Talk:Algernon Swinburne

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I just updated the A. C Swinburne (poet) article; I'm new here and I don't know how to wikify my update, but I hope someone else will. I kept my two or three added paragraphs fairly uncontroversial, but I wish someone would discuss the whole business of updating with me, just a little.

I wrote my doctoral thesis on Swinburne, but who can tell from one's update who an article's writers are, or how much we should trust them?

A student of mine did a prank update last week, just to show me how unreliable MIGHT be an article on Sacajawea I had passed out to the class the day before. I thought the Sacajawea article was the best thing on her I had read, far better than AMERICANA's and a little better than the one in COLLIERS, while being more up to date than either.

My student said her prank posting lasted two days, so there are obviously some very alert people out there; will this posting get them talking to me, or am I still in the wrong place somehow?

-- i was just wondering, where could we find refferences to sadomasochism in Swinburne's poetry?

1) Satia Te Sanguine and Dolores are good places to start. 2) Having said that, Wikipedia talk pages are not a place to ask trivia questions. They are a place to discuss the development of Wikipedia articles. 3) Please sign you comments - what's with this page, and the random jumble of anonymous comments it's attracting? --Yst 16:29, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

Mr. Swinburne comes in for a bit more praise than is fit for an encyclopedia here. I'm not familiar with him to change it myself, but I can tell some things:

"His vocabulary, rhyme and metre arguably make him one of the best poets of the English language;"

"Swinburne may have been one of the first people not to trust anyone over thirty." - Saying that a man living in the 19th-20th centuries was the first man to do anything is a little suspect.

I (independently) had similar sentiments and have revised the article accordingly. If anyone is so motivated the next step would be to break it down into sections.
Remember, as Firesign Theater taught us long ago, "We're all bozos on this bus." Substituting one's "similar sentiments" for a statement that one considers "POV" is not really a step forward. No reader is interested in some Anonymity's opinions concerning Swinburne: a few published quotes concerning Swinburne's place in Eng. Lit. would be more to the point. Sign your posts with four tildes. --Wetman 17:13, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Similar sentiments to the user, not the quotes. Read more carefully next time.

[edit] Trivia

I corrected the reference regarding Kate Chopin's "The Awakening." It is Gouvernail who quotes Swinburne, not Mrs. Highcamp. Narciscizzors 06:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article Title

Would others agree that either Algernon Charles Swinburne or A C Swinburne would be a more appropriate title for this article and thus moving it to one of these (most likely the prior) would be favourable? It strikes me that Swinburne is quite consistently cited under one of these names, and never as "Algernon Swinburne" by those who are familiar with him (perhaps by those who assume that use of first and last names, omitting the middle, is conventional). Cases in point: both the Oxford Encyclopedia of British Literature and the Library of Congress catalogue list him as Algernon Charles Swinburne --Yst 14:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely. This article needs to be moved to "Algernon Charles Swinburne", but "A.C. Swinburne" would be alright too. Do a Google Books search: Algernon Charles Swinburne is how he is known. I will support the move, but I'm not sure how to do it properly. The article also needs a lot of work. Algabal 15:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Indeed, I've gone ahead and moved Algernon Swinburne to Algernon Charles Swinburne straight away, and the former redirect to Algernon Swinburne. Though I don't really think anyone will be looking at Algernon Swinburne in the future, since, as you say, that is not how he is known --Yst 15:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC)