Talk:Alfred Stieglitz

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"Stieglitz was a great philanthropist and sympathiser with his fellow human beings. He once received a phone call on one of Adams' visits. A man wanted to show Stieglitz some work. He invited him over, looked at the prints, looked at the man in a rather disheveled state of affairs, looked at the work again. He then offered to buy the paintings and gave him a ten dollar bill, told him to get something warm to eat, get cleaned up, and come back so that they could iron out the details. The look in the man's eyes could have been an eternal testament to the kindness that was Alfred Stieglitz."

This passage is awful- not only biased and unverifiable but badly written. Source for this anecdote is also unacknowledged. Any suggestions? Personally, I would delete the whole passage.

I believe the description comes from Ansel Adam's autobiography, however it is not quite as I recall Adams putting it: Stieglitz asked Adams to attend that day, it seemed to me he wanted Adams to bear witness to an act of largesse, which made the whole thing seem phoney to me. Samatarou (talk) 03:08, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

"Stieglitz's stopped taking photographs in 1937 due to heart disease. Over the last ten years of his life, he summered at Lake George, New York and worked in a shed he had converted into a darkroom and wintered with O'Keeffe in Manhattan. He died in 1946 at 82, still a staunch supporter of O'Keeffe and she of him."

The last sentence in this paragraph is particularly bad too- a huge over-simplification of a complex relationship, unacknowledged source and certainly not impartial.

Pest247 23:35, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

"He announced that every published image would be a picture, not a photograph—a statement that allowed Stieglitz to determine which was which by his scientific method."

This sentence doesn't make any sense at all, to the extent that I don't even know how to fix it. I might delete it.

It means that not all photographs have artistic merit and are worthy of being published in a journal.

Jwucd (talk)11/25/2007 I agree. This article has serious tone and bias problems. E.g., the paragraph ending with "The look in the man's eyes could have been an eternal testament to the kindness that was Alfred Stieglitz." This is embarrassing. It adds nothing to an encyclopedia biography to include some unknown person's unproven judgments about the subject's inner character and worth as a human being. This is the sort of thing that gives Wikipedia a bad name.

Wikipedia is not an obituary or eulogy. Stieglitz may have been second to none as a person, but if it can't be presented in a neutral way, it shouldn't be in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwucd (talk • contribs) 06:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree, I think the article needs a total rewrite, the whole thing reads very oddly. For instance, the remark that Stieglitz had an infatuation with younger women - yet there is no corroborating information, not even the age of the wife mentioned in the same sentence. Samatarou (talk) 03:08, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

In 1910 it was the Albright Art Gallery. Didn't become Albright-Knox Art Gallery until about 50 years later. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.194.0 (talk) 17:01, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Images

As I believe the portion of his work published in the United States before 1923 is PD-US copyright status, perhaps an exaple or two of his better early work might be good to add to the article? -- Infrogmation 20:04, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fountain

The photo of Duchamp's Fountain doesn't seem at all representative of Stieglitz's art. >>sparkit|TALK<< 21:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree this photo is not representative. Since I discovered that a copy of The Steerage and an O'Keefe portrait were available to us, I made the change. The Fountain could also be added back if anyone feels strongly about it. I removed it because I think the page would look too crowded. SteveHopson 21:25, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Seems a good choice to me. See also my note above. -- Infrogmation 23:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)