Talk:American Teen
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[edit] Constant Editing
Why do people keep removing the criticism about this film, as a senior during this year, I had saw alot of this going on, they didn't make any effort to hide this, this is just as much of a documentary as Spinal Tap was. EmoHobo 21:24, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Edits from creators of American Teen
Both this talk page in the article page has been vandalized by Nbursting, a username that appears to belong to Nanette Burstein, the film's director. (source). Additionally, an edit that most definitely fails to stay within NPOV has been made by Flashjord, which seems to belong to Jordan Roberts (source), who has previously worked with Nanette. (source)
Please stop vandalizing these pages. Feel free to add facts in an encyclopedic manner, but do not remove those which have been previously gathered, or attempt to silence those who point these things out. Thank you. 67.183.115.223 (talk) 22:34, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'll certainly check out the items you pointed out, but you need to remember that any facts which are challenged or are likely to be challenged require citations per Wikipedia's policies on verifiability and original research. You're making some contentious claims, and they need to be backed up. --jonny-mt 07:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Most of the things I was putting in there weren't added by me, but were things that previously existed that I had just corrected the grammar on, and reverted whenever the page was blanked. As a former student at the school where they filmed, I recall hearing friends of those being followed telling me about many of the events they mentioned, so I figured they were on the whole fairly reliable.
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- I'll see if I can find some citations. I know that I'm not supposed to use my own personal experiences as per No Original Research, but would accounts of other students from the school be acceptable? 67.183.115.223 (talk) 08:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
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- If the accounts are published by a reliable third party, then sure. However, you can't use the students themselves as sources, as there is no way of verifying what was and wasn't said as well as your own neutrality in interviewing them (i.e. a third-party reader has no way of knowing if the students interviewed represent the majority of the school, and there is no accountability should they make up or mix up facts).
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- Now, if the students are interviewed by an independent, reliable magazine or newspaper, the responsibility for neutrality rests with the person interviewing them, who is a professional and thus held to higher standards. In that case, you could use the article resulting from their accounts as a source. --jonny-mt 09:05, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
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