User talk:Amoffit

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[edit] The Archives

Archived talk page at /archive

[edit] The assault on the List of sexual slang

Two users in particular The Literate Engineer & Voice of All(MTG) have apparently made it their duty to get rid of the list and they have been using underhanded tactics in an attempt to do so in any way they can.

But word is getting out, and supporters of the list are starting to rally against them and protect the list (via rerverting vandalism, countering their tactics, etc.).

[edit] The results of the 18 October AfD:

  • Keep & clean = 3
  • Keep, no clean = 11
  • Delete = 2

[edit] The anonymous clean-up notice

The following anonymous clean-up notice was posted to the list on November 1st:

23:44, 1 November 2005 68.17.227.41

The notice was placed without group consensus, and there was no edit comment. Pretty sneaky.

This was the user's only edit. Nothing before or after. A sock-puppet.

[edit] The results of the 10 November Afd

  • Keep & clean up =3 votes
  • Keep, with no mention of clean up =7 votes
  • Delete = 4 votes (including the nomination)

That's 10 votes to keep, out of which 3 voted to clean up. Seven out of ten clearly voiced their desire to retain the list without deleting its entries.

[edit] Dishonest report of Afd results

Voice of All(MTG) reported the results as " ", and he and The Literate Engineer used that as the basis to erase the content of the list, which they did in successive edits.

[edit] Non-consensual list move

During the 10 November AfD discussion, Voice of All(MTG) moved the list to the new article name sexual slang, citing the introduction at the top of the list as the basis for the move ("it is more than a list"). Several users then used the article title as an argument against including any list entries.

When an article is moved, the change history is moved with it, and a redirect is placed under the original article's title. If the redirect is edited, then the article cannot be moved back. That is exactly what has happened to the list. See Wikipedia:Merging and moving pages for more information.

[edit] The current situation

The change history of the list is currently stranded as the change history of Sexual slang.

The content of the list itself has been restored to List of sexual slang, where it was originally. This preserves the spirit of the results of the two AfD discussions mentioned above.

[edit] To summarize:

  1. On Oct 18 the list was nominated for AfD (article for deletion), but this attempt to delete failed, and the vote was overwhelmingly to Keep.
  2. An anonymous sock-puppet placed a clean-up notice on the list. It has been used as a justification to delete entries.
  3. On Nov 10, The Literate Engineer made an AfD attempt against the list and it failed too.
  4. Then The Literate Engineer underhandedly moved the list to the non-list name sexual slang, while the AfD was still underway.
  5. Voice of All(MTG)reported false results for the 10 November AfD vote, and he and The Literate Engineer edited out the entire list.
  6. I posted a rebuttal to the above antics on the talk page for sexual slang, and reverted the sexual slang article to the November 15 version in the article's change history (the complete list). My username ("Bend over") was banned as inappropriate or offensive.
  7. Some editors stated that an article is not the place for a list, and used that as a justification to keep list entries.
  8. So I replaced the redirect at List of sexual slang with the actual content of the entire list. Unfortunately, the change history for the list is still part of the change history for the article sexual slang.
  9. An attempt is being made to protect the list against vandalism at its original location: List of sexual slang.

Remember, the three reversion limit does not apply when reverting vandalism. Only if enough concerned users participate will this be successful.

Thank you for taking the time to read this letter. Red Rover 22:15, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimedia Canada

Hi there! I'd like to invite you to explore Wikimedia Canada, and create a list of people interested in forming a local chapter for our nation. A local chapter will help promote and improve the organization, within our great nation. We'd also like to encourage everyone to suggest projects for our national chapter to participate in. Hope to see you there!--DarkEvil 17:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mailinator cleanup - why?

Hi, you added a cleanup tag to mailinator here: [1], but didn't explain your reasons in the history or talk page. Why do you think the article should be cleaned up? Thanks and Cheers! :-) Peter S. 00:14, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I've added your reason to the talk page. Cheers, Peter S. 11:06, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] London

HI, I am in London as well and operate a resource center for writers at 757 Dundas near the western fair. Just greetings for now WayneRay 22:48, 14 June 2007 (UTC)WayneRay

[edit] AfD nomination of Norrath

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