Talk:Ali Pasha Sherif

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This was particularly interesting... Paper on Slavery. World Statesmen has governor's of Syria and here is Saudi Arabia. Not sure if APS's dad is in there or not. Some info on the British Occupation. Muhamed Pasha's family life has a mention at the bottom about Sharif Pasha being the finance minister, probably the same one we're looking for. Battles of 1882This gives the basis of the occupation/protectorate of Egypt. History of Egypt from Ancient Times might have something in it. Ealdgyth | Talk 00:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

An article to look up - "The Conflict of East and West in Egypt. II" John Eliot Bowen Political Science Quarterly, Vol. 1, No. 3 (Sep., 1886), pp. 449-490; a book All the Pasha's Men: Mehmed Ali, His Army and the Making of Modern Egypt by Khaled Fahmy; interesting web site on the Egyptian Royal Family Egyptian Royal Family; al-Tahtawi the son Ali Fahmi MIGHT be our Ali Pasha Sherif, as APS's name when young was supposedly Ali Bey Fahmi; another article to look up "Al-Hakim Cornelius Van Alen Van Dyck (1818-1895)" Lutfi M. Sa'di, George Sarton, W. T. Van Dyck Isis, Vol. 27, No. 1 (May, 1937), pp. 20-45; Jewelry auction blog well, that seems to show he had jewels or something... dang!Ealdgyth | Talk 03:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Way cool. Obviously he had a lot of money from somewhere, most horse breeders also tended to have things like art collections and such. Usually the fortune was diversified. Not that they always could hang onto it. Montanabw^(talk) 04:06, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, of course they couldn't hold on to it, they had horses! Ealdgyth | Talk 04:07, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Calling in the reserves

I can't find APS on any of the wikipedia lists of foreign ministers, nor his father on lists of governors of Syria/Damascus, etc...the naming and title/honorific conventions are confusing and I am not sure what the heck this fellow did besides raise horses. (Had tons of trouble finding real life information on Henry Babson too, and he was an American!) In short, I have run across the various articles on the history of Egypt in this period and it was, to be gracious, chaotic. So, I am dropping off messages asking for help in some of the Ottoman Empire and Egyptian history areas. Hope someone bites. Montanabw^(talk) 05:25, 31 August 2007 (UTC)