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MAD may be growing faster than AMS and may even surpass Frankfurt, it is very important though to note that almost 100% of AMS's traffic is international and 35% intercontinental, and FRA has the highest number of international destinations, quite unlike MAD, the Madrid-Barcelona line only, occupies 5 million passengers annually, and a huge percentage are just national flights. Madrid may have an increased number of passengers, it still has a very long way to go to reach an international position like such long established airports. The fact that this year it was the poorest functioning airport of Europe (even behind Lisbon and Athens).... says enough, and Madrid can't absolutely be taken serious yet as a competitor on this level. In terms of business travellers Amsterdam has won the prize as best international airport in the world for more than 20 years, and in the eighties and nineties won the prize as best airport in the world (in general) eight times. In the USA and in the UK it is widely known as Europe's best airport. I cannot judge about Copenhagen, although I suppose it is highly efficient, I really don't think it operates on the same level either as this airport (or CDG, LHR, FRA for that matter).—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.77.143.2 (talk • contribs) October 31, 2006.

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-Considered to be Europe's finest airport

- I thought that was Copenhagen? Also, are those railway route tables really necessary?

We can also split off the railway info to a separate article.--Patrick 02:24, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Done.--Patrick 12:30, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Madrid Barajas Airport Surpass Amsterdam Schiphol Airport as 4rd busiest airport in Europe

Madrid Barajas Airport MAD become 4rd busiest airport in Europe surpassing Schiphol Amsterdam airport , even before new T4 opened.


January 2006


MAD Barajas 3, 124,219 +8.5 %


AMS Schiphol 3, 031,700 +2.3%


MAD figures : http://www.aena.es/csee/ccurl/Estadis%20enero%2006.pdf AMS figures : http://www.schipholgroup.com/ Press Release of 13-02

In around 3 years it's expected MAD will surpass FRA frankfurt airport as 3rd busiest , once the new capacity suplyed by MAD T4 enters into full use.

in the 2005 ICOA numbers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_busiest_airports_by_passenger_traffic#2005_final_statistics Schiphol is still leading Barajas. The story mentions 2004 as year of comparison explicitly. (It would be good to mention Barajas as one of Schiphol main competitors.)

213.84.14.16 16:02, 24 August 2006 (UTC) MathFox

I don't think they're real competitors as they're not anywhere near each other. BabyNuke 18:13, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Pronunciation

How is it pronounced? Grouse 07:20, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[sxɪphɔl] I think I got all the right symbols here. The i should be as in "Chicken". Lokimaros 14:18, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About the name "Schiphol"

The airport is located in the NE corner of the former Haarlemmermeer (a lake), and so with SW storms, a frequent occurence in the Netherlands, ships in trouble would be blown to the NE corner, to encounter further trouble by the shore. Hence "Ship(s) hell". Lokimaros 15:26, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Do you have a source? If so, I'd say: add the information to the article. Marcvangend 22:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)


According to the (Dutch) FAQ on the official Schiphol site, there are more theories about the name. The most popular is the one described above, although "hol" is not hell, but an old Dutch word for grave. There are also historical more likely explanations: "hol" means "haal" a old way to transport ships. And that "hol" is hollow because it is low, like in Holland. [1]

[edit] Lowest airport in the world

As an American, who is not very familiar with Holland's system of dykes, I am quite curious about the sustainability of an airport that is below sea-level in an era of global warming. It also surprises me that there is a train station underneath.

What is the cost of making sure that this major multimodal transport hub is not flooded?

Sam 13:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)Sam

It is no problem, because most of the West of the Netherlands is protected by natural high dunes which are more than 20 meters above sea level. There are no dykes either because it is not necessary. The weak spots are Zeeland (South-West), the top of North Holland (smaller dunes), the northern provinces (however that's a shallow sea), and the major rivers (Rotterdam).
The Holland (West) side can easily be sustained even if the sea level raises by 20 meters and only requires some vegetation to prevent the dunes from eroding awayy. In case of Schiphol, the only problem is that it is a former lake, so the ground water needs to be pumped away, but the chance of even the train tunnel - which is about 10 meters below the sea level - drowning is close to zero. The same applies to Amsterdam which never experienced a flood despite being below sea level and will probably never experience it either. KittenKlub 10:01, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] bmibaby - costs

The page mentions a couple of low-cost airlines saying "bmibaby (with costs steadily rising with this company)". What is the relevance of this addition to bmibaby? Is someone angry because he feels he paid to much when flying with this airline? Or should this remark suggest that bmibaby might be moving to another part of the airport soon? Marcvangend 21:56, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] waysigning by Mijksenaar

I think one of the reasons why Schiphol Airport has won so many awards, is the excellent waysigning system designed by the 'wayfinding expert' Paul Mijksenaar. After designing the signs for Schiphol, he got to do the signs for New York (La Guardia, JFK and Newark), Washington (Dulles), Abu Dhabi, Athens and the San Francisco subway. Mijksenaars own website can be found at www.mijksenaar.com. I think this info could be added to the article. Marcvangend 22:11, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mainport

It is stated that Schiphol is one of Europe's mainports. However, as far as I know, the word 'Mainport' is Dutchlish, not English. In my opinion, it should be rephrased.

[edit] ship hole or ship hell?

The article on Haarlemmermeer translates Schiphol as 'ship hole', whilst this article translates it as 'ship hell'. Perhaps someone fluent in Old Dutch might care to clarify? Kaini 12:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

LOL! Well it's such a mess nowadays with so many flights and so little ground services it might as well be ship-hell... Butt... in old dutch the "hol" in "Holland" refers to the hollow or low land nature. Considering that Schiphol is in fact located in a depression, well below sea level, this is probably the origin of the name.

Noserider 13:10, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

"Hol" in Holland meaning hollow is a misconception. It stands for holt: wood. The dutch page of schiphol has three possible answers for the origins of the name, but none of them referring to wood (which is also much older than Schiphol).Joost 99 (talk) 10:59, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Schiphol catches priest with cocaine

Not article-worthy, but it's sufficiently funny that I thought I'd share: Schiphol betrapt priester met coke

For the first time at Schiphol, a priest has been caught smuggling cocaine. Under his soutane, the cleric from Bolivia had taped three kilo cocaine to his legs. The priest claimed the bags contained holy sand.

Shinobu (talk) 20:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)