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[edit] Unique?

(in regards to the singing style one par"This management of good-versus-evil style of music and writing is unique to the band."

no not really many bands have soft vocals and "explosive screaming" in sequence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.186.2 (talk) 19:17, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Band Member Names

According to Alexisonfire's website it says that George's last name is Logan not Petitt, and that Wade's last name is Preston not Macneil. Any clarifications on this? Thanks, King Bigos

With regards to their surnames - George's is Pettit and Wade's is MacNeil - the ones they have on their website are simply homages to the Bill & Ted films (Ted "Theodore" Logan and Bill S. Preston Esq.) If you watch the video for Hey It's Your Funeral Mama, George is showing the other Georges how to sign his name, look closely on the flip chart, at the top, "Pettit" is written with a big tick next to it and "Logan" is written but crossed out. I've got a screen shot of it, where you can just about make it out: Screenshot here Jubella
Whoa.. haha you really went the extra mile on this one.. jerkmonkee 04:21, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
now no one can argue with me! lol Jubella 10:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for clearing that up ---- King Bigos

[edit] George on Video On Trial

I removed the following from the videography section:

"George Pettit appeared in two or three episodes of the Much Music programming"

I did this for a few reasons:

  • it should probably go into George's article.. leading to my next point..
  • it doesn't belong in the videography section
  • it isn't that significant, alexisonfire has done many shows with Much Music, an example being with Ed the Sock
  • "two or three episodes".. we want this to maybe someday be a good, or even featured article.. that just doesn't cut it

respectfully, jerkmonkee 15:12, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Switcheroo Series Album Name

There has been a lot of various names for this album posted, including "The Switcheroo Series: Moneen vs. Alexis", "The Switcheroo Series: Alexisonfire vs. Moneen", and more recently "The Switcheroo Series: Burning Down The Pine Room". I have no idea where the Pine Room one is comming from; first, it says nothing about pine anything on the album, second this is the first in a series of "Switcheroo" albums from their label, and third the actual website listed it as "The Switcheroo Series: Alexisonfire vs. Moneen", or sometimes like on iTunes, its listed as simply "Switcheroo".

My point is where is this burning down the pineroom whatever the hell come from, and why do you think that is the name of the album??

respectfully, jerkmonkee 03:45, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

The pineroom could be the studio where the album was recorded in.
With regards, King Bigos
I believe that "Burning Down The Pine Room" is the subtitle that the EP was released in the UK under. Cheers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.48.243.189 (talk • contribs).
We should go with The Switcheroo Series: Alexisonfire vs. Moneen for now, that is the title of the article. I will do an investigation to further confirm it. -- Reaper X 07:24, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
When you upload the disk to your hard drive, it reads as "Burning Down the Pine Room", even in the Canadian version. I don't know about the US version, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.5.200.68 (talk) 17:06, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Added Band Template

Thats the thing that ties all the related Alexsiofire Pages together at the bottom. I also added them to all the related Alexsiofire pages. The reason that I'm mentioning this is because it might be confusing for anyone trying to edit it, its on a seperate page Here. If you want to add it to any other pages, simply add, without the quotes, "{{Alexisonfire}}" to it.

jerkmonkee 03:38, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Genre

Indie? How can they be indie if they're on Atticus? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.12.134.248 (talk • contribs). 12:51, June 12, 2005

They're not 'on' Atticus. They're signed to Equal Vision records in America, Distort Entertainment in Canada and Sore Point Records in Europe. All 3 of these labels = independent record labels therefore they are classed as 'indie' Jubella 18:52, June 22, 2005
Are they metalcore? Their album pages say they are hardcore punk, and from what I've heard they don't sound like metalcore at all. I m arch 13:29, 31 October 2005 (UTC)Arch
They're not metalcore, they are Post-Hardcore. But discussion of the self title to actually be Screamo. -Davepwnt 21:35, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Yeah they are Post-Hardcore (Socialismo01 20:27, 4 December 2006 (UTC))

Let's leave it at that. Post-hardcore, nothing more. The more general we stay on genre, the less edit warring we will have. -- Reaper X 22:43, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

metalcore and post hardcore are the best descriptions —Preceding unsigned comment added by AustinGOLDENEYE (talk • contribs) 20:30, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Your say is not rule. We establish things here through consensus. Theres only a little consensus for post-hardcore right now. -- Reaper X 20:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

no their selftitle isn't what wiki calls screamo, its closer to mathcore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.193.226.17 (talk) 04:50, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alexis Fire

