDT by the WWE BUT, she uses a variation of the DDT which is a snap/pendulum DDT which JR most recently called an Impaler DDT but otherwise, the WWE and not even JR considers the DDT to have Lita's name associated to it. Her top rope hurricarana is called a Litacarana but that's the only thing that's both officialized by both the WWE and by JR's commentating. Relying solely on what JR commentates isn't reliable seeing as how other commentators don't always use the same terms as JR does when calling a match. I'm not saying the Litasault hasn't been used before, but don't make it seem as though it's been officialized, otherwise, the WWE would be the first to have it listed: —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.121.95.188 (talk)

Finishing Move

Shouldn't the finisher be Leg Swinging DDT instead of Snap DDT? Levodevo 18:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Who sez it is the Lita DDT? You? If so, then stop wasting your time making pointless contributions. Use a credible or official source to back up your claims, like WWE Fantasy or JR's commentary for 'Litasault'.

The WWE site calls it a DDT, so it should be named DDT and in paraenthesis Leg Swing Snap DDT,cause thats the technical name for it. Lita DDT is used in the Smackdwon Vs Raw 2006 game and thats the only time ive heard it been called that

...I never said anything about a Lita DDT...I've heard her DDT called a leg-swinging DDT many times and was justr asking a simple question about whether or not it should be called that. You don't have to be so mean. Levodevo 21:11, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

The proper term for her variation of the DDT is a Snap DDT but recently, I've noticed JR referring to it as the Impaler DDT but I guess Snap DDT would be the most technical term to go by while DDT would be the official name to go by. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.121.95.188 (talk)

Requested move

• Amy Dumas → Lita (wrestler) … Rationale: Better known under this name. Tromboneguy0186 01:50, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Survey

Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~

• Oppose, it would be better if "Lita" had a last name too, too bad the wrestler doesn't. --Vlame 07:30, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Neutral; while Lita is certainly the better known name, she has only used it for six years, and both her book and her animal charity use her real name. In addition, the angle with Edge has increased public awareness of her real name. McPhail 13:22, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose for ease of disambiguation purposes. --Jtalledo (talk) 15:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose; It'd be easier and more effective to simply add a redirect to this page at a disambiguation page for "Lita".--Cheezymadman 03:55, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
• OPPOSE Practically everybody who watches WWE RAW knows her real name. --sonicKAI 14:06, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose, for the reasons I stated here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mike_Plotcheck#Discussion. Tuckdogg 23:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose - Even though WP:NC would lead us to prefer ring names over real names (as a ring name is often better publicized and adheres to kayfabe), recall that Lita had published an autobiography under her real name (Lita - It Just Feels Right). It's a hard call on this one. kelvSYC 05:41, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: I seriously question whether WP:NC really does prefer ring names over real names. I've read the sections dealing with stage names (where BG James is discussed), and that section was not added by the person who created the guideline. In fact, the guideline's creator, when editing the section, actually only added the paragraph at the end warning people not to disambiguate between the politician and the wrestler using "BG" and "B.G." Furthermore, B.G. James isn't even indexed under his character's name, but under his real name. That's hardly a resounding endorsement of ring names over real names. Tuckdogg 15:05, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose; normally I a for wrestler pages to be under their stage name, but she authored a book with her real name. Aceboy 05:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose WWE owns the name Lita, not Amy, plus her real name is well known too, thanks to her book, and Matt Hardy. --Dubhagan 14:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose, per above.--Aldux 22:25, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose, the name Amy Dumas is well known mainly thanks to Matt repeatedly saying her real name on RAW... as has already been said. If her name was jumacia Prancieria or some strange name like that then I could understand using lita as no-one could spell whatever I just sais but I dont think this applys SKRIBUL 20:59, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

Add any additional comments

"Amy Dumas" is better for disambiguation purposes, since there are no other "Amy Dumas" entries on Wikipedia and there are other meanings for Lita. --Jtalledo (talk) 15:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Result

Clear, strong oppose. -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 20:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Do Edge and Lita still go out in real life?

