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AnimWIKISTAR-laurier-WT.gifHello, Almost-instinct! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, feel free to ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking Image:Signature icon.png or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. If you acknowledge me welcoming you please tell me on my talk page. Happy editing! Chubbennaitor 11:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
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Hi. Chubbennaitor 11:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] On Being New

Experienced Wikipedians please comment here on anything on my user page. Almost-instinct (talk) 14:05, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

So welcome. That's a nice way to introduce yourself to Wiki. I certainly don't consider myself an experienced editor but, as you'll have seen from my User page (cough), I have been involved in editing for some time and have had experience of what the community has established as the Featured Article criteria - i.e. the very best work we can showcase. It aint always fun and people can get waaaay too serious on here but it's also pretty satisfying adding little bits of your own content and knowledge for posterity. Humour does hide out on here in some places BTW. Granted the signature articles around history, politics and science will be pretty grey and neutral however the much larger (and active) fan-driven pages for popular culture items are much lighter - er, Fighting Talk excepted ;) - such as episode precis for The Simpsons, or character profiles for Family Guy etc. As for learning Wiki etiquette, I think it's pretty much a case of blundering around until someone points you to a policy - it seems there's one for everything on here. My advice would be: don't get defensive if someone tells you you're doing the wrong thing, just go and read the policy they're talking about and, if you don't agree with what it says, discuss changing it at that policy's Talk page. It should be a dynamic project after all, with "rules" established by consensus. You're registered now which is a much better way of making yourself heard. Once again, welcome and happy editing. Cheers Dick G (talk) 23:34, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] No

No, very sorry but this can't be done. It was a 'different account' so it doesn't belong to u. I know it's stupid. Oh, and add a new section == == when editing a user page or hit 'new section'. Chubbennaitor 16:46, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Following on from Chubbennaitor's comment, you can at least see the contributions made under said IP, by going here. WilliamH (talk) 16:54, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Just leave it. Chubbennaitor 09:24, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, HAHA! Any queries just ask me! Chubbennaitor 14:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Go to your preferences and create it in that box; click on Raw Sig and 'Save'. Chubbennaitor 16:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

You can add colors! I forgot to ask if u like things. What things do u like in real-life? Chubbennaitor 16:20, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sig?

Do u want me to create a colourful signature for u? Chubbennaitor 17:03, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Put this in that box where u created your sig before! Almost - instinct. Chubbennaitor 18:20, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry about he bold on the instinct. Chubbennaitor 18:20, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

That might happen. Chubbennaitor 19:23, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Now u can sign my guestbook. Chubbennaitor 19:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] English Art Song

Good, yes, thanks for the input. Those of us who have used the recmusic web site know how valuable it is, but not everyone is that familiar with it. I'll improve the description for it where I have it linked. Mugregg (talk) 18:29, 24 April 2008 (UTC)Mugregg

[edit] WP:Bio

Hi. Am pretty sure it goes against the policies relating to bios of living people. I don't think it's strong enough to be regarded as libelous but it's plainly a dumb edit by a schoolkid. I wouldn't to bother citing policy in the revert as it looks like a one-off. Cheers Dick G (talk) 22:10, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvio

Hey again! You should check out this page Wikipedia:Copyright problems. Think it's best to point you to the policy page so you can have a look round yourself - not least since some of these 'rules' are pretty arbitrary and warrant a bit of individual thought. I tend to be a bit more relaxed about some of the things on here as a lot (er, most) of it is written from a US perspective and hence tends to be a bit paranoid about litigation. Truth is, some of the 'violated' authors of more obscure content are more likely to be grateful for the exposure than get worked up and sue Wiki! Cheers Dick G (talk) 10:46, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image

