Talk:Alice Auma

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I am assuming that by quoting Holy Spirit Movement material included in the Behrend book, I am not infringing on a copyright. Hopefully, it's akin to akin to quoting a speech by Jefferson that's in a social studies textbook in that the Jefferson speech is public property. I'm new to Wikipedia posting and would appreciate some feedback on this. BanyanTree 04:16, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Images

Does anyone know why the images are not appearing correctly now? They appeared correctly before the last revision, but the last revision did not change anything related to the images. bethenco 11:33, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The images (book cover and map) look fine to me. - BanyanTree 15:41, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Not eschatology

I am changing the category from Christian eschatology to Christian movements. I don't see what this article has to do with the end-times. 208.20.251.27 21:14, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Move?

I believe that this page should be moved to Alice Lakwena. She is better known by that name than Auma. Before clicking on the move tab or starting a formal move request, I want to offer a chance for a little prior discussion, to see how controversial the move would be. --Groggy Dice T | C 02:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I think this is the first talk page I ever edited. Good to be back!
Ah, yes - back on topic. As the editor who started this article, I (unsurprisingly) would contest this, though I do see the logic in it. Alice Auma is more precise. From the context of Acholi traditional belief, Alice Auma was a person who lived from 1956 to 2007, Lakwena is eternal and Alice Lakwena was a phenomenon from 1985 to 1987. In order to speak clearly, like in the Economist obituary, which states "Lakwena also offered, in August 1986, to conduct the war for them. And when the rebel commanders ignored him, he and Alice formed their own army", the definitions need to be quite clear. While the Economist seems to be OK with titling their obituary "Alice Lakwena", subtitled with "Alice Auma Lakwena", and then never using "Alice" and "Lakwena" in combination for the rest of the article, I would rather avoid introducing incorrect terminology and then trying to back out of it. In contrast, the BBC article is horribly confusing, referring to "Alice Lakwena" and then "Mrs Lakwena", apparently in sheer ignorance that Lakwena is a spirit and Alice was not married to it. (Let's avoid an exploration of the relationship between spirit and medium). Thanks for the notification on my talk page! BanyanTree 03:33, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Has this discussion ended? - BanyanTree 22:01, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I have other issues I find more pressing at the moment. I also understand why you wish to emphasize the distinction between Alice Auma and the Lakwena spirit, which you apparently fear may be blurred in some readers' eyes with a rename. I still feel that it was not plain old Alice Auma who was notable, but the combination, Alice Lakwena. However, since we seem to be the only ones interested in the page name, setting up a contested move is more trouble than it's worth right now for something on my backburner. --Groggy Dice T | C 23:23, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough. I watch this page so will respond when you're ready. - BanyanTree 23:27, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I've given up my watchlist so you can do as you will here. If you do move the article, please rewrite the intro correctly and not start with "Alice Lakwena (1956 – 10 January 2007)...", which is outright wrong and will irk me greatly if and when I wander back. Thanks, BanyanTree 20:52, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
And back after a refreshing period of no-watchlist editing. - BanyanTree 20:56, 18 December 2007 (UTC)