Because I heard that they stopped going out after they were an on-screen couple. Is This True?

This remains currently unknown to the public and therefore (unless you have any hard evidence ie a statement from either Adam or Amy) should be stated as such.

I have also edited the statement that Hardy ended the relationship as it was being reported in early 2005 that Lita ended the relationship. Hardy's story changed on this so I think it should just be left blank.

What do you mean he changed his story? I would like to hear his new story. lol@-w/hardy. Anyways just fyi, rumors suggested they(Amy/Adam) broke up in November, citing the pressure from the fans as the reason. Just a rumor. I was just being open to the possibility.

Oh yeah, that's no problem. I'm not getting at you, just saying that there is no evidence that they aren't together so it shouldn't be put on her profile.

Well, at first Hardy said he told Amy to stop seeing Adam and she refused and walked out on him. Then he changed it to him throwing her out. Very unreliable is Matt HArdy!

Adam has confirmed that he's single and looking on his myspace page so that obviously means that they're not together...if that's information that would still like to be added to the page: —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.121.95.188 (talk)

MySpace is not a proper source so it shouldn't go up. MySpaces are done for a variety of reasons - as gimmick pages, publicity stunts and they automatically set you to single and besides, there's nothing to say that Adam is controlling it. In fact, considering his schedule, he probably isn't.

A proper source would be a quote by either Adam or Amy which can be linked or proven. Otherwise, it shouldn't go up.

In this case Myspace would be an appropriate source considering that Edge runs the site along with a close friend of his who would know the status of his personal life as far as dating goes. No WWE star has a myspace up that is in character or following their own gimmick and if that were the case, then Edge would be cited as being in a relationship with Lita but that isn't the case so his myspace being filtered through his WWE character is false. Therefore, his myspace can be considered an actual personal page that isn't set up with the intent to follow through on his character and therefore him saying that he's single and looking for a woman on his myspace is a credible source. Also, fan sightings of reported that Amy is possibly dating the guy from her band judging by the very intimate interactions seen between the two at their local gigs.

Just to say I read this on litas bebo page

Adam Copeland! I Love This Guy So Much he Means The World 2 Me, Hes My Everything, Hes So Great 2 Me Hes really Sweet and He Knows Just How 2 MAke Me Happy When Im Sad and I Just Wanted 2 Say I Love You So MuCh With all My Heart Babe!

wether this is her I am not sure but i believe it is due to the amount of profile veiws, friends, and comments-

Bebo's and MySpaces should not be used as evidence. Lita does not yet have a personal MySpace or Bebo. A MySpace entitled "The Rated R Superstar" is not a definitive source on the actual real life of Adam Copeland as the Rated R Superstar is a gimmick.

There are more fan reports stating that Amy is not dating a member of her band then there are otherwise. There is absolutely zero evidence.

[edit] Finishing and signature moves

Basically, unless she personally says it, don't put it. Simple as that. Ends all arguments pretty nicely.

Amy and Edge are not dating, in fact Adam Copeland (Edge) has reunited with his wife.

She didn't want the breakup of her and Matt to be public, huh? Blame Vince, he wanted to make it into a storyline, and in some cases her for hurting Matt, and Edge for screwing his boy like that. Some will say there is two sides too every story, and I'd love to know why Amy cheated on Matt, but the fact remains that amy did Matt wrong and to cheat with a married man that was his best friend, that was low.76.197.249.52 17:58, 23 February 2007 (UTC)BigBoi29

Lita to TNA?

Lita's WWE contract expires soon (in 1-2 months) and Lita has shown interest signing with TNA. This is because she wants to wrestle but the WWE writers have nothing for her besides being Edge's valet. TNA has wanted for a while to grow it's women's divison with good wrestlers and signing Lita would be something that would help make it grow. Should this be added to the article?

