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[edit] Esoteric references

Apart from the last bit about bloodlines, the whole "western estoric" section is without references, which I've tagged. The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail will not be acceptable as a reliable source for this supposedly historical information, as it is pseudohistory. Is there another source? Ryan Paddy (talk) 21:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Anyone familiar with The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail knows that the elements of the book which are pseudohistorical are mostly the ones that deal with their speculation about the pre-1956 Priory of Sion and the Jesus bloodline. That being said, I am in the process of searching for reliable sources for the historical information regarding René of Anjou and the theme of Arcadia. --Loremaster (talk) 21:42, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
If the material is accepted by mainstream historians then you won't have any trouble finding reliable sources for it. However, it still seems very backwards to me to write a section that paraphrases a dodgy source without making the source of the material explicit, and then go looking for other sources to back it up. Why not just flag the whole section as questionable material specifically from that questionable source? Also, the size of the section seems out of proportion with the material on the actual river. Ryan Paddy (talk) 22:47, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Because I have read the historical information regarding René of Anjou and the theme of Arcadia in several reliable sources over the years so I know that the authors of The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail were not simply making stuff up. I simply need the time to find those sources. As for the size of that section, I think its normal that it would seem out of proportion with the actual river since there isn't much that can be said about a river... --Loremaster (talk) 22:58, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I've edited the section to make it clear that it is all, at present, sourced from The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail. I've also edited it down to just what's relevant to the river. Ryan Paddy (talk) 23:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Perfect. --Loremaster (talk) 00:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)