Talk:Amphibious aircraft

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Keep the merge up. Mrld 02:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Proposed merge

A nonsense! Many seaplanes are not amphibious. It's like saying the articles dog and mammal should be merged because all dogs are mammals. Paul Beardsell 21:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Look. It's so silly I am removing the proposal. Paul Beardsell 21:40, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I added the merger sign. I think it has some merit. Some sepalnes and flying boats can take off on land and water. It has plenty of merit. A seplane just doesn't have to take off on water. The same with flying boats. Not all can take oof on both but a lot can. It would be a whole lot better to have one big article on the topic than three smaller articles. I say the merge should take place. Mrld 22:40, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

The more articles the better. Seaplanes land on water, Land planes land on land. Some seaplanes can land on land. They are amphibious aircraft. Some land planes can land on water. They are amphibious aircraft. Not all seaplanes can land on land. Not all landplanes can land on water. All amphibious aircraft can land on both land and water. I know I have not taught anybody anything except, I hope, this: If there is an argument for merging seaplanes with amphibious aircraft then there are other arguments to be entertained. In particular, the merging of the aircraft article with the amphibious aircraft article. For exactly the same reasons. Bad reasons. Paul Beardsell 13:58, 4 September 2006 (UTC)


You're right. It doesn't do us any good to sit here and bash one another. Mrld 19:06, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Range Question

Isn't range a function of aerodynamic efficiency, cruise speed, engine fuel consumption, and fuel storage size? I read the point that some amphibious planes almost have the same range as land based aircraft. It seems a bit haughty and not based in fact, since the seawind will go 930nm on a single tank, while a piper cherokee 180 (land based only) can only go 550nm on a single tank. consider revising?

Yes, you're right: Take two versions of the same aircraft: one amphibious and the other either a seaplane or a landplane: The amphibious one will be heavier, have less payload for fuel and will thus go less far. Fix the article: Edit boldly! Paul Beardsell 18:22, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Definition by landing surface

I am a bit unhappy about the definition of amphibious airplanes as that they can land on "runways, grass or water". Some runways are grass, some grass definitely cannot be landed on. Many amphibious aircraft can land on unprepared surfaces, but if a plane can land on water or an prepared surface like a concrete runway, it would still be amphibious. A better definition would be that they can land on "land or water". I'll take the liberty of changing it. DerGolgo 18:33, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Delete citation request (float planes are slower and heavier than landplanes)

The previous version questioned the statement that a converted landplane will be heavier and slower than its landplane version. This statement is so obvious to anyone connected with aviation that I have deleted it. Does anybody object? Raymondwinn 12:12, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Hughes H-4 Hercules

The largest amphibian ever built was the Hughes H-4 Hercules, nicknamed the "Spruce Goose".??? No, I don't think this!--Threecharlie (talk) 18:00, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Then what do you think? You haven't said why it's wrong, or what the correct answer should be. - BillCJ (talk) 18:24, 16 January 2008 (UTC)