I am going to remove the link because its a link to a stripper's website, and i dont really think thats appropriate content for everyone who uses the Wikipedia.--Windsamurai 19:04, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia is NOT censored. SnaX 00:19, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Why is there a link to the "non" website? I am removing it because it has no relevance. --Zippanova 17:38, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
It's the website they were named after - I think it has a lot of relevance
I deleted a link to Alexis Fire's website on the page. So I simply ask:
Don't put links to Alexis Fire's website in the article, seeing as it is porn. King Bigos
There should be some reference to her site since that's what they were named after. There doesn't have to be an actual clickable link, just have it written there. If people choose to look at it, so be it. I'm sure it's been done a million times before. Or you could put a link and then put a warning, I just think it should be there considering that's the band name's origin Jubella 08:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Where they got the name from should be noted, but if someone desires to go to the page that much, then they can simply do a Google search. --robz0r 08:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)


The band's real site is www.theonlybandever.com (Socialismo01 20:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Peacock terms

A tag was added stating that this article may be compromised by peacock terms. I scanned the article, and failed to see anything like "one of the best...", "the most influential...", "a significant...", "intriguingly...", or anything like that. Perhaps I did not look hard enough. If anyone can point out any peacock terms, go for it, and remove them. If I fail to see any more evidence of it, I will remove the tag. -- Reaper X 21:37, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Crisis Torrent

In mid-July, a torrent of the yet to be released Crisis album was available on the internet from various BitTorrent sites over a month before the UK release date, which is set on August 21, 2006.

Okay, I'll mention it on the Crisis page. -- Reaper X 17:46, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About the release of Alexisonfire's new album: Crisis

On limited edition cds. They include a usb drive which has contents the live performances of "Accidents" and "Mailbox Arson" (performed @ Scene Music Festival, St. Catherines), the making of the videoes "Passing of America" and "This could be Anywhere"(Muchmusic's On Set of "This could be Anywhere") and a video of photos while they were in Europe with the Audio of a new song "Thorns". There is also a extra song on the usb drive called, "My God is a Reasonable Man". —Preceding unsigned comment added by ShadowSlave (talk • contribs)

Again, I'll mention it on the Crisis page. -- Reaper X 04:19, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Videography

I gave the videography its own article. In that article, all the information in the former "Direction" subsection on the main article is redistributed under each respective music video. The old "direction" section didn't actually have much to do with direction anyway. It was more like a short synopsis for most of the videos. Pardon me for not discussing it. I'm reverting the edit back now, assuming there's no objections. --EndlessVince 20:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, thanks alot for letting us know. -- Reaper X 22:34, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Magazine Covers

Well wikipedia wont let us put magazine covers on pages unless it is the magazine's actual page so voila - Chart (magazine) + Eye weekly + The Coast - I intend to take over the world - well wikipedia with my Alexisonfire covers - I will keep you informed of any more i manage to sneak in!!! --Sharonlees 11:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template SNAFU

Hey guys. I recently modified the bands template. Aloing with including Jesse Ingelevics, I replaced · with |, and Side projects and labels under the heading "Related content. Give me hell for messing with a good thing, but now this related content section is all bolded for some reason, and I cannot figure out why. Can someone see if they can fix it? -- Reaper X 23:30, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. Don't ask how. -- Reaper X 23:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reuploaded Infobox image

Alright I reuploaded the infobox image with all the proper fair use and the photographer blabla.. its from the press section of the band's label's website, it was meant to be used like this, there is no copyright infringement and so on.. if you remove it, i will jump you..

love jerkmonkee 15:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Steele Backing Vocals

Since I've never known Chris Steele to provide any sort of vocals for the band, and the fact that Wade had no mention of the vocals he performs for the band beside his name, I removed "vocals" from Steele and added them to Wade. --Paddled 03:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dallas Green side project, City and Colour, up for deletion

Opinions needed-see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/City_and_Colour.
Seraphim Whipp 18:31, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Result was keep.
Seraphim Whipp 22:05, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bergenfield Four

Where can you hear them?


