Talk:Also sprach Zarathustra (Richard Strauss)

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I doubt that Strauss's work is yet in the Public Domain (he only died in 1949); therefore, has the legality of the linked MIDI file been investigated? I would hazard a guess that it would violate copyright law, myself. Just a hunch. <<213.105.224.16 18 August 2005 19:00>>

  • It is an external link, not under Wikipedia control. I suppose it could be argued to be contributory infringement to link to an infringing site, but my (cursory!) reading of the legal literature says it isn't; and I am not a lawyer. --Macrakis 23:18, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
    Wikipedia:External links tells us to not link to things that are clearly copyright violations. I'm removing the link. — Saxifrage ✎ 21:52, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Regarding public domain, IANAL: if Strauss composed the song in the United States at the time, then yes, it would be in the public domain, since it was created before 1923 (1896). However, it is a German work, and Germany's copyright law says straight 70 years after the author's death. So 1949 plus 70 equals 2019, the earliest it can be in PD, subject to any changes in the law. See List of countries#copyright length for info. --Geopgeop (T) 02:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

An anonymous user has added a section called "The Rest Of The Piece". I don't want to revert it as this section could have merit, but it desperately needs to be rewritten. It doesn't sound at all like an encyclopedia! 7Munkys 23:23, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

I cleaned up that section, and attempted to give a little more detail into the piece. --Setrajonas 02:49, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Capital

Shouldn't "Sprach" be capitalized? Tim Long 23:09, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

If it were in English, yes. Other languages like German have different title-capitalisation conventions. — Saxifrage ✎ 08:12, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Ja, das stimmt!

[edit] Introdution

Sorry, I don't have a wikipedia account, but I noticed that the introduction seems to contradict itself. It says the piece was written in 1896, but then it says it is "one of the most recognized pieces of music of the last 50 years". Unless the article was written in 1946, that doesn't make sense. Anyway, I'm not sure that an opinionated description like "most recognized" should be in an encyclopedia article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 153.104.121.18 (talk) 01:25, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

I think it does make sense, since it probably only became widely known over the last 50 years (mainly due to 2001: A Space Odyssey).

Still it needs to be sourced... even though I agree it is very recognizable.--Shadowdrak 08:34, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other wrestlers entrances

1 in a thousand would only mean 6.6 million according to the current U.S. population. They alone would make your estimate seem a fraction of what it should be or would have been had you done more research on the subject.My fiancee abhors professional wrestling and is very well educated, yet she relates that music to Ric Flair. This is partly because a lot of people under 40, unfortunately have not seen 2001. Flair has wrestled in over 30 countries on more than one occasion for most of them. He is almost as old as Margaret Court and he is still working. One can call it a long period of saturation or poisoning but you cannot deny how many people could make that association during that time.

Cheers!


Can someone show what other wrestlers have used this piece besides Ric Flair?

I really don't believe in the "It is widely known for its use" in relation to a pro wrestler. Yes, there have been some notable pro wrestler's, but it is hardly a world-wide phenomenon. Compared to the connection with 2001, I doubt that more than 1 in a 1000 would relate the piece to Ric Flair. As such I will be removing this reference. Martyvis 04:41, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WTH

I could have sworn this was by Nietzsche's friend, Richard Wagner. --Wasted Sapience 23:00, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Well you'd be wrong. This piece is as about as Stauss as you can get. --Alexs letterbox 10:53, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I have a CD with the introduction on it. But it's called thus spoke Zoroaster. Is that a translation?

Yes. Emoll (talk) 20:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Today's Use

Removing this section as Ric Flair has already been mentioned and 'Ric Flair has not been seen in WWE since back in August' is rather unencyclopedic and at any rate belongs in Ric Flair's article. Jimduchek 11:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)