Yeah I remember reading something like that but I forgot the source

She is leaving to pursue acting not wrestling Crazy4metallica

she not leaving to pursue a acting Trish is Lita is with WWE until 2007 User:Supermike

^ Not really Lita's contract ends in a few months

yeah i just saw that sorry

Since they are nothing but rumors right now, no it should not be added. And sign you comments people. TJ Spyke 06:26, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Apparently she has told fans that she is taking a little bit of time off but will be back sooner rather than later. The "acting" thing is untrue, she has previously stated that acting is not for her.

It shouldn't go up unless WWE or Amy herself publicly announce it.

Lita isn't going to TNA. She'll just end up groping men twice her age like poor Gail Kim and Jackie Gayda.

Hi yes I actually read this on litas official bebo

My WWE contract is scheduled to expire on December 1st. As of a week ago, the feeling was that I would actually finish things up at Cyber Sunday or the night after on RAW, but I'll be staying at least a little while longer because I am added to the U.K. tour that starts on Wednesday. Maria and Candice Michelle were pulled from the tour in favor of Myself vs. Mickie James title matches. Once my contract expires, I plans on concentrating on my punk rock band and doing some indy film work. The general feeling within WWE, which is pretty accurate since I am sick and tired of them, is that I will eventually sign with TNA due to the easier schedule.

So guys, in not too far future.. You can all say,

• Mimicks Christopher*

TNA is Lita!

Lita doesn't have an official bebo, this person is pulling your leg. They just took the exact news reported on a wrestling newsite and replaced the name 'Lita' with pronouns such as 'I' to make it seem like it's really her. It's not. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.121.95.188 (talk)

Lita does have a bebo as far as I know so I would believe it! I remember seeing it 2

Editing Page

This page should be reopened for editing, it has not be "vandalised", but added to. It dose not mention any thing about Lita's actions on RAW, which as of recent have been major (Edge winning his second WWE Championship, SNME). Second, the images that were posted were improvments. The image at the top of the 2005/2006 shows Lita much better (Her mouth is not open, her head is not tilted up, her eyes are fully open). Third, the championship images are important to the article, any time an image is available it should be added to illustrat the subject. Fourth, her move set. the " Spinning Out Powerbomb Into A Kneeling Pin" is not valid. She has done a spin out powerbomb once, to Jazz and even so it should be under "Litabomb" (Powerbomb or Spin Out Powerbomb). Pluse the Suicde Dive which she has used many times through out the 2004 period is not up there. Then the "Standing Hurricarana" directs straight to the tope of the Professional Wrestling Aerial Techniques page. It should be under Frankensteiner since a Frankensteiner is the proper name of a hurricarana ( a hurricarana ends in a rana pin). Last the Twist Of Fate is no longer her finisher it should not be in bold. It is now soley by Matt Hardy and Lita has not used it since late 2003. Information in an article should only be deleted if it is off topic, a rumor or and opinion. It should only be put in proper format not deleted. And when ever possible, a good image should be used to show the topic. Were or not it's "utterly pointless." Please reopen this page for editing. Thank You.

While I agree with everything else you just said, there are two problems. You didn't sign your name or IP, and she did use the Twist of Fate one time during the Edge-Matt feud, although more or less as a mockery of Matt Hardy. 152.163.100.74 07:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Edge winning the WWE Championship has nothing to do with Lita. Flooding the page with images contravenes the Wikipedia:Fair use policy. The images are only "available" because they have been stolen from WWE.com. Moves are bolded if they were used as a finisher at any time, not just at present. The spinning out powerbomb has been used on several occasions but was never identified as the "Litabomb". McPhail 14:32, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Last I recall, hasn't there been pure evidence posted in this very talk page that the Litasault/Litabomb names have been recognized names for the moves? Go find it and you'll find that it was deleted by the user. Which means, it was there. And you really can't say Edge winning the WWE Championship has nothing to do with Lita, when she was his valet and she helped him get the job done. That's kind of like saying that King Booker winning the World Heavyweight Championship has nothing to do with Chavo Guerrero, and last I recall, Chavo screwed Mysterio. Lita helped Edge. It's that simple. 64.12.116.74 19:38, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Lita is a huge asset to the accomplishments of Edge. Even though Lita only used the spinning out powerbomb a couple of times it has been called Litabomb by Jerry Lawler. Go to this video and you will hear Jerry clearly calling it Litabomb. http://youtube.com/watch?v=VdAw25yxZDo

