Talk:Altair (spacecraft)

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Contents 1 Requested move 1.1 Survey 1.2 Discussion 2 Requested move 3 Previous spacecraft 4 The LSAM and its roles 5 The LSAM Ascent Engine 6 Usage and Grammar Problem 7 Computer game 8 Altair 8.1 Survey 8.2 Discussion

[edit] Requested move

[edit] Requested move

[edit] Previous spacecraft

Wasn't the Lunar Module the immediate predicessor of this spacecraft? Saying the space shutttle was is like saying the F-18 is the immediate predicessor to the F-22. Technically yes it was, but not in the same role.

[edit] The LSAM and its roles

As the Lunar Surface Access Module (LSAM) is a heir to the legacy of the Apollo Lunar Module, it was designed by NASA with the mind as both a crew transport, and as a cargo transport. The Apollo Applications Program (AAP, which later became Skylab), a program similar to Project Constellation originally saw the use of the Apollo LM as both a lunar base (ascent module, minus engine) and as a transport. To supply the outpost, NASA would launch an Apollo Command/Service Module and a so-called "LM Truck," which would be guided down to the surface by the orbiting astronauts in a manner similar to that of the aerial drones used by the U.S. Air Force in Afghanistan and Iraq. The LSAM, which is, function-wise, a descendent of both the Apollo LM and the AAP LM Truck, would do the same function as that proposed for the AAP-era lunar base, but for the cargo-only mode, the LSAM would not need a crew to haul her out to the Moon — cargo LSAM can fly out and land with controllers in Houston doing the piloting. Also, the LSAM, unlike the Apollo LM, will have the same camping-like comforts that the Apollo astronauts would dream of (toilet, hot food, airlock, etc.). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rwboa22 (talk • contribs) 17:36, 21 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] The LSAM Ascent Engine

The article states that a RL-10 engine will be used on the ascent stage. This is incorrect, a hypergolic engine, similar to the one used on the CEV, is much more likely. References to the ascent stage using cryogenics should be changed.

[edit] Usage and Grammar Problem

Found this sentence in the "Description" area:

"It will also be flown unmanned, similarly to the Apollo Applications Program's LM Truck concept, but without having to fly a manned Orion spacecraft out to the Moon."

I cannot make heads or tails of this sentence. What will be flown unmanned? What is the LM truck concept? Are we sending unmanned Orion spacecraft to the moon? How is an unmanned Orion craft circling the moon part of the Altair manned moon landing project? I am completely lost. I appreciate any effort to make this clear. Kjdamrau (talk) 02:17, 8 May 2008 (UTC)kjdamrau

[edit] Computer game

I came to this page when looking for the page about the Lunar Lander game. "Lunar lander" redirects here, but there's no "'Lunar lander' redirects here, for the game, see Lunar lander (computer game)". I only managed to find the game page using a google search. Surely this would be a useful addition to the page? Haddock420 14:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Altair

LSAM has now been renamed Altair. I am creating a single RM nomination to handle all articles affected. —GW_Simulations_{User Page | Talk} 20:43, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

• Lunar Surface Access Module → Altair (spacecraft)
• LSAM 1 → Altair 1
• LSAM 2 → Altair 2
• LSAM 3 → Altair 3
• LSAM 4 → Altair 4
• LSAM 5 → Altair 5

[edit] Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

[edit] Discussion

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