Talk:Amputee fetishism

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Contents 1 Asymmetrical amputation 2 Appropriateness of example? 3 Talk content merged from Acrotomophilia: 4 Acrotomophilia 5 Removed from article 6 Cite sources 7 To be deleted or seriously truncated? 8 Paraphilias, not fetishes

[edit] Asymmetrical amputation

"Identical amputations on both sides of the body are prefaced by a "D": DAK would describe a double above-knee amputee. These are also known as "bilateral" amputations, so BAK would be equally valid."

What if there are amputations on both sides, but they are not identical? For example, Tammy Duckworth, a helicopter pilot in Iraq, lost both of her legs when the aircraft was shot down, but she lost much more of one leg than the other (one AK, the other either BK or KD). Is there a term to describe that situation? 4.243.149.188 22:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

There is no single term. Which leg is AK? Assuming her right leg is AK, she would be RAK/LBK or RAK/LKD. --BlueNight 00:05, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Appropriateness of example?

Is it really appropriate to use Heather Mills McCartney as an example? It seems in poor taste to use her as an example subject of fetishist terminology, just because she's lost a (partial) limb. The terminology explanation seems perfectly clear without resorting to an example anyway. 202.45.99.190 12:37, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I had typed a long, involved answer talking about Miz Mills-McCartney's anti-landmine activism making her an ideal celebrity example, then giving the alternate example of Porn actress Long Jean Silver, whose claim to fame is an incomplete amputation of one leg resulting in what appears to be a peg leg shaped like a phallus. Then I realized only one answer is necessary: we're talking here about amputee fetishism. Any discussion of taste is moot from the beginning. --BlueNight 07:31, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

However, if there's an example you think would be in better taste, such as Aimee Mullins, by all means, edit the article to reflect that. I chose The former Mrs. McCartney because she is in the public mind as an amputee, not because of a tabloid interest. --BlueNight 00:05, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk content merged from Acrotomophilia:

"Previously rare, acrotomophilia was first recognised in clinics as commonplace in the western world in the early 1990s."

Wrong. Firstly, acromotophilia is still rare. The number of scientific articles ever published on the phenomenon probably doesn't exceed a dozen. If you claim it is commonplace you must provide evidence . Secondly, a. was first recognised as early as the 1890s !

"It is thought that this was caused by the proliferation of the Internet, which allowed already predisposed individuals to gain access to video footage and still media of amputees in situations conducive to arousal"

Highly Questionable. Most acromotophiles say their attraction is deeply rooted, and that it has its origins in childhood. The internet merely enabled many to overcome their inhibition to talk about it to others.

"As these individuals learned what could be found sexually stimulating and which forms of physical deformities would sate their desires, they would then seek amputee-partners or situations where amputees could be observed during a sexual act."

Sounds like a myth to me. Acromotophiles seeked amputee partners long before the advent of the internet. Even today most don't "learn" their paraphilia from looking at photos and video. The paraphilia normally sets in at puberty.

I'm afraid i'll have to delete the lot.

How apt that this page is a stub. BlueNight 01:41, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Acrotomophilia

Link to article with information about acrotomophilia: http://www.depression-guide.com/acrotomophilia.htm

I don't know if anyone can use this short article as a reference to support statements made on the page, but perhaps it's a start. 4.243.149.188 22:51, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed from article

I've removed the following:

Acrotomophilia has seen a significant rise in the United Kingdom, and is again considered to be due to high-bandwidth internet being available to a high proportion of the population since 2000. Mental health clinics in the Tilehurst and Caversham districts of this country have reported record levels of a newly termed order: Rhinoacrotomophilia. This particular paraphilia takes its form as the attraction to general nasal aberrations and patients who have undergone complete nose amputations.

Also remarkable is the increase in amputee patients developing various forms of paraphilia. It is thought that the mental damage caused by losing part of their body causes patients to change their sexual practices in abusive ways. It is feared by several notable psychotherapists in the Tilehurst district of the United Kingdom that if left unchecked, this trend could lead to a positive-feedback relationship being formed between masochistic people and acrotomophiliacs. This would inevitably lead to an endemic situation.

I find this hard to believe. Can you give verifiable cites for these assertions, please? -- The Anome 00:14, Nov 9, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Cite sources

Perhaps we can cite sources, perhaps this is not a notable phenomenon. Lets leave it at this: The next time someone edits this article without adding sources, I will nominate it for deletion. Good deal? I think it's good enough. Lotusduck 01:39, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

End merged content.

Do a google search for "devotee" in combination with "amputee" and you will find at least ten pages of relevant material. Since the Internet has enabled acromotophiles and apotemnophiles to find each other, the Internet itself is the major reference, in the same way that the Internet is the major reference for all things furry.

Within that first ten pages of search results are links to dozens of magazine articles and mentions on television of the phenomenon. Because of the number of lives it touches, this phenomenon is at least as notable as many webcomics articles, yet for lack of advocates, it struggles to survive.

However, I do agree that citing sources is a Good Thing. --BlueNight 09:25, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] To be deleted or seriously truncated?

I added a link and then read the article. Oh, dear! It tells us very little, is muddled, and is full of arcane inside-speak of interest to about eight people per million, at a guess. No attributions are made, and few are indeed possible. I submit that it is a waste of bandwidth. Livedvalid 22:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

If you severely truncate the article, leaving only a shapely stub, you would make a lot of people very happy. (snicker) --BlueNight 07:34, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Paraphilias, not fetishes

This article is about the paraphilias "Acrotomophilia" and "Apotemnophilia" as stated in the article. It is a folly to describe them as fetishes. 194.112.32.101 13:39, 11 November 2007 (UTC)