I agree, the spinning out powerbomb she's used has always been regarded as a Litabomb. She doesn't do it hardly enough for me to personally consider it a signature move but considering that they've personalized the name of the move for when she uses it, I guess it would count. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.121.95.188 (talk)

Becoming a problem

McPhail your constant vandalizing of Lita's page is becoming a major problem. We have discussed previously on the talk page and came to a conclusion that the moves are called The Litasault, the Litabomb, and the Lita DDT. You leave it for a while, then go back and delete it. It seems that you sre trying to be difficult and use your power as an experienced wikipedia editor to intimidate people with your clearly wrong point of view. Considering I and others have tried so hard' in trying to resolve this matter in a civil fashion, including showing you an abundance of proof--you still persist on being a nuisance. I have reverted it back to what it is supposed to be, and if I ever see it changed I promise I will do everything and anything possible to ensure that you are blocked for vandalism. But I doubt we will have to get to that point. Thanks for your cooperation. --Fr3nZi3 16:21, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Where is your proof that the moves are called the Lita DDT and Litasault? WWE.com clearly identifies her signature moves as the "DDT" and "Moonsault". McPhail 16:30, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Probably he never read the main page as it stated "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that ANYONE can edit." Block as many editors as you want, you think you can stop them all?

I find it funny how Fr3nZi3 acts like they hate when people on wiki just boss people around when that is all that she does LITA DOES NOT DO THE LEG FEED EVERY MATCH AND THAT IS A FACT second this is an information site with no place for bias which you clearly show it is not the Litasault it is a moonsault stop showing bias just because you are a Lita fan.User:Razorface

Move

Can we move this page to her ring name "Lita"? --Mikedk9109 22:42, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

This was proposed before and I think the consensus was to keep it where it is. For one thing, she might not own the rights to use the name outside WWE. Also, the book she authored uses his real name. Lastly, Lita is a disambiguation page. --Jtalledo (talk) 01:25, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

UNDENIABLE PROOF!!!

[4] Here is the link. Watch the ending of the match, and see where Jim Ross clearly calls the moves the Litasault and the Lita bomb! Do not delete it again! Thanks!! --Fr3nZi3 01:09, 12 October 2006 (UTC) Thats one match! You are the same one who thought Trish should have the sharpshooter as a finisher one time does not count! and further more JR does that alot of the time someone does a powerbomb that still does not make it a finisher

Stop talking out of your ass!!! They have consistently called the move the Litasault and Lita shown like five more examples where they have called it these moves, but someone still has Bomb for years now, even on Smackdown when she waas wrestling Stacy Keibler, they called the move the LitaBomb and Litasault! Don't be a jackoff, and stop just deleting things for the sake of an argument! I don't know if I can be bothered to find any more proof because there are some very obstinate and obnoxious people on here who are just around to be an annoyance, plus I have something to say to dispute it!! As for Trish, I believe any move that is used to win a championship, automatically becomes a finisher whether or not it is done once or a million times!--Fr3nZi3 16:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC) Thats stupid logic for a finisher plus thats only what you yourself believe if John Cena uses a small package to win a belt is that his move?NO and as for disputing it look at the OFFICAL WEBSITE FOR WWE IT CLEARY SAYS MOONSAULT AND DDT NOT LITA DDT AND LITASAULT

I am not about to go and start arguing with a clear mark who does not know the rudiments of professional wrestling, all I am going to do is enforce that the Lita DDT and Litasault remain--simple as that!--Fr3nZi3 15:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Excuse me?You obviously don't stand anything about prowrestling if you think a move used one time is a finisher so all I'm going to do is make sure this page stays TRUE to the facts and not what one person thinks.Sorry kid but face it you are wrong its a moonsault and a DDT read the website I think the WWE knows more about its own talent than you.