Lowdown records myspace


i could also release a torrent, i got the 7" and recorded it to my pc 192kbs mp3's its awesome

[edit] Mistake

Thought I'd just drop a comment here; I made a mistake in what I thought was a correction, with the band members link for Dallas Green. D'oh! It was a stupid mistake so I'm glad someone fixed it :-)

Seraphim Whipp 00:56, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Alexisonfirelogo.png

Image:Alexisonfirelogo.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 18:59, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category

I have created Category:Alexisonfire. Any articles directly relating to AOF should be placed in this category. Cheers. -- Reaper X 19:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Also be aware of the subcategories Alexisonfire albums and Alexisonfire songs. -- Reaper X 02:43, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mainstream era

It appears that the Mainstream era section has a "This article or section may contain original research or unverified claims." banner on it. When I wrote that section I was very tired, and upon re-reading it, the claim seems to be true, and so suggestions to what the two sentances in question should be changed to would be greatly apricated.

The two sentances that a apear to be inacurate are:

  • Crisis itself was a step away from their underground and more progressive rock/post-hardcore roots into a more popular and "radio friendly" style.
  • With their change of musical style, the band also changed their style of video from a more underground style using the director Marc Ricciardelli, to a more mainstream approach.

The reason I originally wrote these was that it seemed to be general idea between fans, and thus cannot be proved as fact. --Yz rules 09:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, those are exactly the problematic sentences I saw. I cut alot of the other stuff out like:
    • "Others however (particularly new fans of the band and the band's area of music) believe Crisis to be their best album so far."; and
    • "For example, the first video from Crisis, This Could Be Anywhere In The World consists of the band playing with some special effects whereas their previous videos were very stylised and had stories, styles and humour, such as the video for Hey, It's You Funeral Mama (from the album Watch Out!) which sees the band 'auditioning' replacements for themselves so as to avoid touring the world."
This is very original research that could never be cited, and it was not very encyclopedic. But the two sentences you mentioned were left behind because I felt that maybe you could find a source for them in some review commentary. "General ideas between fans" do not belong here, this is an encyclopedia. But don't be discouraged Yz, I applaud your efforts to expand this article. Just be aware that what you write should be encyclopedic, and not from a fan's perspective. Keep it up! Cheers. -- Reaper X 02:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Videography → Discography

I'm not sure why I'm bothering discussing this, I have little hope I'll get any responses...but there's some there.
I think the discography section is way too long to include in the main article. I think we should move Alexisonfire Videography to Alexisonfire discography and put most of that stuff there. Thoughts? -- Reaper X 06:01, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Former Members

"george is engaged to a girl named sarah"

I don't think this would fit under former members, and if anything it would go on George Petit's page. Any sources for this? Please fix. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.67.72.13 (talk • contribs) 22:54, 9 November 2007

[edit] Some stuff

Okay, a couple things here. Firstly, I went to an Alexisonfire concert last night and got some decent pics on my girlfriend's camera. We just need to figure out a way to get them off of there, I will upload them to Commons under a Creative Commons licence ASAP, and then integrate a couple here.
Secondly, I have never heard of this Jake Touzel guy, and I found nothing linking him and Alexisonfire in a Google search, so I have removed that until someone can provide a citation.
Thirdly, I am going to try and find time to improve and expand this article once I have some priorities in real life taken care of (ie. schoolwork, applying for university etc.). This will call for all claims to be cited, which means more sources, and major addition/removal of items. So if you can find anything or know of anything that could add to the article, either be bold and add it, add it to the to-do list, or leave a message on my talk page.
Cheers. -- Reaper X 04:20, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox image

I have reverted the addition of this image to the infobox because it violates WP:NONFREE. #1 states no free equivalent must exist, and there is: see Image:Alexisonfire live.JPG, and my note above about more images on the way. Secondly, 10a and 10c state it must have "Attribution of the source of the material", and "a separate fair-use rationale for each use of the item" must be provided, respectively. I know it looks nice, but Wikipedia must strive to be a FREE encyclopedia. Cheers. -- Reaper X 19:25, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

But it's a POSTER. Available to the public. It's a poster and if anything, this should be the band's photo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabriel Surette (talk • contribs) 20:55, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Just because it is available to the public does not mean that it is in the public domain in terms of copyright law. Someone almost certainly holds a copyright to that poster, probably the photographer or possibly the record company. Wikipedia:Non-free content#Unacceptable images is clear about this—for a photograph of people, let's try to find better photo that has been released into the public domain. --Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 21:29, 16 December 2007 (UTC)