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[edit] Dance in World of Warcraft

Sorry guys, J'en Ai Marre is the inspiration for the female Night Elves' dance. http://www.wowwiki.com/Dancing --Super Bhaal 02:05, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

The citation's at the bottom. It's number eleven, but the part that was supposed to have linked to it doesn't. I'm not touching any of that. If someone more experienced with that kind of thing wants to, they can go right ahead. --Super Bhaal 03:35, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I missed this. My mistake. (On a side note, what is up with this talk page....the formatting is....confusing. I'll provide instructions on your own talk page on how to provide the reference.
Okay, I fixed it. Not sure how reliable the source is, but at this point, I am going to quietly exist this article. TableManners 03:59, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Depends on the contributor. The guy in question only made three edits and they were all to the dance page. I checked the video and WoW Model Viewer and the moves are similar enough, so I guess it's right. --Super Bhaal 05:14, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
It was listed twice, I removed the second occurrence. Anyways, there has been a lot of discussion over this (see archives). While the reference is kept, it is far from being a reliable source (plus the information is unencyclopedically trivial, but thats a different matter altogether). Any source with half an air of official authority should be preferred. --soum talk 08:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Signed. I guess I could ask around at the official forums, but I doubt I'd get a reply that matters. --Super Bhaal 11:35, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Free image of Alizée

Since I last tried getting a free picture of Alizée, non-free images were twice placed and twice removed. Though it's an odd time to do so (with a whole bunch of press pictures coming soon), I'm going to go back on a lead I had, someone who took pictures at a concert. Could I be pointed in the direction of that contract template for people to licence their images freely? Eli espire 23:14, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Example requests for permission. Hope that helps, JACOPLANE • 2007-09-12 23:25

[edit] Image under Mes Courants Électriques sub

The image under this sub is not labelled correctly. The box says the image is from J'ai Pas Vingt Ans, while the image filename is InIAmFedUp, and the image description in the image page says it is from Moi... Lolita. Something needs to be fixed here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.100.160.175 (talk) 23:18, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

The image description page error was a copy paste error. Sorry about that. Its fixed now. As for the image title, it was uploaded on top of an older image (which was from I'm Fed Up). This is a remnant of that. Ignore it. Go by the description in both the article and image pages. --soum talk 05:33, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge content from Talk:Alizée Search

I have created this discussion page, since there has recently been some discussion about the article.

Below you can find my response to the "{{dated prod}}" notice of Schaefer:

I understand that you are concerned whether the Alizée Search article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. You gave the following three reasons in your edit summary:
  • Subject is a non-notable fan website.
The website is a specialized search engine, which is not a typical fan website. The innovation that the website represents is that "it was the first internet search engine to include favicons in its Web search results in 2006". This is an essential part of the article which sets Alizée Search apart from all other internet search engines. Without this fact I would not have started the article in the first place. This information should not be lost.
  • No references in reliable third-party sources.
There are not much reliable third-party sources in other articles about internet search engines, for examples see the List of search engines. This is probably caused by the fact that search engine algorithms are usually corporate property. This is no reason to deleted those other articles either.
  • Not even really a search engine, as you can only "search" for one term.
This would indeed be a good point, if it was not emphasized in the article itself. However, it is clearly mentioned in the text that "it is a specialized search engine based on a focused crawler for only the single keyword "Alizée Jacotey"".
Furthermore, I would like to add that the Alizée Search site is non-commercial and ad-free. I shall continue to contribute to improve the article on the raised issues and encourage others to do so too. Thanks. Ekna 16:08, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

The fact that it is the first search engine to incorporate favicons into its results is not verifiable by the reader. On whose authority are we to take this as true? I don't understand your objection that there can't be third-party sources because "search engine algorithms are usually corporate property". This would do nothing to prevent third-party sources from writing about the search engine. There are lots of articles (books, even) about Google though its search algorithm is corporate property. Also, the fact that other articles for search engines do not meet requirements for notability is no excuse for this one doing the same (see WP:WAX and WP:INN for details). The non-commercial nature of the website is not important. The issue is whether there exist independent, reliable, published sources that have written about Alizée Search that can be used to verify the information in this article. If there are not, the reader has no reason to believe any of its content, because it relies completely on the claims of the website in question. -- Schaefer (talk) 17:06, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge of the Alizee Search article

I do not think a biography is the place to promote others' works, even though the work might be about the subject herself. What information about the biography does the trivia provide? The info, IMO, does not belong here. --soum talk 15:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Psychédélices album art

Has the album art that is being used for Psychédélices been confirmed? Why is it being used here as if it were the confirmed album art? As far as i know, this was released by someone on a fan forum, but nothing has been confirmed. I don't think it belongs on Alizée page as well as Psychédélices page until we know it's the actual album art. Or perhaps one can put "unconfirmed album cover" instead of just declaring it the album cover. (Supermin99 17:46, 21 October 2007 (UTC))

You are right, we should not use it without official confirmation. --soum talk 17:55, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Psychédélices

The section, in its older self was nothing more than a timeline of disconnected info, without any flow or structure. It would have become unmaintainable in the long run. Plus, lot of the info concerned her hiatus which is also encyclopedically irrelevant now that the album has released. For this it was replaced with a different version, which brought it in line with other sections focussing on the album rather than the journey to it. It is better maintainable. If you see there is any problem with this, please feel free to point that out. --soum talk 18:05, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I took the liberty of cleaning it up a bit. Looks good. Lemon-lime (talk) 22:38, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Good work. --soum talk 03:28, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Any sales information? MahangaTalk 03:07, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
See Psychédélices. --soum talk 03:11, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Corrections for Tout Alizée

I've noticed a number of problems regarding Tour Alizée in all of its occurrences. First is that the album's name is "Tout Alizée," not just "Tout." Secondly, the writer made Universal look like a greedy blood-sucking company. While it is, we don't officially say that, so I'm going to take that off. There are other miscellaneous things that I'm going to correct. I just thought I'd let you guys (I guess mainly Soum and Jaco) know that it was me. [a later edit of this comment] I did some research, making sure that the name includes "Alizée." The charts site calls it Tout, the Mixup store calls it Tout Alizée, and Universal Mexico calls it Parler Tout Bas. I'm still going to change it, because (1) there is no clear distinction between artist and title on the cover, and if there was, the order of the words would be switched, (2) charts and other publications will often remove an artist's name from the album name to save space, just as was done with En Concert, and (3) for self-research, as Tout sounds silly and the album's been called Tout Alizée on the forums. Eli espire 21:07, 18 January 2008 (UTC)