User talk:AlisonW/Rail Icons

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For information, there are currently 258 base IDs, each with 30 alternatives (giving 7740 possible images to display - one reason using #ifexists cannot be used!). Some of these would be duplicates but there are also some other sets (green for waterways, for example) which are not currently displayed on this table.
It's even worse than that. A station can either be:
  • major (BHF), minor (HST), or depot (DST)
  • on a vertical line or horizontal line
  • elevated, at ground level, in a tunnel, or on a bridge
  • current or former
  • heavy rail or metro
  • handicapped accessible or non-accessible
  • with or without a cross-platform transfer on either side, above, or below
  • with current or former track connections on either side of it
  • potentially having another line crossing above it, below it, or on a flat crossing; and the crossing line can have any of the foregoing attributes
  • on a single line or parallel line; and if the latter, the parallel line can have any of the foregoing attributes

Once you combine all of the above, I think there would be even more than 7,740 possibilities. Marc Shepherd (talk) 18:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Ahuh, you noticed ;-P I've managed to remove two columns (prefixes) which were duplicated by other prefixes, and I've set to creating some of the missing icons. It is something around 260x32 at the moment iirc, but I'm trying not to actually count! It is the case though that many icons won't exist (tunnels over bridges, disabled access depots or tracks, elevated tunnels, for example) but even then there could be rather a lot. --AlisonW (talk) 19:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi Alison sorry I forgot this is your userpage, hope you don't mind me adding the INTa and INTe rows? --Mfarrow6483 (talk) 19:44, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

np, but it was lucky this time as I was editing a section and thankfully your edit didn't crash it. Responded your talkpage already, btw. The way things are going I usually have an edit 'active' on the page for testing which new icons I've created have fed through properly (and creating them is getting too compulsive!) --AlisonW (talk) 20:02, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

i hope you won't mind, alison, but i am making a slow and steady progress using your new icons to revise & update harry's Spoorstrip ™ program. it's not easy. many of yours i am omitting out of simplicity and i am dropping some of his motorway, footpath & navigation panels. Special:Contributions/dk pintar (talk) 19:01, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem and, dare I say, that is what my collecting them all together in one place has been about. Whilst I have made quite a few pictograms myself (around 160 at my last count) I've found loads and loads of others created by different people which hadn't got consolidated into one location which could be easily referred to. Because some pictograms come from non-rail uses they won't all be required on Spoorstrip anyway ;-P --AlisonW (talk) 21:12, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

the work slowly continues on wiki-to-spoortsrip transfer. it's a bit more than i had thought [!!!] most transfers are based on what i think most people would use and definitely what i want. others can add or subtract as needed. i'll give instructions etc with the program when it is ready. Dkpintar (talk) 09:45, 9 February 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] different fonts for station names

below are the different fronts i have found when confronted with problems indication names for parallel stations and the like. [the line colours were arbitary to help set up the picture] however i need some help to give the actual codes used to achieve them and i am having trouble. can anyone give a suggestion? Thanks Dkpintar (talk) 14:26, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] New icon for your consideration

I created this: to illustrate this: 52°34′03″N 0°14′45″W / 52.56749, -0.24580, the eastern termination of the Nene Valley Railway in the ECML template at Peterborough. It seemed to work better than . As it turned out, the NVL does have a junction with the ECML, and so that is being used in preference for my icon, which is an orphan. You may or may not wish to adopt this icon by listing it. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:16, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Icon not showing up

Hey Alison, I created and uploaded mueABZdg.svg yesterday, and it's not showing up in your table under 3-way branches. I don't know if this has something to do with how I uploaded it, or if it's a problem with your table. Jack1254 (talk) 18:33, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Usually this is a cache issue; because of the way that icons are 'called' from commons to the en:WP page it can take a while before it shows up on this list in place of the CSS-suppressed blank. If commons has it though it will appear here automatically (if eventually!) --AlisonW (talk) 16:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] suggestions

Just a suggestion to add INT legende to the table at the bottom, and also to add a "tv" column :) - oahiyeel talk 14:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

The legend table at the bottom is a direct lift from the manual table version; I think it would be a good idea to amend the manual one first and I'll dupe it over. If the prefix 'tv' has come into frequent use then I can add it; there was an issue over the 'v' parallel lines as they only seemed to be used on German route maps rather than frequently anywhere else (they could easily double the number of icons!) I'll take a closer look over the weekend and work out the best way of adding them without making the table too unweildly. --AlisonW (talk) 16:26, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Are you talking about the one on Wikipedia:Route diagram template/Catalog of pictograms? Someone has already added the INT legende icon awhile ago :)  - oahiyeel talk 07:10, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] uexBUE

I have created a modified version of the uBUE svg file to represent a closed crossing on a closed light-rail, but when I tried to upload this, I was presented with an error message to say the image page is protected, and linked to your comprehensive list of images for route templates. How do I get this image uploaded under the correct name? I have loaded it to uexBUEtemp for the time being. There are a number of other versions of this that I can produce, (closed crossing on an open line, for example) once the permissions issue is resolved.