A proof that the move is called the Litabomb--look at 7:40 of the video [5]

ONE match does not make it a move and AGAIN THE WWE'S OWN WEBSITE LISTS HER MOVES AS A DDT NOT A LITA DDT

^^You blockhead! I am sorry I had to call you that because I have been battle with your dumb ass for months now! I dont give two hoots what the WWE has on their website (which still states Torrie Wilson's finsiher as a springboard elbow!) Which is very wrong!! Go by what the announcer calls the move, and they have consistantly called the move the Litasault, and Litabomb for years. Plus another shitstain has gone and deleted the Litabomb entirely! WTF! I am going to change it back for the last time. And I see it removed again I promise I will stay on this site all day and all night doing everything within my power to get the person blocked permanently for repeated vandalism! Thats not a threat--it's a damn promise!! --Fr3nZi3 16:17, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Excuse me but I do not like the insults and no it has not been called the lita bomb for years because she hasnt done it for years and once again the WWE says it is a DDT not a Lita DDT

Why the hell am I arguing with a mark who knows nothing?!?! Change it and I will change it back, and we can have one big editing battle because I know I am right! --Fr3nZi3 01:17, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Again no sorry I'm not a mark and again yes you are wrong

This is almost the excact same situation as the Backcracker argumet on Carlito's page. The WWE does not always care to go by what anouncers call moves. As far as I know, on most wrestling profiles we go by what an announcer has called the move. KE

That is stupid! On Torrie Wilson's WWE Page it lists her finisher as a springboard elbow! Everyone knows her finisher is the Nosejob, so then we should delete the Nosejob from her wikipedia page then! Similarly, if you hear JR calls the move Lita's DDT or he calls it an Impaler DDT! We shall leave the Lita DDT up there! Remove it, I will add it again, until someone puts a stop to this madness! --Fr3nZi3 17:09, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Lita's powerbomb is called a LitaBomb. But as for her moonsault, here's a list of just a few of the matches where she's performed the move and it has been called a moonsault and NOT a Litasault:

-Trish vs Lita : Unforgiven 2006 -Lita vs Ivory : 9/11 match -Lita vs Ivory : Survivor Series 2000 -Team Extreme vs TnA : SD (Trish's first match in the WWE) -Team Extreme vs Tna : Heat (don't know the exact date) -Lita vs Stephanie McMahon : (Lita's first title win) -Lita vs Trish (Lita's second title win)

Yes, JR has called the moonsault a Litasault before, he did so when she use to mimmick Essa Rios, but most of the time, he calls it a moonsault. The last time JR called the moonsault a Litasault is at Unforgiven 2003 when Lita made her in ring return from her neck injury. The fact that moonsault is used more than Litasault should be enough indication that the moonsault s her finisher is the most applicable term for her move: —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.121.95.188 (talk)

Now to that fat idiot Fr3nZi3 I WILL TYPE IN CAPS SO YOU UNDERSTAND A FINISHER IS A MOVE THAT ISN'T USED ONCE OR TWICE HENCE WHY THE LITA BOMB IS NOT WORTH NOTING OK DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ANYONE IN THE WWWE CAN DO A POWER BOMB AND THEY WOULD CALL IT A EDGE BOMB OR A ORTON BOMB OR A KING BOMB DEPENDING ON THE WRESTLER THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT A MOVE WORTH LISTING SHE HASNT USED THE MOVE VERY MUCH SO SORRY AGAIN YOU ARE WRONG SAME GOES FOR THE ENZUGIRI A MOVE USED A FEW TIMES IS NOT WORTH BEING NOTED sorry MARK and as for why I am insulting you well you did it to me many times first so how does it feel to know other say you are wrong because guess what YOU ARE WRONG as for Torrie Wilson she does not wrestle enough to have a known finisher and as for Carlito's Back Cracker ..well that move is known as a Lung Blower and Matt Striker used it on Heat before him. So feel free to edit as you want and I will do the same but do not insult me because you dont even know what a mark is if you do insult me I will insult you back.

