Talk:Alexis I of Russia

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This should be at Alexei/Alexey or Alexis. He is not well known as "Aleksey" in English. john k 16:05, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Should he be numbered - I can't find a Tsar Alexis II, so shouldn't he just be Alexis? 172.202.230.150 01:45, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Of course he is Tsar Alexis in every reputable source, e.g., Encyclopedia Britannica. I tried to eliminate the numbering but was reverted. --Ghirla | talk 11:17, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Flowery POV passage

The following passage struck me as too flowery and partial for an encyclopaedia. For it to stay in, in my opinion, it needs specific citation from a historian (did this Sergey Platonov say all this?) and, preferably, to be put in quotations, because it is emotional rather than factual. Any opinions?

But it is sufficient for Sergey Platonov to proclaim him the most attractive of Russian monarchs. He acquired the moniker Tishayshy, which means "most quiet" or "most peaceful". Certain aspects of Russian Orthodoxy, not its most purely spiritual, but its aesthetic and worldly aspects, found in him their most complete expression. The essence of Alexei's personality is a certain spiritual Epicureanism, manifested in an optimistic Christian faith, in a profound, but unfanatical, attachment to the traditions and ritual of the Church, in a desire to see everyone round him happy and at peace, and in a highly developed capacity to extract a quiet and mellow enjoyment from all things.

--qp10qp 15:29, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

It is a direct quote from D.S. Mirsky who analyzes Alexis's letters in his History of Russian Literature. He is indeed known as Tishayshy in Russian historiography, so this sentence should stay. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 10:22, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

It certainly sounded like a direct quote, but that's the trouble: it's presented as part of the text, in which case it merely seems a random contradiction of what went before about the tsar's wars and comes over as unencyclopaedically sentimental. If you have access to the source, could you possibly put it in quotes and give an inline reference? If not, I will reframe the passage as a paraphrase and broadly ascribe it to the historian you mention.qp10qp 12:50, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

D.S. Mirsky. A History of Russian Literature. Northwestern University Press, 1999. ISBN 0-8101-1679-0. Page 27. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 13:39, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Cheers. I've gone ahead and put the paragraph in quotes. Please correct me if I've put too much in. qp10qp 00:01, 31 October 2006 (UTC)