Many thanks, Lynbarn (talk) 13:00, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Try uploading the images in Wikimedia Commons instead. - oahiyeel talk 15:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I'll also add that my 'consolidation' page links to all codes whether they should or shouldn't exist (why CSS is used to suppress those which don't) so it isn't always meaningful that there is link there. BSicon_uexBUE.svg would be the right filename. --AlisonW (talk) 16:30, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Okay thanks for the explanation - I've loaded the image directly into commons, and will add any new route icons to there. Regards, Lynbarn (talk) 21:38, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I've also added a closed crossing on an open light-rail, the same for a main line, and an open crossing on a closed light-rail line. There is probably not much need for that last one, but it is there for completeness, and I'll do the main line equivalent too, to complete the set! Lynbarn (talk) 22:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ABZvlr

I created this to use on User_talk:Wlindley/Rail/FloridaService, my wrapup of potential Florida services... but am not 100% sure the name is correct... I used "v" for "vier" as there are four directions... advice? Wlindley (talk) 15:47, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Metro Symbol

Hi,

Can you create uKRZt from KRZt?

KRzt
KRZt

I need a heavy rail line crossing over a metro line. The metro is in the tunnel at that point.
Acps110 (talk) 15:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Icon Naming help

I need this icon to draw a map of the Utah FrontRunner system...

Boulder, Colorado
Border

Would that be correct for "operating commuter rail under, future light rail over, and station planned for both" ...? If so, what should it be called? Wlindley (talk) 19:01, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Although there is a station icon of red and blue in a ring to show both, generally most usage seems to be that you only show one. An alternative could be to show two lines vertically with a CPIC connector? --AlisonW (talk) 12:23, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
The station will be an east-west light-rail platform (line to be built) on a bridge above a north-south commuter rail platform (existing in-service line, platform to be built)... so the icon needs to show the lines crossing at this point. The "dot" could be either light-blue or light-red. Please advise and I'll create. Wlindley (talk) 13:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unnavigable waterway icons

I have moved the icons BSIcon_ueSTRlf / rf / lg / rg to Commons, but now cannot mark them as "moved to Commons" on en:Wikipedia because it says they are transcluded by this page. I do not understand how I can now delete them from en:Wikipedia. Bob1960evens (talk) 08:49, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

The way my index page is set up shouldn't preclude anything like that, though that group of icons you list are in very heavy use on rail route diagrams. I'm now checking that they are the same as the Commons versions and deleting the en:WP ones. --AlisonW (talk) 10:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
The process of copying stuff to Commons is nearly impossible because all of the icons report This page is currently protected from editing because it is transcluded in the following page, which is protected with the "cascading" option: User:AlisonW/Rail Icons. Is there any way to stop this? Bob1960evens (talk) 09:13, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Will you please un-protect your page for a bit. We are trying to move all remaining canal icons to Commons, but I cannot even properly move ones that I have created, because they are protected by your page. Bob1960evens (talk) 10:22, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm not seeing that error myself and not sure how we've got into a situation where the commons icons are in widespread use and an en:Wp version exists alongside. Anyway, protection removed temporarily in case it does actually make a difference. --AlisonW (talk) 11:03, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for removing the protection. With the exception of 3 icons, where there were problems, all of the waterways icons that were not on Commons (47 of them) have now been moved to Commons, and marked as "now on commons". It is a bit worrying that protecting your page then prevents any one else from making adjustments to the icons if they are on en:Wikipedia, but hopefully that does not apply if they are on Commons :-). Bob1960evens (talk) 15:43, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
That is what was puzzling me most actually; that there could be icons in use on multiple projects that weren't as such on commons. Anyway, glad to hear the en:WP issue is sorted (and yes, commons activity doesn't affect this page at all and vice-cersa (I'm surprised it affected en:Wp in fact!) --AlisonW (talk) 15:59, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Elevated Depot icon request

This is a great system, I love it, but I found an icon I need for the Las Vegas Monorail, an elevated depot. Could you or someone else create one? Thanks! Admrb♉ltz (t • c • log)

[edit] Two icons needed

Could you help me. I need these icons to correct maps of two lines in The Netherlands and Belgium.

Boulder, Colorado
Border

and

Boulder, Colorado
Border

At the cross-overs were small stations (HST) at both levels. They are now closed. The present icons don't have closed stops. --Bijltjespad (talk) 14:43, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How should (or Should) lines later than the featured company be shown?

The line diagram in "Hull and Barnsley Railway" shows the Spring Bank West chord and the now closed Boothferry Park station which were built when the H&BR was no more. Should they be there? If so, how should they be shown? I presume to ask you as my tortuous search for something like "railway icons" ended up on your pages.--SilasW (talk) 17:43, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Hull and Barnsley Railway --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:58, 27 May 2008 (UTC)