Probably they weren't watching WWE at all... All they do here is ban. Those who have power abuse that power, but like I said, they can't stop them all... The truth shall set you free. Lita DDT, Lita Bomb, and Litasault are correct terms for her moves.

The truth sorry but last night on RAW Lita said MOONSAULT AND LITACANRANA.

Yep. Lita said Moonsault and Litacanrana which should prove the fact that her moonsault is called just that while her hurricanrana is called a Litacanrana. 83.233.58.44 22:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Ladies, Gents, why don't we just make a note that the name of the moves are disputed. Often annoucers will give a move a name to add an impact for the move as a finisher or signature move.Sephiroth storm 05:58, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Well i agree, such as when Carlito used to have the "Back Cracker" and when he turned hell they called it the 'Back Stabber", but i will admit, just because someone uses a move to finish a match once or twice dosnt make it a finisher! When someones wins via DQ do they call there finisher a DQ, ofcourse not, and when they use a chair or table does that make the wepon a finisher, in some cases its 1 finisher while they still have another eg;Balls Mahoney, iv seen Triple H use a sledge hammer to finish a match, its a signature wepon but they dont class it as a finisher. And thats the bottom line! --Deathtopplintheir40s 11:52, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Lita's Finishers

Someone screwed up Lita's Finishing moves and added in a bunch of useless taunts, so I took the liberty of restoring her finishers and removing the taunts as they didn't belong in that section. JamX3K

Restore what you want, it'll just revert back... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mines45 (talk • contribs).

If you revert an edit in an article more than 3 times, you'll be in violation of WP:3RR. --I c e d K o l a ^{(Contributions)} 03:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Picture

Can someone get a newer, updated picture? Angli Cado Primoris

Punk Band

I have a website where people can watch Amy's band perform. It's

http://www.pwpix.net/superstars/l/lita/gallery/screencaps/7/

--Fluffy Kitten 22:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Lita Trivia

I deleted the bit about Lita being the first woman to attempt a top rope moonsault. That is FACTUALLY incorrect. I know for a fact that Bull Nakano has used the top rope moonsault in the WWE and I don't need to convince people of who came first. I believe there are other women who have done the move before Lita but all you need is one name to disprove that trivia post and therefore it should not be there.

Also, what's the point of saying that Lita along with Ivory, Moolah and Trish have had the title more than any other WWE diva? That's irrelevant and it seems like you're trying to magnify the amount of title wins by saying that she's among the divas who've held the title many times but the fact remains that she hasn't held it the most and unless that's the case, it's not relevant and is ridiculous to add on the page.

Also, Lita and Victoria's cage match wasn't the first diva cage match in history of wrestling. It was the first divas cage match in RAW history...at least, that is how the WWE cites it and therefore, the article should do the same to avoid it possibly being incorrect. Here's the wwe.com exert:

RAW - Lita vs. Victoria, Steel Cage MatchNovember 24, 2003 | Approx. run time: 6 mins.It was the second edition of RAW Roulette live from Salt Lake City, UT. The matches throughout the night were determined by a spin of the wheel and it was determined that Lita would face Victoria in the not-so-friendly confines of a steel cage. It was the first women's Steel Cage Match in RAW history and it looked like Lita had things well in hand. Matt Hardy made a surprise appearance, but how would he factor into the outcome? Subscribers$1.49

And here's the link (it's the tenth video on the page). http://www.wwe.com/subscriptions/247online/divas/

She also isnt the first woman to doo a moonsault

She's not the first to do a moonsault, but she is the first to do a tope rope moonsault.Angli Cado Primoris 20:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Tomoko Watanabe did a moonsault at Survivor Series 95 if I'm not mistaken and yes it was from the top rope and if it wasnt her like stated above Bull Nakano did one so Lita is not the first.

