Talk:Alice Springs, Northern Territory

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Main goal:

  • Improve this article to B-class status

Smaller tasks:

  • Add more info to Economy and Transport sections (don't forget references)
  • Fix up format of Media section to make it less confusing
  • Update population rank in cities of Australia
  • Any further info or expanded greatly appreciated
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I noticed that the link to <<Hermannsburg>> takes you to the page for Hermannsburg, Germany. (MB)

Fixed - thanks for noticing --AYArktos 3 July 2005 10:01 (UTC)

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[edit] Page name

Isn't the convention for Australian places to have the location at its name unless it needs to be disambiguated? I think this page should be al Alice Springs, not Alice Springs, Northern Territory.--nixie 22:23, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

No, the convention is for automatic disambiguation except for capital cities - see Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(city_names)#Australia. Regards--A Y Arktos 02:52, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

I have added an Australian city infobox for Alice Springs to replace the CIA style map and bring in line with other Australian cities - any info regarding Mayor / Population / area etc would be much appreciated.

I also need to update the location map as the page currently links to the Brisbane map; can someone point me in the direction of the SVG source file for undertaking this task. Cheers! BrisbanePom 13:37, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Good job, I've added some info to the infobox, but it's still missing a few things. I've also made all web references in the article in proper format and put under the references section as well. This article keeps improving really well. Bobo is soft 04:11, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aboriginal cultures

What are the particular Aboriginal cultures and language groups who live in Alice Springs? The article isn't specific about this. I suppose Warlpiri is one. Badagnani 00:24, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Article

In the last few weeks the article has been edited and expanded a lot by NT Tourism, which is good, but now the article needs sorting out and re-editing to get rid of lists, and other things. Also there is a lot of picture's! We need to get rid of some picture's as wikipedia isn't flickr, and too many picture's in an article are not good. ImperialAssassin ~ 20:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Correct; I've trimmed a few, but more could be cut. And too many apostrophes in words are not good, either. - DavidWBrooks 19:41, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Measurements

Personally, I am offended by the exclusion of non-metric measurments to accompany the data and statistics listed only in metric units. I regularly view lambasting of various things "American" (referring to the USA) that contain an America-centric slant with exclusion of non-American viewpoints. What is "good for the goose is good for the gander," right?68.13.191.153 14:18, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Normal Wikipedia style (per WP:UNITS)is to give measurements using both systems. Because metric is used in Australia, a distance in kilometers should be first in this article, but the mileage should follow in parentheses. JamesMLane t c 23:45, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

I love that the first modern republic is the last bastion of imperial measures.Majurawombat (talk) 11:04, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Center vs. Centre?

How do Australians spell this word? We have in History->Early city: "Almost in the exact center of the continent..." but I would think that it would be spelled/spelt "centre". 4.242.147.252 02:46, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Correct, Australians spell it 'centre'. --Zamphuor 04:00, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] American influence

Some time ago I took issue with this section. I continue to take issue. The source for the section http://www.alicesprings.nt.gov.au/about_alice/american.asp substantiates the population claim (2000) but makes no mention of "the American population still celebrating all major festivals, including Halloween, Independence Day and Thanksgiving, a portion of the Australian citizens engage in the festivities from time to time." I believe the inclusion of this information creates a disproportionate impression.

From the ABS population statistics [1] 3.6% of the population were born in the Americas, 6.2% were born in north-west Europe. 18.4% of the population are indigenous, 8.9% of the population speak a language other than English at home (though whether that is an idigenous language or another non-Australian language is not clear).

This section is an example in my view of Tendentious editing - in other words it is not neutral point of view as it gives undue weight to a minority group in the population. That there is also a section on the indigenous population and tourists does not adequately mitigate - I do not believe that American citizens come third in weighting for minorities after that. If they do, there needs to be additional sources to support the weighting in the article, including reasons why the references to Halloween and Thanksgiving should be kept.--Golden Wattle talk 00:07, 22 June 2007 (UTC)