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Contents 1 Peeping Tom 2 Photo 3 YouTube links 4 Reads like a review

[edit] Peeping Tom

i wouldn't list the peeping-tom album as one of amon tobins own, he may have produced one track of it, but that's it. i propose to move it to the "Collaborations" section.

comments and/or objections?

84.75.131.168 00:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll do it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 142.3.14.172 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Photo

Looks like someone overwrote the original Amon Tobin photo for use with another article. I don't know how to access previous versions of a file. Can someone look into this? Ryan 18:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

That's odd, it's not on Commons either, I dont know what happened to it (though if i remember correctly, it was a poorly lit photograph, and should have been replaced anyway). I'm adding a {{Reqphoto}} template here, and removing the incorrect image from article. -Quiddity 19:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I have added a picture which I obtained permission for. -MattWatt 20:45, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] YouTube links

This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed, feel free to ask me on my talk page and I'll review it personally. Thanks. ---J.S (t|c) 04:36, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't see any external links, but the YouTube links to the Foley Room trailers *should* be there. They're official. Trailer #1. Trailer #2. I realize that this is an robocomment, but this is nevertheless the answer. --Adam

[edit] Reads like a review

Look. Amon Tobin is amazing. It's almost as if he's objectively amazing.

But seriously, it's pretty obvious that this is a nonneutral article.

"Each of his albums unchart a new realm..." "Tobin is renowned for..."

I agree with everything in the article. But the word choice makes it a little biased.

Clearly "objectivity" is a strawman standard for a music article. However, the general thrust of your point is correct. There is a broad consensus that Amon is an innovator in his field, and there are articles and reviews to that effect. It's just a matter of finding them and citing them and tailoring the language of the article to fit the critical evaluation. The claim that Amon is renowned for what he does, though, is in fact quite defensible. The problem is that tt's simply not a very well-written article as it stands. --Adam

This guy is a little bit overwrought but would be a good place to start if you want some specific points for citation. --Adam

I fixed up this problem a bit and removed the review tag, but if anyone feels it still reads like a review, put the tag back on. Smilesfozwood 17:02, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

First time seeing this article was today. I had to comment that it's still not neutral or even close. since not of that stuff has references, maybe the section should be removed. Youdontsmellbad 06:16, 22 June 2007 (UTC)