I have not been through Radford recently when I had my camera with me, but I still plan to get a more pictures of Radford park - there is one on the "Radford, Coventry" page. I did not know about the former residence of PL at that time, but I will look to see if there is a plaque on a house near there. Are you happy about putting in more work to make separate pages on his works? I do not known much about PL at the present time and I can not add much myself. I guess that Red might be able to concentrate on the PL page more, after a FAC (for Featured Article status) that he and others have been working on is over. Snowman (talk) 14:58, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm quite content putting in all the spadework: I'm not involved in any other pages in a serious way. The information is all to hand, so it won't be much trouble. I've created the List of poems by Philip Larkin page. I think I've got the wrong banner up, so feel free to put up something more suitable. Could you please create the table you mention on the Larkin talk page, if that doesn't take long? Tomorrow evening I'll be able to sit down with the books and put in all the info. Almost-instinct 15:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
I have made a framework for the table, which can be further adapted to suite the information. Reference 3 refers to his garden being left to the people of Coventry in his Will, but can you confirm this from another source too. Was his house in Holland Road or Poultney Road? Snowman (talk) 19:56, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
This webpage reports that he lived at 72 Coten End, Warwick, Warwickshire in the 1940s. Can you confirm this? Snowman (talk) 20:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
My memory is that his parents moved to Coton End after he had moved out of Coventry, but I'll get an exact reference to this. I had always got the impression that he had no employment between leaving Oxford University and going to Wellington, but I'll look that up too just to be certain. The material in Ref 3 was totally news to me, so I'll dig up what I can. Could you pls advise what is the correct way of expressing the dates in the table you set up? For as good as all of his poems we have an exact date of completion so I figure its worth giving that. I haven't yet got to grips with the ways of inputting dates on WP. Or can this table only cope with years, not months and days? Almost-instinct 22:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
PS I've found a format that will arrange it correctly when you click on the date button, but is there a way of inputting the info which will then bring up the info as eg "01 May 1955" style- or are we stuck with the rather brutal - if precise - "1955-05-01" style? Almost-instinct 23:01, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
year-month-day will sort correctly when expressed as numbers. But as words the months are not spelled in alphabetical sequence, so they will not sort. Perhaps year-month-day can be at the heading of the column. Will each book need a separate table making the third column unnecessary, and if so, can something else go in the third col? I could probably get the Coton End photo. There is a preserved garden near Radford Common, and so it must be the one he gave to Cov City Council. It has some tall trees and a lawn. I think his house overlooked it, and at the present time I do not know which one it is, and I can only guess. It could be Holland Road or Poultney Road. I think that the garden is mostly alongside Poultney Road (hence ref 3), but the house may be on Holland Road. I think he had a few lines in a poem about this garden. He also wrote about a hospital in Hull, and I do not know much about Hull. Snowman (talk) 23:23, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
The poem The Building from High Windows is about Hull Royal Infirmary, which is about 8 or 9 storeys high and one of the most striking buildings in the Hull skyline. The poem starts "Higher than the handsomest hotel" and is definitely notable in his output, being part of the handful of death-themed long poems he wrote towards the end of his career. A picture would be apt. I'll put an explantion of the date format into the table. I think the choice of columns is right: people will want to be able to locate poems, so a complete alphabetical list with the original source is will be useful, I feel. I'll do what I can to find out about Radford: will report back tomorrow evening Almost-instinct 23:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
The wiki page on "Hull Royal Infirmary" has a photograph, but local knowledge is needed to say if it is the right building or a replacement. It is where he died? I understand that there are two hospitals in Hull. Snowman (talk) 17:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Yes there are two hospitals. He died in the other hospital, the private Nuffield.
  • His home until age 5 was 2 Poultney Road, Radford, a council house.
  • His parents moved from Manor Road to Coten End, Warwick in June 1941, after he had started at university. So he spent the summer vacations at the end of each of his three years of being student there.
  • The job he had in the Fuel Office was just for a month, in the summer vacation of 1942, as a kind of work experience/national service
IMO this short episode isn't really notable, though no doubt the people of Warwick are proud that PL was miserable in their city as well. A photo the public library in Wellington, on the other hand... Almost-instinct 18:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I think that ones first gainful work is significant. I think that it would be useful to mention that with a short section on Coten End, and hopefully a photograph. Snowman (talk) 21:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
PS That picture of the Hull Royal Infirmary is the one that Larkin wrote "The Building" about, all right. He was treated there in 1972. Almost-instinct 18:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Two (not so little) answers

1. Well, there's no harm done if you do raise questions about specific articles on a Project's Talk page, but I think that I'd only do that if I'd previously tried the article's Talk page and not had an answer within a week or so. As you'll perhaps notice, the Project pages are mostly used either for Project matters (tagging articles, Composer/Singer of the month, assessment, format of articles) or to draw attention to articles for one reason or another (proposed deletions, FA pushes, articles required but not present, articles created that might benefit from a second pair of eyes). I can only speak for the Opera Project and WP:YORKS.

As for watchlists, I have no idea what other people do, but I add pages to my watchlist if I have a particular interest in them or if I created them or (more often than not) edited them. So I currently have 1,448 pages on my watchlist and, guess what, one of them is Josephine Barstow whom I've seen lots of times on stage, latterly at Opera North - I added quite a bit to the article if you look at the history, including the link to Scott Smith's site. Some years ago, I supplied Scott with all of her roles that I knew about. He used to live in Newcastle and came down to Leeds to see a dress rehearsal of Cherubini's Médée with me - he was very impressed by Barstow's dramatic qualities (as I've always been), though the voice was in decline then, and started the page on his site. More information than you need to know!

2. Feel free to do whatever you like to the article - a lot of singer articles are much more detailed than this one (see Joyce DiDonato, for instance). As it's on my watchlist, I can see what you're doing. Something more structured sounds like a good idea - I just bolted my bits onto what was already there, but a fresh eye is (almost) always a good thing - WP:BOLD! Do you have a particular interest in Barstow (as well as in the Sage of Hull with his "carefully-nurtured sense of failure")? Best. --GuillaumeTell 10:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

A couple of replies to your reply. I have the Karajan/Barstow Ballo on CD and she's rather disappointing - her rather scrawny sound isn't what I require and her "Consentimi o Signore" in the Ulrica scene is disappointing. Maybe I should seek out the DVD. I entirely agree about the Kostelnicka - she was mesmerising. In those performances, the Grandmother was Pauline Tinsley, who was a mesmerising Kostelnicka herself with WNO when Barstow was the Jenufa. I gather that the other must-see Barstow DVD is a Glyndebourne Macbeth with the late Kostas Paskalis. It's quite old and may even be in B&W, but it always gets good reports. Also the recentish TV film of Gloriana, although, alas, it's not the complete opera.
The Larkin article looks good. I've been a fan since the 60s. A friend lived near him in Pearson Park; when he was introduced to PL in the Hull SCR and revealed this, he was asked "which floor are you on?" My friend: "Ground floor". Larkin: "Mould will grow on your shoes." BTW, the sense of failure quote was from A Alvarez, possibly an intro to a discussion of 60s poets, if you want to use it and can find it. --GuillaumeTell 21:32, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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