The Steel Cage match between Lita and Victoria was not only the first ever women's Steel Cage match in RAW history, but also in WWE history as well. I edited in references to the other trivia that were needing them as well. Thanks! 58.165.68.237 22:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

It says that Lita is the only woman to by physically involved in a TLC match in WWE history, but at ECW One night stand (the second one '06 i think it was) wasn't their a TLC match that involved Edge, Foley, Lita against Funk, Dreamer and Bulah Migillcutty (sorry I don't know how to spell her name) but she was also physically involved, considering that she was the one who got pinned, she is a woman and it was a WWE pay per view. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.141.108 (talk) 10:07, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Lita in the Main Event:

I know it's listed that Lita has been in 7 main events, however, that is only when regarding her matches. She was only promoted in the main event when she married Kane so that means that she's been a part of 7 main event matches but all together, she's been a part of 8 main event segments and I think that should be corrected to specify both her specific main event matches and also to include the Kane/Lita wedding since the wedding was promoted as being the main event of the night.

Lita didn't sleep with Edge?

Someone typed in this article that Amy Dumas and Adam Copeland never slept with each other. That goes against every wrestling website that I've read, as well as what Matt Hardy and Edge's (ex??) wife have said. In fact, Hardy was fired for mentioning the affair on his website. If it were just a work, why was he fired? Is there a source for this just being a work?Politician818 01:08, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

This isn't true and should be removed from the article. It has never been said to be a work and Lita, Matt, Adam and Lisa (Adam's ex-wife) have all confirmed and spoke about the affair in some manner or another. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.121.95.188 (talk • contribs)

Retirement date

She retires at survivor series which is this sunday, I added that and somebody or something removed it. The date was indeed correct so why was it removed?

Your edit was reverted (by me) because in an attempt to clean up Wikipedia, we try to keep rumors, speculation, and play-by-play/future events out of the WWE articles. The reason the retirement text is in the article because it's just merely stating what WWE said, but lets not change the retirement date until it happens. ;). Have a nice day. // I c e d K o l a ^(Contribs) 02:46, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I guess I can respect that. :) I can wait.

Is Lita really going out with Edge? There have been rumor that it is all just a hoax to boost Edge's Ratings as The Rated 'R' Superstar!! Plus there is a rumour that Lita is thinking about getting back together with Matt Hardy!!

Lita's Weight

Lita's weight on the Smackdown vs. Raw 2007 website is 125. Should it be changed? User:Angli Cado Primoris

Real life vs. storylines

This article may confuse some people who don't watch wrestling, as it blurs Amy Dumas' real life with her Lita character. For instance, it says that Lita revealed that she was pregnant. However, Amy Dumas wasn't really pregnant. People who don't watch wrestling may think that Amy Dumas was pregnant. This article should make a clear distinction between what is real and what is kayfabe.Politician818 01:15, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

"She will not be joining TNA, contrary to some illiterate people who use the website."

I removed this. --74.114.105.193 02:08, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Entrance Music

Her theme from her neck injury return onwards has been "Lovepassionfuryenergy" by Boy Hits Car from WWF Forceable Entry. Before that she used a song released on CD by WWE under the title "It Just Feels Right" (Anthology, Disc 2) but it has been used many places before. We might want to make a note of this on the page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.49.234.28 (talk • contribs) 15:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC).

Lita's not retired

I found this on gerweck.net

Hey wrestling promoters, wanna book Amy "Lita" Dumas for an appearance at your next wrestling show? She is seeking $3,000 for the date plus transportation.

Since she is taking bookings, I think it's safe to say she's not retired, so should we take off her retirement date on her profile box? Gamehead 02:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC)gamehead

Where is this listed on the site..I cannot find it? Also in terms of an "appearance" - is this in a wrestling capacity or as a guest star? --Mikecraig 02:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

The title is WWE Tidbits and I think a guest apperence Gamehead 22:53, 8 December 2006 (UTC)gamehead

Sweet, Im gonna book her I got 5,000 bucks, plus a ring and cameras! Cool! How can I? Im serious. Ive got this other chick who is our best. Amy can win and stuff and take the Ladies Title belt and smash Jesse with it and, well shes my girlfriend, so I will come out but then Zack will spinebuster me that will build our Ladder Match. DXRulz

Fan Moves

Should this section (fan moves) be put back into the page? LitaDDT is from the game, thats widespread acknowledged by fans, and Litasault is used very often. JR isn't the only one hyper over the word, most fan posters in the stadiums and commentators sitting there use 'litasault' whenever shes does the moonsault.

As for litabomb, well thats a JR creation, any opinions on whether it should be there?

xCentaur |  talk  21:14, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

No editor replied. And the nutcase who kept reverting edits seems to have gone too. As per the comments in the source-file and from whatever I have managed to understand from this talk-page, I put the fan moves section back. For the love of God, whichever new editor has an issue with that, please discuss it on the talk page first!

xCentaur |  talk  21:44, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

No I dont think there is any need for it, as those are just fan names and are not offical in anyway it was just put there to make some Lita fanboys happy who can't accept that those are not the move names. There is zero reason for it to be on the page.

I hope I'm not the 'nutcase' that you're referring to. I will admit, I've reverted back quite a few times and apparently a lot of people don't agree with me, so allow me to explain. A couple of weeks ago, someone came up with the idea of creating the 'Fan Names' section, because the 'fanboys' kept coming in and changing the main finishers to the incorrect terms such as 'Lita DDT'. The Fan Names section will probably prevent this from happening as much, and it doesn't contradict the names of her finishing moves, because it's off by itself. Do you see what I'm saying? Levodevo 05:48, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I removed it a while back because the fan name section is not an encyclopediac section; it's just fannism. Having a list of what fans have also called her moves is not something to be mentioned in an encyclopediac entry. BTW, I added the edit war over names to the list of pointless edit wars. Anakinjmt 03:15, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

What do you want, a medal? SteveLamacq43 15:53, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

That made no sense. He mentioned people keep taking it out, and I was saying I was one of them, and I gave my reasons why. Jeesh, calm down. Anakinjmt 15:13, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

No problem,Levo. It was an IP, btw, and the editor was very hostile. You seem more sensible than that bugger ;) As for the fan moves section, at the time I figured it was a better way to keep vandalism out. Now I believe the article looks fine. Perhaps we could have the names the fans have given to it in brackets next to the official names, but other than that, I think the moves section is alright as it is. xCentaur | ☎ 06:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC) :: Lol, "pointless edit wars"? Theres a page like that, Anakin? Send me a link when you're free, this I gotta see. Happy editing!
xCentaur | ☎ 06:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

WP:LAME. Interesting reads, there. xC | ☎ 18:40, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Good Pic?

Iv been watching WWE for a very very long time and today was the 1st day iv ever been on Lita's wikipedia page and when i did i got 1 hell of a shock! Can I ask why there isnt a hot pic of her as her main pic? I mean she looks good and all but she only looks really good when shes ready to wrestle (or im sure when shes out off screen) but you get what i mean, i mean did some fiminist complain about how people exploit women (aka:look better then them lol) because i wouldnt mind seeing a hot pic of Lita on wikipedia, and i mean, im sure Lita would perfer a pic of herself on wikipedia that looks hot instead of that whole suprise photo look. --Deathtopplintheir40s 12:00, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

The photo being used is free. - Deep Shadow 12:37, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh fair enough, but i mean come on! shes hot, well when shes ready to wrestle shes hot. --Deathtopplintheir40s 01:54, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you could find a free picture in which she looks hot? (Ref link above) Makes both parties happy, as well as all the fans... :P xC | ☎ 22:41, 24 October 2007 (UTC)